Maybe im in the wrong here, but I think the problem lies in the reality they killed most of the female babys for the last 20 years so men outnumber women?
According to official figures, there are 30 million more men in China than women. Those are CCP numbers, so that means unofficially it's probably much worse than that.
Combine all those angry young men with China's historical tendency to alternate between being brutally subjugated by strong rulers and exploding into insanely huge rebellions with massive body counts and it's no wonder they're hesitant to face this issue.
There is only one historically tested way to solve the problem of excess male population, and if you have 30 million of them to get rid of, it's going to be a pretty massive fucking war.
Yes, but historically there's also a very large risk of those 30 million extra men ending up at war against their own government. Which will be doubly "interesting times" since we haven't seen a nuclear power fight a civil war before.
The closest we’ve seen is during the dissolution of the USSR, and that got pretty ugly especially in Russia. China is the only nation on earth that I could imagine nuking their own population in a civil war.
Depending on how you define "their own", I think the Indians also might. The divide between north and south indians seems similar to the one between the various chinese ethnicities.
Has China been aggressors in war, though? Maybe internally but with other nations? Seems like they prefer other methods like exporting fentanyl or other less direct attacks.
They're dealing with the issue right now. Xi has essentially been recalled, and a different CCP faction is now in charge. I haven't seen a good analysis of if they are hardliners or reformers, though.
I saw some YouTube video that said he had essentially been removed from office, though whether through a bloodless coup or a forced step down I do not know.
Do what the Germans did. Kick them out of the workplace.
The problem isn't the imbalance, it's that the women they do have aren't reproducing.
If China wants results, they need only drop the pretense that they care about the individual's rights at all, and make it both illegal and impractical to be a single woman. They HAVE the government apparatus to feasibly do this.
Do as Canada did in the 1700s: Women over the age of majority (it was much younger back then for Canada, but whatever China would want now) must pay a fine/annual tax if they're unmarried. Men 2 years over the age of majority must do the same. Additional fees if no child for 5 years of marriage.
Men 2 years over the age of majority must do the same.
See now that's where you lose me because China knows full well a few dozen million men will be SOL through no fault of their own. By all means tax the women into marriage. But not men. Not while the ratio is out of whack.
Polyandry wouldn't be an option. Societies may or may not be able to become polygamous in times of stress but I think sharing a wife is out of the question for 99% of men.
I think sharing a wife is out of the question for 99% of men
It happens at the extreme low end of the SMV scale here in the West, and the cuck fights are something to behold. They often end up murdering each other or any kids that come out of the degenerate arrangement.
The problem is that the women they have are opting to be single. The state need only take that choice out of their hands.
This will probably trigger a civil war between the idealistic white knights who would die for women to be free of the state, and the pragmatic statists who will gamble their lives for a state patriarchy is the law. That quite conveniently solves the oversupply problem.
This will probably trigger a civil war between the idealistic white knights who would die for women to be free of the state
No one's that principled, least of all Chinese bugmen.
We saw a preview of how this would go down when the Taliban took over Afghanistan again and feminists did their usual protests. Kill most of the white knights, make very public examples of female figureheads; the men will be too scared for their own skin to defend Women's Rights™, and the women will put on their trash bags and go back to the kitchen.
China could easily import in more women if they wanted. It's China not Canada. The Chinese government could allow single females under 25yo to get expedited immigration and even give them some minor free gibs to encourage women from other countries to come to China. It's really simple stuff.
Then China could end feminism to promote birth rates and marriages if they wanted.
Obviously, no White woman in Western society is going to be jumping at it but women from poorer Southeast Asian countries may chomp at the bit. China's economic opportunity is 2-5x that of a lot of poorer SEA countries so with the right marketing, a lot of young women could be lured to China in hopes of a better life marrying a Chinese man.
"It would be nice to have more stupid fish like this...more obedient than dogs!" In the first interactive movie game against emotional fraud, face the true face of "them". You will play the role of "emotion hunter", dealing with, testing, and fighting back against the "emotional fraud" organization, seeing through the lies, and dismantling the traps. Will the flame of revenge burn them, or extinguish them in the sinking, or let love be reborn in the ashes? It's all up to you.
I wonder of emotional damage is actually a mechanic.
Are they though? Of all nations, China has the most practical power to solve that problem by force if they have the will to do so.
How? By importing women?
Maybe im in the wrong here, but I think the problem lies in the reality they killed most of the female babys for the last 20 years so men outnumber women?
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3144225/we-had-no-choice-chinas-one-child-policy-and-millions-missing
Only 20 million? The seems awfully low to me.
God damn, I couldnt imagine being stuck in a country where your mate was potentially killed before they were even born.
There has to be alot of lonely, angry, horny, men over there.
According to official figures, there are 30 million more men in China than women. Those are CCP numbers, so that means unofficially it's probably much worse than that.
Combine all those angry young men with China's historical tendency to alternate between being brutally subjugated by strong rulers and exploding into insanely huge rebellions with massive body counts and it's no wonder they're hesitant to face this issue.
There is only one historically tested way to solve the problem of excess male population, and if you have 30 million of them to get rid of, it's going to be a pretty massive fucking war.
Yes, but historically there's also a very large risk of those 30 million extra men ending up at war against their own government. Which will be doubly "interesting times" since we haven't seen a nuclear power fight a civil war before.
The closest we’ve seen is during the dissolution of the USSR, and that got pretty ugly especially in Russia. China is the only nation on earth that I could imagine nuking their own population in a civil war.
Depending on how you define "their own", I think the Indians also might. The divide between north and south indians seems similar to the one between the various chinese ethnicities.
Has China been aggressors in war, though? Maybe internally but with other nations? Seems like they prefer other methods like exporting fentanyl or other less direct attacks.
They invaded Vietnam repeatedly. And Russia.
The SARS-COV2 bioweapon attack against those they deemed competition's pretty much a direct attack.
They're dealing with the issue right now. Xi has essentially been recalled, and a different CCP faction is now in charge. I haven't seen a good analysis of if they are hardliners or reformers, though.
I saw some YouTube video that said he had essentially been removed from office, though whether through a bloodless coup or a forced step down I do not know.
The only difference between the two is does Xi get a bullet tomorrow or at some point further in the future.
Do what the Germans did. Kick them out of the workplace.
The problem isn't the imbalance, it's that the women they do have aren't reproducing.
If China wants results, they need only drop the pretense that they care about the individual's rights at all, and make it both illegal and impractical to be a single woman. They HAVE the government apparatus to feasibly do this.
State mandated Chinese gfs??
Reverse the phrasing. State mandated patriarchy.
No matter what, China has excess men. Only time or war will solve that.
...Chinese gf-mandated state?
Chinese women mandated to pick a husband or they will be assigned one via lottery.
In turn, jurispuridence on domestic disputes is rolled back to the 19th century norms.
Do as Canada did in the 1700s: Women over the age of majority (it was much younger back then for Canada, but whatever China would want now) must pay a fine/annual tax if they're unmarried. Men 2 years over the age of majority must do the same. Additional fees if no child for 5 years of marriage.
See now that's where you lose me because China knows full well a few dozen million men will be SOL through no fault of their own. By all means tax the women into marriage. But not men. Not while the ratio is out of whack.
Maybe from Vietnam?
Polyandry wouldn't be an option. Societies may or may not be able to become polygamous in times of stress but I think sharing a wife is out of the question for 99% of men.
It happens at the extreme low end of the SMV scale here in the West, and the cuck fights are something to behold. They often end up murdering each other or any kids that come out of the degenerate arrangement.
The oversupply of men is not an issue at all.
The problem is that the women they have are opting to be single. The state need only take that choice out of their hands.
This will probably trigger a civil war between the idealistic white knights who would die for women to be free of the state, and the pragmatic statists who will gamble their lives for a state patriarchy is the law. That quite conveniently solves the oversupply problem.
Both of those things are serious problems
I have every confidence in the Chinese government's capacity to unalive excess men. Either directly or by giving them some foreign beach to storm.
No one's that principled, least of all Chinese bugmen.
We saw a preview of how this would go down when the Taliban took over Afghanistan again and feminists did their usual protests. Kill most of the white knights, make very public examples of female figureheads; the men will be too scared for their own skin to defend Women's Rights™, and the women will put on their trash bags and go back to the kitchen.
Mhmmm. That's certainly the ideal.
But because of my particular faith I never rule out the hypothetical possibility of people being willing to die for dumb ideas.
China could easily import in more women if they wanted. It's China not Canada. The Chinese government could allow single females under 25yo to get expedited immigration and even give them some minor free gibs to encourage women from other countries to come to China. It's really simple stuff.
Then China could end feminism to promote birth rates and marriages if they wanted.
and then enjoy demographic destruction.
Ehhh, China has enough people that importing in 50m foreign women to comfort their men would hardly lead to demographic destruction.
What 25 yo woman is going to want that though?
Obviously, no White woman in Western society is going to be jumping at it but women from poorer Southeast Asian countries may chomp at the bit. China's economic opportunity is 2-5x that of a lot of poorer SEA countries so with the right marketing, a lot of young women could be lured to China in hopes of a better life marrying a Chinese man.
I could see some Iranian or Iraqi women taking up that offer, maybe some Palestinian ones.
Who wants to tell him?
Archive. (Bypasses paywall, and avoids giving Bloomberg a click.)
i'm so tired of those sleazy "caused controversy" "renewed debate" lines, that skip the qualifier "among journalists"
“among extreme feminist journalists”
lol, good luck pissing into the wind.
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I guess it's FMV / Interactive Fiction?
I wonder of emotional damage is actually a mechanic.
So........
English edition when?
Dont worry feminists.. you too ugly (inside and out) to gold dig anyone.