The thing that gets me is it is not true. "He chickened out on the tariffs!" Maybe the super high ones, but did we suddenly all forget there is a new 10% tariff on all imports that didnt exist before his whole plan? Apparently we did, including Wall Street since they are acting like things are back to what they were before. And of course, also ignoring the new trade deals and foreign investment that resulted in extremely strong economic numbers even as the stock market was setting its hair on fire for seemingly no other reason than "Why are you touching things?!"
Differences in price don't have a linear effect, they have an exponential effect; they also have inertia as supplie chains shift and empty out, etc.
When applied it mans that the adjustments go: "Not enough, not enough, not enough, WAY TOO MUCH!" while there is a lag of months between cause and effect.
Perhaps 10% is too low, but it is a lot better than none. He also got the market panic out of the way and now the tariff is in place.
If in a year Trump wants to raise the tariffs to 12% (which would be a fucking huge jump) then it won't be a big deal. Not only that, if he signals the new tariff hike, he'll get companies to make plans to onshore supplies early.
Trumps strategy with the Tariffs has been a brilliant management of foreign relations and the media circus.
Yes, I hope he puts them up (even though I don't live in the USA, and it will hurt my country); but I am happy with the way things have gone.
This seems to be the Left-wing version of the Right-wing claim that he "cucked out on tariffs".
Did everyone just expect that he would never reduce tariffs from 125%? More importantly, the trade negotiations areSTILLongoing with China. Everyone keeps screaming that they know what the outcome of the tariffs and "liberation day" were, but in most cases Trump got basically new trade deals, or the negotiations of trade deals are still ongoing. The primary objective of these tariffs not being the tariffs themselves, but in fundamentally changing the structure of international trade, and completely reforming how trade is conducted internationally.
I think some people really thought that all of the worlds manufacturing would just re-open in the US by now. One of the libertarian complaints about the tariffs was correct: the factories that Trump wants in the US haven't been built yet. The global economy has to shift in our direction, and it seems clear that Trump (if not his negotiators) understand that. As was the case in 2019, they are off-shoring from China back to Japan, South Korea, India, Vietnam, Indonesia, and the Philippines; while foreign corporations are pledging to increase industrial infrastructure in the US.
Both the hysterical right and hysterical libertarian responses seemed to have assumed that the tarrifs were never part of a larger trade negotiation strategy.
As for the Left's willful misinterpretation, they seem to believe (in a similar way) that if Trump every backed down from his highest demands (which he does literally 100% of the time as per his stated strategy), then it means he failed. These are the same people who told you that Joe Biden had the strongest economy in history.
He and they both know that this isn't a real question. It was bait for this exact response, meant to write these exact headlines. And its one of those baits that he has no real winning move against, with this probably being the least bad because its a simple "don't say that, its rude" like a dad admonishing a child.
But its on the same level as a reporter asking him "protestors said you pooped your pants, response?" Pathetic childishness meant to accomplish nothing.
Trump always does the same thing, absurd bad deal first to then make a more reasonable one and make people think they are winning the negotiation when in fact it's still Trump taking a win.
Call it chickening out if you want but here, in the land of the sane, it's a basic negotiation tactic that should be blatantly obvious.
Negotiating somewhere in the middle after your initial offer is not "chickening out".
But I can see how a crowd that enthusiastically goes along with every corporate ass-fucking like $90 Switch games that aren't even on the cartridge or $120/yr Youtube Premium where they give back features they deliberately removed or $18/mo for heated car seats you already paid for would consider it that way.
I very rarely log in to Facebook, but I did today and found myself on the page of a leftoid acquaintance from college that I never really talked to much after. It gave me a good glimpse into lefty narratives on the tariffs.
The most striking to me was a mountain of cope that with every new trade deal signed, it's actually Trump caving and accepting worse or equal conditions to what existed previously. Remember when Columbia folded faster than a house of cards? Actually, Trump was the one that folded and the terms he agreed to were actually worse than what existed before.
Legitimately embarrassing that people believe something that is not only extremely retarded on its face, but is verifiably false with just a small amount of digging.
Leftists have to pretend they were born thinking exactly what they think right now as part of how their secular faith has no concept of salvation or forgiveness, so they assume being really smug about how one of their enemies changed what they were doing is a devastating attack.
The thing that gets me is it is not true. "He chickened out on the tariffs!" Maybe the super high ones, but did we suddenly all forget there is a new 10% tariff on all imports that didnt exist before his whole plan? Apparently we did, including Wall Street since they are acting like things are back to what they were before. And of course, also ignoring the new trade deals and foreign investment that resulted in extremely strong economic numbers even as the stock market was setting its hair on fire for seemingly no other reason than "Why are you touching things?!"
The super high ones are the ones that matter.
The only reason I am pro tariff is to onshore US manufacturing.
These trade deals represent nothing but a flash in the pan corporate giveaways.
What are the “really strong economic numbers” and when do they start reducing inflation lowering gas prices and incr asking my wage rate?
Gas has been down
I’ve found the % fluctuations to be greater week to week +/-40 cents or so. But not consistently down.
Probably depends on your area. Ive seen people post 2.89 gas and others post its 4+in their area
Differences in price don't have a linear effect, they have an exponential effect; they also have inertia as supplie chains shift and empty out, etc.
When applied it mans that the adjustments go: "Not enough, not enough, not enough, WAY TOO MUCH!" while there is a lag of months between cause and effect.
Perhaps 10% is too low, but it is a lot better than none. He also got the market panic out of the way and now the tariff is in place.
If in a year Trump wants to raise the tariffs to 12% (which would be a fucking huge jump) then it won't be a big deal. Not only that, if he signals the new tariff hike, he'll get companies to make plans to onshore supplies early.
Trumps strategy with the Tariffs has been a brilliant management of foreign relations and the media circus.
Yes, I hope he puts them up (even though I don't live in the USA, and it will hurt my country); but I am happy with the way things have gone.
This seems to be the Left-wing version of the Right-wing claim that he "cucked out on tariffs".
Did everyone just expect that he would never reduce tariffs from 125%? More importantly, the trade negotiations are STILL ongoing with China. Everyone keeps screaming that they know what the outcome of the tariffs and "liberation day" were, but in most cases Trump got basically new trade deals, or the negotiations of trade deals are still ongoing. The primary objective of these tariffs not being the tariffs themselves, but in fundamentally changing the structure of international trade, and completely reforming how trade is conducted internationally.
I think some people really thought that all of the worlds manufacturing would just re-open in the US by now. One of the libertarian complaints about the tariffs was correct: the factories that Trump wants in the US haven't been built yet. The global economy has to shift in our direction, and it seems clear that Trump (if not his negotiators) understand that. As was the case in 2019, they are off-shoring from China back to Japan, South Korea, India, Vietnam, Indonesia, and the Philippines; while foreign corporations are pledging to increase industrial infrastructure in the US.
Both the hysterical right and hysterical libertarian responses seemed to have assumed that the tarrifs were never part of a larger trade negotiation strategy.
As for the Left's willful misinterpretation, they seem to believe (in a similar way) that if Trump every backed down from his highest demands (which he does literally 100% of the time as per his stated strategy), then it means he failed. These are the same people who told you that Joe Biden had the strongest economy in history.
And he only put a temporary hold on them while deals were negotiated.
which is apparently the same thing as chickening out I guess.
Yes, they're claiming fake wins now.
Shh, let them cook. Maybe this will put some backbone into Trump. Let them bully him into being the dictator they think he is, there's no downside.
Here come the mature and adult and responsible Left with petty children's acronyms to teach the evil fascist dictator despot a lesson!
These people will side with Wall Street, who they blame (rightly so in a lot of cases) are ruining the country to fight Trump, lol.
Left: Trump chickens out on tariffs!
Also the left: Federal judge just block all of Trumps tariffs!
He and they both know that this isn't a real question. It was bait for this exact response, meant to write these exact headlines. And its one of those baits that he has no real winning move against, with this probably being the least bad because its a simple "don't say that, its rude" like a dad admonishing a child.
But its on the same level as a reporter asking him "protestors said you pooped your pants, response?" Pathetic childishness meant to accomplish nothing.
And what think tank did they consult to get this winning acronym? A Mexican preschool?
Trump always does the same thing, absurd bad deal first to then make a more reasonable one and make people think they are winning the negotiation when in fact it's still Trump taking a win.
Call it chickening out if you want but here, in the land of the sane, it's a basic negotiation tactic that should be blatantly obvious.
Negotiating somewhere in the middle after your initial offer is not "chickening out".
But I can see how a crowd that enthusiastically goes along with every corporate ass-fucking like $90 Switch games that aren't even on the cartridge or $120/yr Youtube Premium where they give back features they deliberately removed or $18/mo for heated car seats you already paid for would consider it that way.
All or nothing is all they know.
I very rarely log in to Facebook, but I did today and found myself on the page of a leftoid acquaintance from college that I never really talked to much after. It gave me a good glimpse into lefty narratives on the tariffs.
The most striking to me was a mountain of cope that with every new trade deal signed, it's actually Trump caving and accepting worse or equal conditions to what existed previously. Remember when Columbia folded faster than a house of cards? Actually, Trump was the one that folded and the terms he agreed to were actually worse than what existed before.
Legitimately embarrassing that people believe something that is not only extremely retarded on its face, but is verifiably false with just a small amount of digging.
Yeah, most of the posts from lefty friends is from Facebook. They are quite convinced the moon is green.
Leftists have to pretend they were born thinking exactly what they think right now as part of how their secular faith has no concept of salvation or forgiveness, so they assume being really smug about how one of their enemies changed what they were doing is a devastating attack.