That's it? "I messaged your mom"? That's trivial. Just a variation of the generic "I fucked your mom" that people told others constantly in high school. Did the fan even know that his mom was dead?
This seems just so insignificant a barb that it doesn't feel like it deserves those consequences at all. The player and the league need tougher skin.
For something that generic, I wouldn't be surprised if the jokester didn't even know that the guy's mom was dead. It's pretty easy these days to accidentally "trigger" emotional responses from some people.
This mostly highlights a trend of increasingly sensitive athletes having emotional outbursts due to insults. The spectators may be getting worse in a degrading culture, but I also think the players would have already experienced some of this, having developed within it.
I agree it's rude. I just think the punishment is greater than the crime. An ejection, cool. But banishment from every MLB establishment is ridiculous. That Red Sox player called a fan a faggot and wasn't banned.
How is this related to gaming? We are talking about a guy PAYING to enter a PUBLIC event to DIRECTLY harass someone by bringing up their dead relatives within earshot.
That sounds less like a public COD lobby, more like targeted bullying.
Have you ever been to a comedy show outside of North America? Or watched one on youtube? Many people pay to attend them just to heckle the guy on stage. It's to the point that English comedians have remarked in interviews how different it felt to do a show for Just for Laughs in Montreal, because they'd be able to do their whole bit without interruption. Would paying to do that be your cup of tea? Probably not, but it's still surprisingly common. It also teaches the comedians to not be so stuck up, to get a sense of humour, to have thick skin and to be able to improvise a counter-barb on their feet.
This was such a trivial jab from the fan, that the league's reaction is entirely over the top, in my opinion. They should grow up. It's just fucking words.
Again, different setting, one in which you EXPECT it.
An ACTUAL counter argument would be football chanting in the UK where the crowd COLLECTIVELY chanted insults to their team, the opposing team, hell to themselves! But it was always collective not one guy by himself.
But this guy sounds like he at least ensured he would be close enough in the stadium to the guy so he could hear him. Do you see the issue here with this?
No. I don't. Players should expect to hear people shout obscenities at them to distract them. Not every sport is like tennis, where it is demanded that the stands be silent during play. Have you really never been playing on a field and had players on the opposing bench shouting at you that you sucked? This is just a variation of that.
I honestly can't understand why people are clutching their pearls so tightly because of this. Acting like mere words warrants such a disproportionate response feels like the same kind of justification that black people use to chimp out whenever someone calls them niggers. I don't agree with their reactions in those situations, and I don't agree with this one, either.
Ok did something change with 'America' favourite past time'? Like the sport where people will sing along to 'take me out to the ballgame' during a break?
I feel like this is one instance where A LOT of people are out of touch, focusing on the 'free speech is absolute' aspect than the actual average opinion.
People HATE people being loud obnoxious assholes in certain places. You can say free speech as much as you like but they have the right to deny you entry because you were being a dick and didn't stop. This DOESN'T apply to gaming as we have MUTE buttons but if you believe people should be able to heckle most places, Trump would disagree with you
Was this a comedy show? Was the victim of the insult expecting to be harassed by the audience? Is that normal for this venue?
No.
They banned a guy for making the "OK" sign, claiming it was racist. IDK if that was ever overturned, but the "woke precedent" was set. Them's the rules now.
I hope they'll "walk it back" but sending the message was important! Do NOT do this.
That's it? "I messaged your mom"? That's trivial. Just a variation of the generic "I fucked your mom" that people told others constantly in high school. Did the fan even know that his mom was dead?
This seems just so insignificant a barb that it doesn't feel like it deserves those consequences at all. The player and the league need tougher skin.
It's like they have never been in a COD lobby.
For something that generic, I wouldn't be surprised if the jokester didn't even know that the guy's mom was dead. It's pretty easy these days to accidentally "trigger" emotional responses from some people.
This mostly highlights a trend of increasingly sensitive athletes having emotional outbursts due to insults. The spectators may be getting worse in a degrading culture, but I also think the players would have already experienced some of this, having developed within it.
It’s rude to say that but I would imagine players hear rude things all the time.
I agree it's rude. I just think the punishment is greater than the crime. An ejection, cool. But banishment from every MLB establishment is ridiculous. That Red Sox player called a fan a faggot and wasn't banned.
Exactly. Excessive to the extreme. They are acting like his whole family died last week
The fan sounds like such an arsehole that it justifies him getting banned.
Insult the guy, don't be a pussy and insult his family, especially dead relatives to hurt him.
You are the reason modern games no longer have proximity chat. Grow up. Stop crying about nothing. Fucking tourists.
How is this related to gaming? We are talking about a guy PAYING to enter a PUBLIC event to DIRECTLY harass someone by bringing up their dead relatives within earshot.
That sounds less like a public COD lobby, more like targeted bullying.
Have you ever been to a comedy show outside of North America? Or watched one on youtube? Many people pay to attend them just to heckle the guy on stage. It's to the point that English comedians have remarked in interviews how different it felt to do a show for Just for Laughs in Montreal, because they'd be able to do their whole bit without interruption. Would paying to do that be your cup of tea? Probably not, but it's still surprisingly common. It also teaches the comedians to not be so stuck up, to get a sense of humour, to have thick skin and to be able to improvise a counter-barb on their feet.
This was such a trivial jab from the fan, that the league's reaction is entirely over the top, in my opinion. They should grow up. It's just fucking words.
Again, different setting, one in which you EXPECT it.
An ACTUAL counter argument would be football chanting in the UK where the crowd COLLECTIVELY chanted insults to their team, the opposing team, hell to themselves! But it was always collective not one guy by himself.
But this guy sounds like he at least ensured he would be close enough in the stadium to the guy so he could hear him. Do you see the issue here with this?
No. I don't. Players should expect to hear people shout obscenities at them to distract them. Not every sport is like tennis, where it is demanded that the stands be silent during play. Have you really never been playing on a field and had players on the opposing bench shouting at you that you sucked? This is just a variation of that.
I honestly can't understand why people are clutching their pearls so tightly because of this. Acting like mere words warrants such a disproportionate response feels like the same kind of justification that black people use to chimp out whenever someone calls them niggers. I don't agree with their reactions in those situations, and I don't agree with this one, either.
Ok did something change with 'America' favourite past time'? Like the sport where people will sing along to 'take me out to the ballgame' during a break?
I feel like this is one instance where A LOT of people are out of touch, focusing on the 'free speech is absolute' aspect than the actual average opinion.
People HATE people being loud obnoxious assholes in certain places. You can say free speech as much as you like but they have the right to deny you entry because you were being a dick and didn't stop. This DOESN'T apply to gaming as we have MUTE buttons but if you believe people should be able to heckle most places, Trump would disagree with you
Was this a comedy show? Was the victim of the insult expecting to be harassed by the audience? Is that normal for this venue?
No.
They banned a guy for making the "OK" sign, claiming it was racist. IDK if that was ever overturned, but the "woke precedent" was set. Them's the rules now.
I hope they'll "walk it back" but sending the message was important! Do NOT do this.
There was an NBA player named Vernon Maxwell who charged into the stands during an away game to assault a fan.
Why?
The fan insulted Maxwell's stillborn daughter.
For once, I can't blame the player.
And in that case it was worse as security SHOULD have kicked that 'fan' out.
Too many think freedom of speech includes freedom to be an arsehole WITHOUT consequence.
You gonna cry faggot?
Well BAN HIS ASS. 🤬 What a jerk.
If he even tries to violate the ban? He needs hard time in prison. There are some lines that should never be crossed.
Tourist.
First off, the sportsball group is retarded and gay for banning him.
Secondly, this whole thing is fake, gay, and retarded for giving a fuck about sportsball slop.
Fake, gay, and retarded is your brand, you simpleton faggot. You fat, faggot, woman.
Cope and seethe more cocksucker
Inbred tranny
You sure are.
Yeah, a first grade response is the best you got. Not uh, you are.
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You first cuckold.
Faggot
Faggot
Sack up you little bitch and do something.
You keep saying that shit retard while you've done nothing your whole life.
Okay cuck. I'm sure your wife's Jewish boyfriend will buy you a switch eventually
You've never touched a woman you ugly pathetic little boy.
Fan is better off never being able to waste money at a sportsball trap