Delta plane crashes in Toronto
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I will just leave this here https://www.delta.com/us/en/about-delta/diversity
They need more Eskimo pilots!
Nothing says hiring based on merit like “Skills First*” with a big ole asterisk on the DEI page of a company.
Are they doing the same with the other main airlines?
From the early reporting I just saw, it sounds like they had problem(s) with the landing, and the plane rolled over, breaking off the right wing and ending upside down. All people accounted for, and 9 injuries.
absolute miracle
This is how you know this probably wasn't dei fault
There was an Azerbaijan crash a couple weeks ago where a Russian SAM shot down an Azerbaijan airliner. Hydraulic systems were completely cut off so the pilots had to try to force a landing. Their brave attempts saved some lives - I think something like out of the 300 souls on board about 20-30 survived, which is a miracle because their crash was a completely fucking catastrophic one.
"Endeavor 4819, Toronto Tower, Wind 270 at 23 gusts 33, cleared to land runway 23."
Everything you need to know about this accident is right there in the clearance. That's 15-20 kts of crosswind. With degraded runway conditions that's pushing right up against the limits. They were probably legal to make the attempt, but not by a lot.
I learned from all these air crash investigation vids that the official term for this is "Get-There-Itis"
Instead of emphasizing safety and causing a delay because you don't think you'll make it, you instead accept the risk and try to make the landing. Then this happens.
Sounds like a horrible accident handled probably the best one could hope for. Props to the pilots for such a minimized catastrophe.
Delta doesn't fly CRJs, this was an Endeavour jet with a Delta logo painted on the side.
Crosswind with 30+ knot gusts on a shitty little airport with snowbanks off each side and the low ground clearance of the CRJ wing bites the pilots in the ass.
The media is trying to drum up fear, uncertainty and doubt about air travel because for them it's more clicks.
Pearson Airport caters to 45 million passengers per year, has five runways and two terminals. It's definitely shitty, but it's not little.
What's up with all the plane crashes in the past two months? First Jeju Air, then the AA plane, and now this? Hopefully, it's not as bad as it sounds - it says that it 'crash landed' - but it's still rather odd.
There's been quite a few more than that, but besides those big fatality events I'm not convinced it's anything more than "shark attacks on the rise" media coverage.
It seems unusual to have that many commercial flight crashes. With 5 so far this year we are on track for 24 by year's end, which would be a statistically significant deviation from the last 6 years. The AA/Blackhawk collision was the first major commercial loss of life since 2011.
Incidentally 2024's number of 18 crashes is also statistically significant.
First major commercial loss of life in the US since 2011, you mean. There have been crashes by other countries. Pretty sure a few asian airlines have gone down since, I think a passenger plane was shot down over Ukraine too.
I disagree. Last year there has been a couple crashes but nothing to something like this catastrophic.
However, last year there were a LOT of near-misses and planes clipping each other... so these crashes is obviously the end result of the misses.
Weather across eastern Canada right now is insane. Massive snow followed by very intense wind blowing it around. Far from ideal conditions to land a plane in.
Considering how instantly the media had articles ready to attack and blame it on Trump's DEI policy, the two possibilities are either its only now they care to report on an event that's always happening in the background or they are deliberately sabotaging planes to stick it to him.
Alternatively, all the major issues with lowering standards planes have been having the last few years is finally coming home to roost and they pushed it up to blame Trump.
I don't think I want to take a plane ride for a while.