I know I'm preaching to the choir here and nothing I'm about to say is new or insightful, but holy shit there's nothing more draining than listening to some HR bitch yap as she wastes the time of people with real jobs. Look lady, I know you have to pretend that you aren't a parasite and that your adult daycare job is important, but those of us who create the excess productivity for you to leech off of have shit to do. I hear these cunts are a real joy in the dating market too, but I've been spared any first hand experience on that front.
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Are you talking about presentations? Surely you can just skip those.
In this comment, Antonio accidentally reveals that he doesn't have a job. That or this is his job.
> Jewish
> Disappears for weeks at a time
> Doesn't know about HR bullshit that would get a White man fired
JIDF confirmed!!@!
But seriously, I can't really fault him for not knowing things that aren't relevant to him.
Where did you get that idea? Kaarous used to spam me with a claim that was at least somewhat closer to the truth.
Not here, and pretty sure not in America either. Nearly everyone I know who skips these presentations is a [w]hite man (I'm not). Not the trainings, mind you, but very few of them are about HR stuff.
I think it was from a while ago when you commented about someone or someone's group wanting to genocide either you, or your people. Honestly, I don't keep notes on people.
Definitely America. I live it, I see it, I have friends and relatives that complain about it. At least for anyone actually White and not some mutt that can pass as something else. Standards are much, much lower for everyone else.
This kind of reminds me of when politicians protest too much.
I regularly skip all hands meetings and still haven't completed my onboarding mandatory training two and half years into my current job. Ignoring HR is a very achievable goal in some offices.
Or, you know, doesn't work a job with HR...?
Self employment or small businesses don't have HR. Plenty of other jobs too.
I've never been to an HR meeting.
In the EU? Hell, they wallpaper their trains with diversity propaganda. That dog won't hunt.
I never say if I do or don't. Opsec and all.
But do tell what was wrong with that.
The sheer ignorance mostly.
If you think you can just skip the HR training crap I'd question whether you have had a job since at least as far back as 2012.
I said presentations. Everyone I know skips them.
You can skip some of them here (company in Germany), you don't need 100% participation especially when it's repeat stuff. Your manager/boss can excuse you ("super important deadline") and you don't have to take it and with a good boss he will give you that excuse regularly. But not always, cause eventually they would go after him.
There are some trainings/presentations that don't require physical presence, cause there's no HR instructor, and you can complete them at any time. You dont get to ignore those. "Just do it in a month". But those are never about DEI shit, but security / bribery / corruption related ones.
Not really most are required and you can lose your job for missing them.
If you're productive enough or irreplaceable they don't actually care and you can literally do what you want. If you are somewhere where you can't then, to the company, you are expendable.
If it wasn't an HR problem it'll be something else. It's a giant sign that says "work somewhere else."
They've been forcing you more and more to actually do those. Even made videos unskipable and then you get a small quiz at the end.
To their defense the training has become a lot less about DIE stuff.
Unskippable videos with volume controls disabled.
Unfortunately for them, volume mixers still exist for anyone competent enough to use them.
Right click, "Mute Site"
Sounds more like a 'training'. The people I know all skip the presentations, where some HR person or executive talks and talks - because these can be easily skipped. The way OP framed it, it sounded like a presentation than a training.
Maybe because I'm working from home but I've rarely had any HR live presentations. The few times I had it was somewhat useful like medical coverage and best practices and safety requirements even if you work from home.
Same experience for me. But they're always recorded and broadcast online.
What confused me about OP is that he seemed to be talking about HR presentations:
But everyone here is reading my comment as though it refers to trainings (i.e., programs where you don't interact with a human being).
The in person presentations demand attendance and will even discipline you if you are obviously not paying attention.
The computer powerpoints and the like not only have check systems to make sure you have done them (one of my jobs printed them off every month as a reminder of what you need to do) but also spend considerable development time closing every loophole that would allow you to "skip" through them faster. The last ones I did had a monotone guy reading every single word on the page slowly, and wouldn't let you go to the next one until he finished.
Its actually a real problem, because a lot of them are extremely long and most jobs don't actually have the hours to spare to allot for them in regular employee schedules. Meaning either overtime or straight up "this employee gets a day off sitting in the computer room." So its a loss of both productivity and profit for the company as well.
That shit is the worst, I can't focus on what I'm reading when I'm being spoken at and I don't comprehend spoken word as well as written world so often what ends up happening is I have to wait for the audio to finish then read what was written so I check I understood properly, nothing but time wasting that actually inhibits my ability to take in the information being presented.
Put Subway Surfers or Family Guy funny moments in the corner of the presentation. If it works for ADHD Tiktokers, it should work for terminally boring
struggle sessionsHR presentations.Shit if only. Our work computers are so locked down and limited that you can't do anything on them beyond the handful of approved apps.
But, we aren't in tech or even office workers so we literally only use them for this purpose and the occasional messing around with vacation days. I have to imagine the office drone has a lot more flexibility there, though probably also a lot more surveillance.
Personally, I just dawdle on my phone while waiting for Mr. Slow Read to finish. Its only frustrating because I have being inefficient and sitting around, and its forcing me to do so.
LOL. Never even heard of that. That's some serious North Korean stuff.
Those I have seen (though not about HR stuff). The solution is to mute your headphone, and just take a break in the meantime.
How long are we thinking about? You said one day. A year? Still a lot, but fairly manageable.
Probably still profitable as some sort of lawsuit shield.
Look, we forced our employees to take a training on PEANUT ALLERGIES. You don't get to sue us for a hostile work environment. That might be why this is less of a problem here, because successful frivolous lawsuits are also less common.
Its not nearly as serious. Its literally just "hey we have a meeting today about not harassing women" and they expect you to not be on your phone or talking in the back. Its annoying more than a serious threat, but its also non-negotiable.
The worst ones I've dealt with were 4~ hours on a single module, basically removed your ability to do any other work for the day after. And most jobs seem to do "yearly refreshes" where you have to redo 90% of them every year, which can add up to something like 40+ hours between them all. Which is literally a week of lost productivity at the minimum.
Absolutely the case, else it wouldn't be so omnipresent. My company literally said "we will eat the consequences, we aren't enforcing the vaxx, its more money lost that way" but still complies with these HR jokes.
Most frivolous lawsuits weren't as frivolous as they seemed, but the corporations who lost had great connections to journalists and media to make it sound like they were.
Small Civil Court shit like Judge Judy is filled with frivolous lawsuits, but the big corporate ones usually have to pass a lot of smell tests to even get there. Not that some haven't made it through, but the "you can sue anyone in America lol!" meme is more of a European's consuming too much news media than reality.
Weird stuff. Apparently, a lot of people have the same experience as you, because people are very Mad at me. I guess I should be thankful that this is condensed into a stupid training here.
Oh, I'm aware, even the McDonald's case. But the 'hostile work environment' stuff is pretty crap. Like the black guy who got $160 million at some Elon Musk company because a Mexican called him 'nigga'. Maybe it's not even the frivolous nature but the huge punitive payouts. Here, you get back pay and very small punitive damages, if any.
What's up then with GOP trying to limit liability? Just a giveaway to corporate interests? (Not surprised.)
It's a required box checking exercise that could be cut in half at the very least if they cut out all the extraneous shit. That's more annoying than the exercise itself.