Back when we could talk about problems without sugar coating it so much that it's just sugar and no filling. I've got a book from the later 1800s that talks about how the average freed negro would generally never be good above labor tasks and was discussing how to keep them busy lest problems arise from them being left idle. Hmm, maybe we should have continued that discussion.
I've heard theories that Indians are the lost tribes of Israel. I'm not familiar enough with them to say whether I believe them or not but this post reminded me of that.
Yes, they believe there was a family from another tribe of Israel that had a civilization that eventually wiped itself out in the Americas. They enjoy guessing where it was, and how large they had gotten. The term Mormon comes from the historian that compiler the history of his people and had his son preserve the record before he died. Hence the Book of Mormon. It is believed that Joseph Smith found and translated this book by divine means, and then founded his faith based on what he had learned from it, both the writings and the divine help to translate.
The problem is the period in history that it happened had several civilizations wiped out, and the known origin is a shrug of the shoulder.
There were also several trade groups that were part of the Americas. Hence relatives of potatoes found in New Zealand, and chicken bones found in Chile. It is difficult to prove totally, because the civilizations enjoyed destroying each other. Basically, the general thought is that there have been several groups that have entered the Americas, but no one knows all of them and only have hints at a few.
Top red blob connects to the big yellow White blobs through brown Middle East. Jews aren't specifically shown but should be in either Middle Eastern or White blobs.
Bottom red blob connects to grey No Information blob, which Figure 2b shows is Hispanic aka natives to the Americas. So Hispanics are part Asian and part White, and the White influence is no doubt conquistadors and NA settlers which weren't Jewish (0.05% of US in 1790).
Pretty implausible, that would be a huge ship based migration that would not go unrecorded. the truth is that most were absorbed by Assyria and most of the rest absorbed into Judah.
Though the Lemba are interesting, they are just as easily later refugees from Judah from the Babylonian or Roman invasions. In the book of Acts, there is a person from Ethiopia reading Jewish holy books who converts to Christianity.
Most of the plains Indian tribes were monotheist though, and if they had struck up a religious conversation with a Christian who didn't know much theology, it would have taken them some time to realize they weren't talking about the same thing. The 'Native American Church', famous for rituals involving Peyote, identifies as Christian but I think generally believes they always were.
If you are interested in the topic touched upon here regarding the Northern Colonists, I BEG you to check out Frontiersmen of New York, which is a compilation of first hand information who have been affected by relations with the natives, all people in the region of Upstate New York, mostly the Finger Lakes area. My grandpa gifted this book to me instead of sitting me down and bragging to me about how based and redpilled he is, because he was classy like that.
Explains why (((schoolteachers))) so often liked to repackage their own globo-diversity shit as supposedly Indian in origin. Maybe they just liked how the savages weren't Christian and rejected attempts at conversion.
I guess my ancestors must have been savages too, makes sense. I still think its crazy my ancestors were reading/writing 400 years ago when many common people would have not had the luxury of learning to read.
I still often wonder where john wynge got the money to attend the queens college anyway. I cant imagine it would have been cheap.
The year following the excitement attending the Armada, John Wing entered Oxford University. The school was only twenty-three miles from his home. The matriculation entry is as follows: "John Wynge of Oxon, pleb, St. Alban's Hall, 15 October 1599, aged 14." And on 12 February 1603, Queen's College invested him with the degree of Bachelor of Arts.
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That the soule of a childe of God is safe, in the worst estate he can be in, in this life; but a wicked mans soule is in most danger when his estate is at best.
That the very worst that ever befell any child of God in this world, was sent of purpose to prevent the worst of all, (viz: perdition in the world to come) but the best that ever wicked man had, was but to helpe him the neerer to hell.
Its strange to read something your ancestors wrote almost 500 years ago and maybe im being retarded again, but something resonates inside of me, for sure.
Anyway, I had to setup what kind of person john wing was so you could better understand his sons who would come over to the new world looking for a better life.
Daniel wing and his brothers were asked to crack down on quaker meetings, but refused.
Daniel and Stephen Wing refused to take the oath of fidelity, not on the ground that they declined all oaths, but because this particular oath pledged them to assist in the execution of an intolerant enactment. Indeed, so generally were the laws against free worship condemned in Sandwich, that the constable was "unable to discharge his duty by reason of many disturbent persons there residing," and it was enacted that a marshal be chosen for such service in Sandwich, Barnstable, and Yarmouth. In 1658 a list was made out for the governor and other magistrates of certain persons who refused to take the oath of fidelity, and for that reason had no legal right to act as inhabitants. They were, therefore, each fined five pounds to the colony's use, and it was ordered that each and every one of them should henceforth have no power to act in any town meeting till better evidence appeared of their legal admittance, nor to claim title or interest in any town privileges as townsmen, and that no man should henceforth be admitted as inhabitant of Sandwich, or enjoy the privileges thereof, without the approbation of the church and the governor. Many were summoned to Plymouth to account for nonattendance upon public worship and fines were exacted to the amount of 660 pounds. Of these fines Daniel Wing paid not less than twelve pounds.
I say my ancestors were savages, because they had no problems living with the peaceful indians that occupied the east coast. Its strange to think that all tribes have the same beliefs.
Accordingly, in 1652, an agreement was made with Daniel Wing and Michael Blackwell for the taking of fish in Herring River, and it was ordered that Edmund Freeman, Daniel Wing and four others who are named
"shall take care of all the fish that Indians shall cut up within the limits of the town, so as to provide safely for it, and shall dispose of the fish for the town's use; also, that if any man that is an inhabitant shall find a whale and report it to any of these six men, he shall have a double, and that these six men shall take care to provide laborers and whatever is needful so that whatever whales either Indian or white man gives notice of they may dispose of the proceeds for the town's use, to be divided equally to every inhabitant.
I guess my ancestors were communist as well?
Funny enough one of the brothers was lending guns to the indians. I mean, I prolly would too if they showed us how to plant/store corn, fish, etc.....
Some apprehensions began early to be felt that the Indians of the West were hostilely inclined toward the settlers, and a law was enacted to prevent all Indians from having the use of firearms. A number of persons were complained of (about 1642) for allowing Indians to use such weapons even in hunting. Among these were the Assistant Governor Freeman and John Wing Jr for lending guns to Indians.
Without those indians, many pilgrims would have died, do they really seem that savage to you?
Some of the tribes like the Iroquois, were fucking crazy warriors though. My ancestors were lucky in that regard, there seems to be no storys of indian attacks or anything like that.
Plenty of wings, like grindall wing of putnam county, were the first white settlers in those areas and were living peacefully with the indians.
The senior Wing was possessed of only an ordinary education, but he had been reared upon a farm, and was not afraid of hard work. At that time Putnam county was largely a primitive wilderness, full of Indians, and the wild forests were thick with bears, wolves, deer and other game.
Before the government and rich people stole their shit and forced them all out on the trail of tears.
I told you guys, there is a reason I feel closer to native americans than mainstream white people.
Back when we could talk about problems without sugar coating it so much that it's just sugar and no filling. I've got a book from the later 1800s that talks about how the average freed negro would generally never be good above labor tasks and was discussing how to keep them busy lest problems arise from them being left idle. Hmm, maybe we should have continued that discussion.
I’ll take a look if I remember when I get home. It’s sort of a book that’s a collection of short (like 30 page) writings.
I've heard theories that Indians are the lost tribes of Israel. I'm not familiar enough with them to say whether I believe them or not but this post reminded me of that.
Isn't that what Mormons believe?
Yes, they believe there was a family from another tribe of Israel that had a civilization that eventually wiped itself out in the Americas. They enjoy guessing where it was, and how large they had gotten. The term Mormon comes from the historian that compiler the history of his people and had his son preserve the record before he died. Hence the Book of Mormon. It is believed that Joseph Smith found and translated this book by divine means, and then founded his faith based on what he had learned from it, both the writings and the divine help to translate.
The problem is the period in history that it happened had several civilizations wiped out, and the known origin is a shrug of the shoulder.
There were also several trade groups that were part of the Americas. Hence relatives of potatoes found in New Zealand, and chicken bones found in Chile. It is difficult to prove totally, because the civilizations enjoyed destroying each other. Basically, the general thought is that there have been several groups that have entered the Americas, but no one knows all of them and only have hints at a few.
I think it has an element of truth, if only because it’s one of the few sources to acknowledge North American giants:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FNo_dzgznNI
Israelites and talmudists are not the same.
It might be. I don't remember how where I heard it.
I think I only know that because the creator of Battlestar Galactica was inspired by the Lost Tribe Mormon theory
Based and Larson-pilled
Figure 2a has two red Asia blobs.
Top red blob connects to the big yellow White blobs through brown Middle East. Jews aren't specifically shown but should be in either Middle Eastern or White blobs.
Bottom red blob connects to grey No Information blob, which Figure 2b shows is Hispanic aka natives to the Americas. So Hispanics are part Asian and part White, and the White influence is no doubt conquistadors and NA settlers which weren't Jewish (0.05% of US in 1790).
So, not Jewish.
Pretty implausible, that would be a huge ship based migration that would not go unrecorded. the truth is that most were absorbed by Assyria and most of the rest absorbed into Judah.
Though the Lemba are interesting, they are just as easily later refugees from Judah from the Babylonian or Roman invasions. In the book of Acts, there is a person from Ethiopia reading Jewish holy books who converts to Christianity.
Most of the plains Indian tribes were monotheist though, and if they had struck up a religious conversation with a Christian who didn't know much theology, it would have taken them some time to realize they weren't talking about the same thing. The 'Native American Church', famous for rituals involving Peyote, identifies as Christian but I think generally believes they always were.
Uh... who gave the stormfags the keys to the time machine, amirite fellow gamergaters??
I am disappointed because there was basically nothing here about any indian tribe.
I'm posting an angry comment on James Adair's GoodReads page right now.
If you are interested in the topic touched upon here regarding the Northern Colonists, I BEG you to check out Frontiersmen of New York, which is a compilation of first hand information who have been affected by relations with the natives, all people in the region of Upstate New York, mostly the Finger Lakes area. My grandpa gifted this book to me instead of sitting me down and bragging to me about how based and redpilled he is, because he was classy like that.
Explains why (((schoolteachers))) so often liked to repackage their own globo-diversity shit as supposedly Indian in origin. Maybe they just liked how the savages weren't Christian and rejected attempts at conversion.
I guess my ancestors must have been savages too, makes sense. I still think its crazy my ancestors were reading/writing 400 years ago when many common people would have not had the luxury of learning to read.
I still often wonder where john wynge got the money to attend the queens college anyway. I cant imagine it would have been cheap.
Writes a sermon called, The Saints Advantage.
https://www.amazon.com/Saints-Advantage-Well-Fare-Faithfull-Preached/dp/1372812369
Its strange to read something your ancestors wrote almost 500 years ago and maybe im being retarded again, but something resonates inside of me, for sure.
Anyway, I had to setup what kind of person john wing was so you could better understand his sons who would come over to the new world looking for a better life.
Daniel wing and his brothers were asked to crack down on quaker meetings, but refused.
I say my ancestors were savages, because they had no problems living with the peaceful indians that occupied the east coast. Its strange to think that all tribes have the same beliefs.
I guess my ancestors were communist as well?
Funny enough one of the brothers was lending guns to the indians. I mean, I prolly would too if they showed us how to plant/store corn, fish, etc.....
Without those indians, many pilgrims would have died, do they really seem that savage to you?
Some of the tribes like the Iroquois, were fucking crazy warriors though. My ancestors were lucky in that regard, there seems to be no storys of indian attacks or anything like that.
Plenty of wings, like grindall wing of putnam county, were the first white settlers in those areas and were living peacefully with the indians.
Before the government and rich people stole their shit and forced them all out on the trail of tears.
I told you guys, there is a reason I feel closer to native americans than mainstream white people.
Post Reported for: Rule 16 - Identity Attacks
Post Removed: Rule 16 - Identity Attacks. This actually does seem to be mostly about asserting the inherent immorality of jews, and by virtue Indians.