The content is also getting worse as creators are put into smaller and smaller boxes. Additionally the commentary, which is arguably more useful that the oc, is severely limited and affects peoples use.
Its inevitable that a lot of users will abandon YouTube steadily because it fails to provide access and use to the topics we are interested in. And its not political stuff, like you have gamers, health stuff, and normie stuff that's being limited so bad people can't use YouTube. Look at how frustrating it is to use reddit with all the rules and insta removals.
I was amazed how some of the broccoli boy Gen Z & alpha types had never even HEARD of Rumble.
With the latest YT censorship push, the algo has pushed some "YT alternative" videos into my feed. Some teens were building & pushing their own competitor builds. In the comments, when people asked about Rumble, they literally said "Never heard of them, I'll check them out".
A lot of normies bothered by the latest YT data mining push also have a visceral hate for Rumble. As in, they bitch about YT being Skynet, but then when suggested to use Rumble, they recoil "Ew, Trumpers & Nazis" and keeping on bitching.
I watched an interesting video from a smaller YT creator a few months back (don't remember who, doesn't really matter) who deleted all their alt media channels and tried to force his small following back on to YT.
They made a long video explaining their rationale. While I didn't agree with it, it was an interesting devil's advocate.
Other than the usual arguments (zero discoverability, more workload to mirror uploads, remembering logins to check multiplatform comments, zero monetization incentive on alt tech, etc), their argument mostly boiled down that if you only have a small audience, it's better to consolidate the community in one place rather than scattering them to the wind as a diaspora across platforms with minimum engagement with each other or the creator directly.
Again, I didn't fully agree, but it was a compelling counternarrative than usual.
There’s the ultimate problem. We accepted the idea of YouTube as a platform. It doesn’t have to be that way. You could have your own website, post your videos to all video hosting services (including YouTube) and engage with your supporters only through your website.
I think it's similar to how the big monopoly sites like X, Reddit & YT have conditioned people to stay within their walled gardens. And killed off all the old Internet forums.
Pretty much any effort I've seen to get fans off Big Tech & on to personal websites have failed. I'm guilty of it myself.
Eh not really. Especially given how often platforms ban people for nothing. My Facebook was banned and I used it to buy things off marketplace and I think I have a picture of my dog I posted. I couldn't get it back.
There's a whole subreddit called banned by Facebook or something iirc, that's a bunch of Normies panicking because gaybook deleted their account cause they can.
Yeah I’ve been thinking about it, I actually have a raspi that I bought for this purpose sitting in my closet. Just haven’t had the chance to set it up yet
Supposedly it's only for accounts that an AI tool deems are underage simply by judging their viewing patterns.
The areas of concern are that adults that falsely get the Scarlet Letter have to link ID or credit cards to their YT accounts to get out of Google daycare.
YouTube will fail like a triple AAA game studio fails. They rely on being big and already having an audience and they forget they actually have to provide good service or their audience leaves.
Yep and there are other video platforms that have good streaming and comment sections. Its just about building a userbase which will happen as content is banned from YouTube and they migrate to other places.
Rather than just not using the platform, alternatives should be used instead. That way YouTube gets hit twice, once by removing users and twice by supporting competitors. A boycott doesn't have to kill YouTube to be successful either, it just needs to move enough of the content to alternatives that people who value their freedom no longer need to use YouTube.
I've hardly been using YouTube since 2020 because LBRY/Odysee has almost everything I want, plus there's Bitchute, Rumble and others. If I do have to access a YouTube video once in a while I use Invidious or NewPipe.
This has very Reddit energy.
If you really want to hurt Youtube just use Bitchute or any other alternative whenever you can
Youtube has the advantage of pre-existing content, the only way to retaliate is to get people to watch new videos elsewhere.
The content is also getting worse as creators are put into smaller and smaller boxes. Additionally the commentary, which is arguably more useful that the oc, is severely limited and affects peoples use.
Its inevitable that a lot of users will abandon YouTube steadily because it fails to provide access and use to the topics we are interested in. And its not political stuff, like you have gamers, health stuff, and normie stuff that's being limited so bad people can't use YouTube. Look at how frustrating it is to use reddit with all the rules and insta removals.
I was amazed how some of the broccoli boy Gen Z & alpha types had never even HEARD of Rumble.
With the latest YT censorship push, the algo has pushed some "YT alternative" videos into my feed. Some teens were building & pushing their own competitor builds. In the comments, when people asked about Rumble, they literally said "Never heard of them, I'll check them out".
A lot of normies bothered by the latest YT data mining push also have a visceral hate for Rumble. As in, they bitch about YT being Skynet, but then when suggested to use Rumble, they recoil "Ew, Trumpers & Nazis" and keeping on bitching.
I watched an interesting video from a smaller YT creator a few months back (don't remember who, doesn't really matter) who deleted all their alt media channels and tried to force his small following back on to YT.
They made a long video explaining their rationale. While I didn't agree with it, it was an interesting devil's advocate.
Other than the usual arguments (zero discoverability, more workload to mirror uploads, remembering logins to check multiplatform comments, zero monetization incentive on alt tech, etc), their argument mostly boiled down that if you only have a small audience, it's better to consolidate the community in one place rather than scattering them to the wind as a diaspora across platforms with minimum engagement with each other or the creator directly.
Again, I didn't fully agree, but it was a compelling counternarrative than usual.
There’s the ultimate problem. We accepted the idea of YouTube as a platform. It doesn’t have to be that way. You could have your own website, post your videos to all video hosting services (including YouTube) and engage with your supporters only through your website.
I think it's similar to how the big monopoly sites like X, Reddit & YT have conditioned people to stay within their walled gardens. And killed off all the old Internet forums.
Pretty much any effort I've seen to get fans off Big Tech & on to personal websites have failed. I'm guilty of it myself.
Eh not really. Especially given how often platforms ban people for nothing. My Facebook was banned and I used it to buy things off marketplace and I think I have a picture of my dog I posted. I couldn't get it back.
Don't put your eggs in a platform basket.
I thought the same thing watching the guy's treatise.
I think the guy was more of a normie though with vanilla views. They never think the ban hammer will ever come for them.
There's a whole subreddit called banned by Facebook or something iirc, that's a bunch of Normies panicking because gaybook deleted their account cause they can.
Did it work?
TBH, I unsubbed from the guy because I wasn't sure why I was subbed in the first place. Like I said in the OP, can't even recall who it was now.
I also thought nuking all the alt channels was a little excessive. And selfish.
Idk. My adblockers have kept me from seeing a youtube ad in years. That bandwidth without ad revenue supporting it isn't cheap.
Anyone who subscribed to youtube premium is already too far gone.
$8 a month to not have to deal with ads is a good deal. It’s cheaper than any other streaming service.
I only watch on my tv so it’s much more difficult to block ads than on a computer.
Use a pi-hole.
Yeah I’ve been thinking about it, I actually have a raspi that I bought for this purpose sitting in my closet. Just haven’t had the chance to set it up yet
I use Brave and see no ads without paying anything.
YouTube has lots of useful diy content
I always worry jewtube will try to erase it or paywall all of it
Sadly, too much of it is being made by brown hands.
Ya good ides to download and back up any digital content you want.
I completely rebuilt the engine in my truck using free videos people posted on youtube showing the steps
Took about one week for disassembly and one week for reassembly with new parts
Ya I've been using it a ton for diy stuff lately on the house. It's so nice because I don't have any IRL people to lean on for any of this info sadly.
I honestly think i've learned more useful stuff on youtube than i did in about 6 years of college. Only for free, with adblockers too.
What does this look like, out of curiosity?
Because I'm not seeing anything different at the moment, whether I'm signed in or not.
Supposedly it's only for accounts that an AI tool deems are underage simply by judging their viewing patterns.
The areas of concern are that adults that falsely get the Scarlet Letter have to link ID or credit cards to their YT accounts to get out of Google daycare.
Looking forward to seeing an article about an 18+ year old account getting flagged as potentially under-aged.
Ah, gotcha, thanks.
Oh this is going to be fun. My son likes to use my account to watch his stupid videos.
Lol same.
Are they requiring us to log in now? I mean, other than for the stuff they already label as “adult” content
Youtube will just keep chugging along, unfortunately.
YouTube will fail like a triple AAA game studio fails. They rely on being big and already having an audience and they forget they actually have to provide good service or their audience leaves.
Except there are thousands and thousands of games/options.
Yep and there are other video platforms that have good streaming and comment sections. Its just about building a userbase which will happen as content is banned from YouTube and they migrate to other places.
Remember when all the big reddit subs went dark to protest API changes?
Someone who doesn't know how to install an adblocker.
Rather than just not using the platform, alternatives should be used instead. That way YouTube gets hit twice, once by removing users and twice by supporting competitors. A boycott doesn't have to kill YouTube to be successful either, it just needs to move enough of the content to alternatives that people who value their freedom no longer need to use YouTube.
I've hardly been using YouTube since 2020 because LBRY/Odysee has almost everything I want, plus there's Bitchute, Rumble and others. If I do have to access a YouTube video once in a while I use Invidious or NewPipe.
I bet someone will make an age verification adblocker that will piss off YouTube
You could do something like bugle bugmenot.com and just give out usernames and passwords.
Cancelling Premium makes sense. Boycotting using their bandwidth for free does not.
Boycott won't work. Not enough people. There are many morons who will be still using it.