I simply no longer believe anyone who merely claims to know things. If you know something big, disseminate it immediately via social media. Publicize everything, right now, with no conditions or timeframe. If you try to do it any other way, I’m going to assume you’re full of shit. No one gets blind trust anymore.
Well it’s totally understandable why someone would not want to come forward with info like they have. But either tell us if you’re brave enough or don’t. Don’t tease us
Yeah, why don't they just publicly accuse extremely powerful people, who raped children and are blackmailed by even more powerful intelligence agencies, without having any actual evidence. What could possibly go wrong?
Then why hold a press conference where they all threaten to maybe make a list and maybe release it, maybe not? What the fuck was the point?
Do you think the powerful people are thinking, "ok, well I know I could have that peasant taken care of, but since they didn't actually say my name I guess I'll leave them alone. They're only threatening to release a list that might include my name so it's all good."
Then why hold a press conference where they all threaten to maybe make a list and maybe release it, maybe not? What the fuck was the point?
Put pressure on the government to release the files.
Do you think the powerful people are thinking, "ok, well I know I could have that peasant taken care of, but since they didn't actually say my name I guess I'll leave them alone. They're only threatening to release a list that might include my name so it's all good."
Yes. We're not living in the 90s anymore when the elites could simply kill more than two dozen witnesses and investigators of the Dutroux case and sweep the entire thing under the rug.
Put pressure on the government to release the files.
Oh yeah, Thune, Johnson, and Bondi are really sweating now. They'll capitulate any day, I'm sure.
Yes. We're not living in the 90s anymore when the elites could simply kill more than two dozen witnesses and investigators of the Dutroux case and sweep the entire thing under the rug.
Ok, so the fears of them all being murdered is bullshit? So they could just safely say some names? Why not put even more pressure on the government to release the files by giving us some specifics?
Dude, stop being a lobotomized retard and learn to read.
Witnesses that don't actually make a statement are not a threat. Witnesses that do make a statement are a threat. It's a matter of risk assessment. If they think you'll talk, they'll make sure you won't. If they don't think you'll talk, they leave you alone.
Oh yeah, Thune, Johnson, and Bondi are really sweating now. They'll capitulate any day, I'm sure.
Yeah, I understood that you don't actually care about the Epstein matter getting resolved. You'd rather see it buried.
Because they are literally allowing more children to get raped by the same people who raped them, and there's been no accountability so far.
By contrast: Boudicca was a member of a Celtic noble family who was allied to Rome when something went terribly wrong. The Romans demanded further tribute, and also murdered her husband, and beat and tortured her and her 2 daughters, in front of her and her whole village.
She, arguably reasonably, responded by leading an anti-roman revolt, burned Londinum to the ground, sacked multiple roman forces and killed tens of thousands of people.
If the rapists are being allowed to continue to rape and pillage, it is appropriate to spread a little fear among them. This would be done by naming names, and I'm getting sick and tired of pretending that were helping the victims by naming neither victim nor attacker.
Because they are literally allowing more children to get raped by the same people who raped them, and there's been no accountability so far.
They have no way to prove it. They can release any name they want and the only thing that'll happen is that they get sued into oblivion for defamation while they continue on raping kids.
If the rapists are being allowed to continue to rape and pillage, it is appropriate to spread a little fear among them. This would be done by naming names, and I'm getting sick and tired of pretending that were helping the victims by naming neither victim nor attacker.
And that's why they want the government to release the files. Because the alternative is that nothing will happen.
No way to prove it? Bro, these are the victims. You think they can't recognize the guys that were literally on top of them?
They want the files to be released, then they need to start making public accusations of the men involved, and the ongoing rapes that continue on the island. Nothing is already happening.
No way to prove it? Bro, these are the victims. You think they can't recognize the guys that were literally on top of them?
Are you seriously suggesting that a mere accusation with no hard evidence whatsoever is enough for a conviction? Especially when it involves high-profile, highly influential and extremely wealthy people?
In what fucking reality are you living?
Nothing is already happening.
Yeah. No shit, nigga. And sucking off Trump and burying this entire situation so deep that you can't find it anymore is not going to help.
No, I'm saying the accusation will be enough to keep up public pressure into actually doing something, or actually defaming them enough to damage them with any form of accountability.
No, I'm saying the accusation will be enough to keep up public pressure into actually doing something, or actually defaming them enough to damage them with any form of accountability.
And will likely utterly destroy or even end the accusers and their families life in the process.
'Any form of accountability' will only come from a (figuratively) mob with pitchfork and torches that forces the government to release the files and punish the perpetrators with a vengeance. Nothing else.
Nobody wants to disappear forever, even though it's clear that this doesn't get solved without a lot of victims dying gruesome deaths at the hands of the CIA/Mossad/MI6/5 unfortunately.
Yeah, so instead they just publicly threaten to accuse extremely powerful people, who raped children and are blackmailed by even more powerful intelligence agencies, without having any actual evidence. What could possibly go wrong?
Nothing. They can't get sued by anyone for defamation and they won't get killed by anyone because it would just put this entire situation into the spotlight once again which the perpetrators would rather avoid.
What perpetrators? Who would rather avoid, what are their names?
So what are you saying? Epstein was just some innocent guy and nothing happened on his island? Us not knowing who he was providing his sex trafficking services to is precisely the issue.
nobody knows who to suspect
The government knows. Because it's them. And they're trying to bury the matter.
We know that Bill Clinton was a frequent visitor to Epsteins island. What happened? Nothing. We know that Prince Andrew was a client of Epsteins. What happened? Pretty much nothing.
So don't act like you would grab your gun and go after Epsteins clients based on a mere accusation without any corroborating evidence.
Read up on the Dutroux case of the 90s in Belgium. Witnesses came forward. Investigators actually tried to solve the case. What followed were two dozen 'suicides' and 'accidents'. And Dutroux who supposedly never supplied anyone any kids, just like Epstein, got out of prison in 2019.
So what are you saying? Epstein was just some innocent guy
Yes, that's clearly exactly what I was saying. Are you a fucking liar or fucking retarded?
I'm not going to bother wasting my time responding to liars or retards. My previous point stands- they're at greater risk making vague threats about releasing names as opposed to actually just naming names because if they publicly said the names the accused would be implicated in their deaths. Nothing you've said contradicts that.
if they publicly said the names the accused would be implicated in their deaths
What do you expect would happen then? Who would prosecute them? The government and justice system that already refused to do anything since the beginning? Trump who pretends that Epstein is actually just a hoax? Or do you think if someone came out and said Bill Clinton raped me people would actually rebel?
What will happen if alleged victims start accusing people publicly is that they will get sued into oblivion for defamation as there is no justice system that actually wants to investigate the matter. So there would be really no need to kill anyone just yet as the government is in possession of the evidence and keeps it under lock and key. And if there's actually a part of the justice system that tries to investigate it'll look like Belgium during the Dutroux case. Witnesses and investigators will commit suicide and die in accidents one after the other.
What the press conference did is at least keep the Epstein matter in public view for a little while longer.
Yeah, I'm not sure what the truth is with this Thomas Massie press conference nothingburger.
But Viva Frei (David Freiheit) is a Canadian Jew.
He also inexplicably ran interference for lolcow lawyer Nick Rekieta & propagated his bullshit narcissistic alibis that corrupt cops & judges in his county had planted cocaine in his house in a smear job because of his political views.
This was after Nick did cocaine on stream, bragged about driving his kids to their homeschool co-op drunk & high out of his mind on the regular in his Mustang at dawn without sleeping, had his mistress sit in a corner while streaming & giving him BJs while his wife & 5 children slept in their beds upstairs, had one of his elementary school age daughters test positive for cocaine & had his children seized for months by CAS, ran a polyamorous quadruple in his marital bed in front of his children for months while doing cocaine all day, neglecting his children so badly that they had to ask his fuckboi to cook them SpaghettiOs, lost his law license because his pastor & in-laws filed reports to the local cops over his 5 kids safety living in a filthy den of sin, etc.
And no matter how much degenerate shit came out about this cokehead narcissist father, Viva just kept on sweeping for him & promoted his delulu legal takes about a county conspiracy against him.
At this point the entire Epstein thing is just a vehicle for Never Trump retards, pathological anti-Israel freaks, and #MeToo women hiding behind a legitimate problem.
I simply no longer believe anyone who merely claims to know things. If you know something big, disseminate it immediately via social media. Publicize everything, right now, with no conditions or timeframe. If you try to do it any other way, I’m going to assume you’re full of shit. No one gets blind trust anymore.
Or they'll kill themselves with two shots to the back of a head chopped up in a bag that fell out of a plane.
Well it’s totally understandable why someone would not want to come forward with info like they have. But either tell us if you’re brave enough or don’t. Don’t tease us
Yeah, why don't they just publicly accuse extremely powerful people, who raped children and are blackmailed by even more powerful intelligence agencies, without having any actual evidence. What could possibly go wrong?
Then why hold a press conference where they all threaten to maybe make a list and maybe release it, maybe not? What the fuck was the point?
Do you think the powerful people are thinking, "ok, well I know I could have that peasant taken care of, but since they didn't actually say my name I guess I'll leave them alone. They're only threatening to release a list that might include my name so it's all good."
"Kill us now or we'll say something!"
Seems retarded
Put pressure on the government to release the files.
Yes. We're not living in the 90s anymore when the elites could simply kill more than two dozen witnesses and investigators of the Dutroux case and sweep the entire thing under the rug.
Oh yeah, Thune, Johnson, and Bondi are really sweating now. They'll capitulate any day, I'm sure.
Ok, so the fears of them all being murdered is bullshit? So they could just safely say some names? Why not put even more pressure on the government to release the files by giving us some specifics?
Dude, stop being a lobotomized retard and learn to read.
Witnesses that don't actually make a statement are not a threat. Witnesses that do make a statement are a threat. It's a matter of risk assessment. If they think you'll talk, they'll make sure you won't. If they don't think you'll talk, they leave you alone.
Yeah, I understood that you don't actually care about the Epstein matter getting resolved. You'd rather see it buried.
Oh fuck off.
Because they are literally allowing more children to get raped by the same people who raped them, and there's been no accountability so far.
By contrast: Boudicca was a member of a Celtic noble family who was allied to Rome when something went terribly wrong. The Romans demanded further tribute, and also murdered her husband, and beat and tortured her and her 2 daughters, in front of her and her whole village.
She, arguably reasonably, responded by leading an anti-roman revolt, burned Londinum to the ground, sacked multiple roman forces and killed tens of thousands of people.
If the rapists are being allowed to continue to rape and pillage, it is appropriate to spread a little fear among them. This would be done by naming names, and I'm getting sick and tired of pretending that were helping the victims by naming neither victim nor attacker.
They have no way to prove it. They can release any name they want and the only thing that'll happen is that they get sued into oblivion for defamation while they continue on raping kids.
And that's why they want the government to release the files. Because the alternative is that nothing will happen.
No way to prove it? Bro, these are the victims. You think they can't recognize the guys that were literally on top of them?
They want the files to be released, then they need to start making public accusations of the men involved, and the ongoing rapes that continue on the island. Nothing is already happening.
Are you seriously suggesting that a mere accusation with no hard evidence whatsoever is enough for a conviction? Especially when it involves high-profile, highly influential and extremely wealthy people?
In what fucking reality are you living?
Yeah. No shit, nigga. And sucking off Trump and burying this entire situation so deep that you can't find it anymore is not going to help.
No, I'm saying the accusation will be enough to keep up public pressure into actually doing something, or actually defaming them enough to damage them with any form of accountability.
Making public accusations isn't burying it.
And will likely utterly destroy or even end the accusers and their families life in the process.
'Any form of accountability' will only come from a (figuratively) mob with pitchfork and torches that forces the government to release the files and punish the perpetrators with a vengeance. Nothing else.
Nobody wants to disappear forever, even though it's clear that this doesn't get solved without a lot of victims dying gruesome deaths at the hands of the CIA/Mossad/MI6/5 unfortunately.
The only way for this to get solved is an extremely angry mob with pitchforks and torches.
Tbf that would solve a lot of problems around the globe right now
Yeah. That's why he have 'democracy' to stop that from happening.
Yeah, so instead they just publicly threaten to accuse extremely powerful people, who raped children and are blackmailed by even more powerful intelligence agencies, without having any actual evidence. What could possibly go wrong?
Nothing. They can't get sued by anyone for defamation and they won't get killed by anyone because it would just put this entire situation into the spotlight once again which the perpetrators would rather avoid.
What perpetrators? Who would rather avoid, what are their names?
These bitches didn't say so they can be killed at will because nobody knows who to suspect had them killed SINCE THEY DIDN'T SAY SHIT.
So what are you saying? Epstein was just some innocent guy and nothing happened on his island? Us not knowing who he was providing his sex trafficking services to is precisely the issue.
The government knows. Because it's them. And they're trying to bury the matter.
We know that Bill Clinton was a frequent visitor to Epsteins island. What happened? Nothing. We know that Prince Andrew was a client of Epsteins. What happened? Pretty much nothing.
So don't act like you would grab your gun and go after Epsteins clients based on a mere accusation without any corroborating evidence.
Read up on the Dutroux case of the 90s in Belgium. Witnesses came forward. Investigators actually tried to solve the case. What followed were two dozen 'suicides' and 'accidents'. And Dutroux who supposedly never supplied anyone any kids, just like Epstein, got out of prison in 2019.
Yes, that's clearly exactly what I was saying. Are you a fucking liar or fucking retarded?
I'm not going to bother wasting my time responding to liars or retards. My previous point stands- they're at greater risk making vague threats about releasing names as opposed to actually just naming names because if they publicly said the names the accused would be implicated in their deaths. Nothing you've said contradicts that.
What do you expect would happen then? Who would prosecute them? The government and justice system that already refused to do anything since the beginning? Trump who pretends that Epstein is actually just a hoax? Or do you think if someone came out and said Bill Clinton raped me people would actually rebel?
What will happen if alleged victims start accusing people publicly is that they will get sued into oblivion for defamation as there is no justice system that actually wants to investigate the matter. So there would be really no need to kill anyone just yet as the government is in possession of the evidence and keeps it under lock and key. And if there's actually a part of the justice system that tries to investigate it'll look like Belgium during the Dutroux case. Witnesses and investigators will commit suicide and die in accidents one after the other.
What the press conference did is at least keep the Epstein matter in public view for a little while longer.
It's because they are not victims, just claiming they are.
Again, I identify as an Epstein victim and Democrats have fucked me over. 😕
Why would you quote this obvious Israeli plant? lol
Yeah, I'm not sure what the truth is with this Thomas Massie press conference nothingburger.
But Viva Frei (David Freiheit) is a Canadian Jew.
He also inexplicably ran interference for lolcow lawyer Nick Rekieta & propagated his bullshit narcissistic alibis that corrupt cops & judges in his county had planted cocaine in his house in a smear job because of his political views.
This was after Nick did cocaine on stream, bragged about driving his kids to their homeschool co-op drunk & high out of his mind on the regular in his Mustang at dawn without sleeping, had his mistress sit in a corner while streaming & giving him BJs while his wife & 5 children slept in their beds upstairs, had one of his elementary school age daughters test positive for cocaine & had his children seized for months by CAS, ran a polyamorous quadruple in his marital bed in front of his children for months while doing cocaine all day, neglecting his children so badly that they had to ask his fuckboi to cook them SpaghettiOs, lost his law license because his pastor & in-laws filed reports to the local cops over his 5 kids safety living in a filthy den of sin, etc.
And no matter how much degenerate shit came out about this cokehead narcissist father, Viva just kept on sweeping for him & promoted his delulu legal takes about a county conspiracy against him.
Every single time...
If you put out a nation wide call for "victims of ____" to come forward, you're going to get 10,000 crazy people.
At this point the entire Epstein thing is just a vehicle for Never Trump retards, pathological anti-Israel freaks, and #MeToo women hiding behind a legitimate problem.
Oh, is it? Easy way to stop that. Release the files.