How is this related to gaming? We are talking about a guy PAYING to enter a PUBLIC event to DIRECTLY harass someone by bringing up their dead relatives within earshot.
That sounds less like a public COD lobby, more like targeted bullying.
Have you ever been to a comedy show outside of North America? Or watched one on youtube? Many people pay to attend them just to heckle the guy on stage. It's to the point that English comedians have remarked in interviews how different it felt to do a show for Just for Laughs in Montreal, because they'd be able to do their whole bit without interruption. Would paying to do that be your cup of tea? Probably not, but it's still surprisingly common. It also teaches the comedians to not be so stuck up, to get a sense of humour, to have thick skin and to be able to improvise a counter-barb on their feet.
This was such a trivial jab from the fan, that the league's reaction is entirely over the top, in my opinion. They should grow up. It's just fucking words.
Again, different setting, one in which you EXPECT it.
An ACTUAL counter argument would be football chanting in the UK where the crowd COLLECTIVELY chanted insults to their team, the opposing team, hell to themselves! But it was always collective not one guy by himself.
But this guy sounds like he at least ensured he would be close enough in the stadium to the guy so he could hear him. Do you see the issue here with this?
No. I don't. Players should expect to hear people shout obscenities at them to distract them. Not every sport is like tennis, where it is demanded that the stands be silent during play. Have you really never been playing on a field and had players on the opposing bench shouting at you that you sucked? This is just a variation of that.
I honestly can't understand why people are clutching their pearls so tightly because of this. Acting like mere words warrants such a disproportionate response feels like the same kind of justification that black people use to chimp out whenever someone calls them niggers. I don't agree with their reactions in those situations, and I don't agree with this one, either.
Ok did something change with 'America' favourite past time'? Like the sport where people will sing along to 'take me out to the ballgame' during a break?
I feel like this is one instance where A LOT of people are out of touch, focusing on the 'free speech is absolute' aspect than the actual average opinion.
People HATE people being loud obnoxious assholes in certain places. You can say free speech as much as you like but they have the right to deny you entry because you were being a dick and didn't stop. This DOESN'T apply to gaming as we have MUTE buttons but if you believe people should be able to heckle most places, Trump would disagree with you
Was this a comedy show? Was the victim of the insult expecting to be harassed by the audience? Is that normal for this venue?
No.
They banned a guy for making the "OK" sign, claiming it was racist. IDK if that was ever overturned, but the "woke precedent" was set. Them's the rules now.
I hope they'll "walk it back" but sending the message was important! Do NOT do this.
How is this related to gaming? We are talking about a guy PAYING to enter a PUBLIC event to DIRECTLY harass someone by bringing up their dead relatives within earshot.
That sounds less like a public COD lobby, more like targeted bullying.
Have you ever been to a comedy show outside of North America? Or watched one on youtube? Many people pay to attend them just to heckle the guy on stage. It's to the point that English comedians have remarked in interviews how different it felt to do a show for Just for Laughs in Montreal, because they'd be able to do their whole bit without interruption. Would paying to do that be your cup of tea? Probably not, but it's still surprisingly common. It also teaches the comedians to not be so stuck up, to get a sense of humour, to have thick skin and to be able to improvise a counter-barb on their feet.
This was such a trivial jab from the fan, that the league's reaction is entirely over the top, in my opinion. They should grow up. It's just fucking words.
Again, different setting, one in which you EXPECT it.
An ACTUAL counter argument would be football chanting in the UK where the crowd COLLECTIVELY chanted insults to their team, the opposing team, hell to themselves! But it was always collective not one guy by himself.
But this guy sounds like he at least ensured he would be close enough in the stadium to the guy so he could hear him. Do you see the issue here with this?
No. I don't. Players should expect to hear people shout obscenities at them to distract them. Not every sport is like tennis, where it is demanded that the stands be silent during play. Have you really never been playing on a field and had players on the opposing bench shouting at you that you sucked? This is just a variation of that.
I honestly can't understand why people are clutching their pearls so tightly because of this. Acting like mere words warrants such a disproportionate response feels like the same kind of justification that black people use to chimp out whenever someone calls them niggers. I don't agree with their reactions in those situations, and I don't agree with this one, either.
Ok did something change with 'America' favourite past time'? Like the sport where people will sing along to 'take me out to the ballgame' during a break?
I feel like this is one instance where A LOT of people are out of touch, focusing on the 'free speech is absolute' aspect than the actual average opinion.
People HATE people being loud obnoxious assholes in certain places. You can say free speech as much as you like but they have the right to deny you entry because you were being a dick and didn't stop. This DOESN'T apply to gaming as we have MUTE buttons but if you believe people should be able to heckle most places, Trump would disagree with you
Was this a comedy show? Was the victim of the insult expecting to be harassed by the audience? Is that normal for this venue?
No.
They banned a guy for making the "OK" sign, claiming it was racist. IDK if that was ever overturned, but the "woke precedent" was set. Them's the rules now.
I hope they'll "walk it back" but sending the message was important! Do NOT do this.