Why is it so hard to just say "Infiltrate the meeting of the Jews. They are NOTORIOUS for clandestine meetings like that, that stereotype exists for a reason.
You think usury is a 'racial mode of economic thinking'?
Regardless, if you look at history, Jews who converted were treated as Christians, with some exceptions - though that is not for any racial reason, but because they (like descendants of heretics) were suspected of continuing to be Jewish and Judaizing.
Joker 2 was made as a 'fuck you' to an audience that the director/company didn't want, didn't court, and generally seemed to resent being made famous by. They still took the money, but didn't lean into it in any sense afaik.
Vavra deliberately built this audience, he catered in no uncertain terms to them, and then made this game entirely as a fuck you to those same people.
Until you are prepared to just start shooting them dead, those categorizations are necessary to be able to counter them in a society filled with normies, faggots, and and every other form of idiot you need to convince since their dollar and vote is equal to yours.
If that were true, Varva wouldn't be goading the audience like he has been. Embrasure probably pushed for the blacks and fags, but Varva tripled down with the jew shit.
Maybe, But in retrospect to the first one, it merely depicted Christianity as normal for the setting, not something innately virtuous. Authority figures of the church were all made out to be either sinful hypocrites, or dogmatic oppressors.
True. Sadly, that's a prevailing trope among the gaming industry. Unfortunately, the kind of people who dedicate their lives to making games are the "artsy" Leftist types. This is why I say that if Elon and Trump and anyone else is serious about changing the culture, they need to invest in media production, not politics.
Politics is indeed "downstream" from culture. Capture the culture and popular support will come organically. Leftist comrades won't have an audience or outlet from which to project their lies. But, alas, the Right keep making the same mistakes, thinking they can legislate morality from the barrel of a pen. It doesn't work.
Politics is still the more important of the two - even purely focusing on soft power, keeping leftists out of the school system so they can't brainwash your children is more important than keeping them out of the media.
I'm still debating what exactly did Varva put in there. My guess the ahistorical black dude and jewish quarter was done on his request/approval but the gay stuff was asked by embracer.
He mentioned he specifically wanted Musa guy in. I first thought he wanted him in to highlight how out of place a black guy would be in those times, the exception that confirms the rule but apparently he just hates his own history and wants to humiliate it as much as possible.
Yep, said black guy does nothing but demean slavic and Christian culture and since he's flagged as an essential character you can't cave his skull in witch a mace.
I mean, why go for the most out there explanation? Someone who hated his own history wouldn't have made the first game. Isn't it far more likely that he was pressured by his publisher, or (less likely in my judgment) he wants to avoid the criticism that the first game received?
Or he simply changed his mind at one point and joined the anti-European crowd.
My current theory is that the company grew and his friend group increased as to have a lot more leftiests. Leftists in person are not like online, they can be very persuasive and if you don't have a strong opinion I can see him changing his mind to be part of the "superior" crowd.
The Musa guy is to much in your face. The publisher can tell him to include it but he chose how to. I think the gay part of Henry was something that was asked for but the enlightened mud-hut dwelling cannibals is all how he wanted to do it and it looks like his entire point is to humiliate Bohemia.
Very much how white leftists joke about themselves, "our food is so bland' or "we can't dance, hehe" etc..
Or he simply changed his mind at one point and joined the anti-European crowd.
That is also possible. But generally, I'd say that people's minds follow their interests. So he changed his mind so that his publisher didn't have to tell him.
Leftists in person are not like online, they can be very persuasive and if you don't have a strong opinion I can see him changing his mind to be part of the "superior" crowd.
I guess they've never tried to persuade me, because they never seemed persuasive to me. All it is, is regurgitation of conventional wisdom, and when you do a diplomatic counter, they concede that it's a good point. Guess they may be more normies than leftists. Also, this guy is supposedly in the Czech Republic (or did he move?). There isn't a strong pro-black, pro-homosexual lobby there.
The Musa guy is to much in your face. The publisher can tell him to include it but he chose how to.
While I was looking through his T, I stumbled on his defense. He says that Musa's unusual presence results in interesting interactions. I can imagine that he thought: hey, this adds to the story and helps publishers off my back, to justify the historical inaccuracy.
Very much how white leftists joke about themselves, "our food is so bland' or "we can't dance, hehe" etc..
I don't like that I'm having to sound like a full-blown defensder of this game, but isn't it reasonable coming from a guy who does like a lot of spices? Don't get me started on the food when I was in Japan. But I love the place.
While I was looking through his T, I stumbled on his defense. He says that Musa's unusual presence results in interesting interactions. I can imagine that he thought: hey, this adds to the story and helps publishers off my back, to justify the historical inaccuracy.
I think this is correct but choosing to make it a humiliation ritual for his own country it was entirely his choice.
As an idea, if I go to a country that I hate the food I'm not going to just tell them your food sucks. That in itself is forced, even more forced considering Mali had human women as a delicacy. Also the idea of spice is interesting since a lot of eastern european countries do and did use alternative for spices like garlic or basil. A white guy in Europe is going to be much more self-deprecating about his food then a foreigner. Hence why it is a self insert from a writer to "lecture" people.
I think this is correct but choosing to make it a humiliation ritual for his own country it was entirely his choice.
Honestly, the extent to which whites get offended by 'spices' and blacks get offended by 'fried chicken and watermelons' will never cease to surprise me. It's the most innocuous thing possible!
That said...
As an idea, if I go to a country that I hate the food I'm not going to just tell them your food sucks.
Fair point. Someone else also made a great point, that this is probably a great 21th century anachronism.
It does seem to me that people are overreacting just a bit. Maybe they feel betrayed because we loved the first version so much and considered him to be one of us. What I don't like is the personal attacks. Criticism is good, and it might even work to the advantage of anti-woke.
That in itself is forced, even more forced considering Mali had human women as a delicacy. Also
Maybe women are very tasty, and pig knee sucks in comparison. I can't say I've had the former culinary experience.
That term didn't fucking exist back then.
Why is it so hard to just say "Infiltrate the meeting of the Jews. They are NOTORIOUS for clandestine meetings like that, that stereotype exists for a reason.
"Write what you know" is classic advice oft given to novice authors.
Guess who the lead writer is?
I'm half hoping we see "incel", "bigot" and "racist" thrown in there, bonus points for "homophobe"
Skibidi ohio rizz fam.
KCD3 will see us hunting down toxic gamers.
KCD3 is already out under the title Dustborn
That entire concept didn't exist. People who did, disliked the Jews for their religion, not for their ethnicity.
TIL that usury is part of the jewish religion and not a racial mode of economic thinking
You think usury is a 'racial mode of economic thinking'?
Regardless, if you look at history, Jews who converted were treated as Christians, with some exceptions - though that is not for any racial reason, but because they (like descendants of heretics) were suspected of continuing to be Jewish and Judaizing.
Usury is also a sin in Judaism, they just are allowed to do it to non Jews. It technically is a religious and racial economic mode.
meeting of the Jews goes kind of hard for some reason.
As u/Kaarous said, this isn't a game. It's a humiliation ritual for anyone that liked the first game. Joker 2 is another prime example.
Warhorse was essentially hijacked by another anti-Western, anti-Christian VC firm with the intent of vandalizing the game.
Joker 2 was made as a 'fuck you' to an audience that the director/company didn't want, didn't court, and generally seemed to resent being made famous by. They still took the money, but didn't lean into it in any sense afaik.
Vavra deliberately built this audience, he catered in no uncertain terms to them, and then made this game entirely as a fuck you to those same people.
One of those is far more malicious than the other
A distinction without a difference. They are both faggots
There is absolutely a difference, and failing to understand their motivations will leave you constantly underprepared for their machinations.
Lol or just don't care about their faggotry.
Yoy don't need to be obsessed with categorizing faggots to be able to counter their BS.
Until you are prepared to just start shooting them dead, those categorizations are necessary to be able to counter them in a society filled with normies, faggots, and and every other form of idiot you need to convince since their dollar and vote is equal to yours.
If that were true, Varva wouldn't be goading the audience like he has been. Embrasure probably pushed for the blacks and fags, but Varva tripled down with the jew shit.
I'm confused by your post. You start off disagreeing but then end by agreeing?
I'm saying Varva shares as much of the blame as Embrasure. Even if Warhorse were still independent, the jew shit would probably still be in it.
Oh, of course. But I disagree that it would have been this bad had they remained independent.
Maybe, But in retrospect to the first one, it merely depicted Christianity as normal for the setting, not something innately virtuous. Authority figures of the church were all made out to be either sinful hypocrites, or dogmatic oppressors.
True. Sadly, that's a prevailing trope among the gaming industry. Unfortunately, the kind of people who dedicate their lives to making games are the "artsy" Leftist types. This is why I say that if Elon and Trump and anyone else is serious about changing the culture, they need to invest in media production, not politics.
Politics is indeed "downstream" from culture. Capture the culture and popular support will come organically. Leftist comrades won't have an audience or outlet from which to project their lies. But, alas, the Right keep making the same mistakes, thinking they can legislate morality from the barrel of a pen. It doesn't work.
Politics is still the more important of the two - even purely focusing on soft power, keeping leftists out of the school system so they can't brainwash your children is more important than keeping them out of the media.
there were gay characters in the first one too.
But not Henry, and Varva previously rebuked the idea of making Henry gay when asked.
I'm still debating what exactly did Varva put in there. My guess the ahistorical black dude and jewish quarter was done on his request/approval but the gay stuff was asked by embracer.
He mentioned he specifically wanted Musa guy in. I first thought he wanted him in to highlight how out of place a black guy would be in those times, the exception that confirms the rule but apparently he just hates his own history and wants to humiliate it as much as possible.
Yep, said black guy does nothing but demean slavic and Christian culture and since he's flagged as an essential character you can't cave his skull in witch a mace.
I mean, why go for the most out there explanation? Someone who hated his own history wouldn't have made the first game. Isn't it far more likely that he was pressured by his publisher, or (less likely in my judgment) he wants to avoid the criticism that the first game received?
Or he simply changed his mind at one point and joined the anti-European crowd.
My current theory is that the company grew and his friend group increased as to have a lot more leftiests. Leftists in person are not like online, they can be very persuasive and if you don't have a strong opinion I can see him changing his mind to be part of the "superior" crowd.
The Musa guy is to much in your face. The publisher can tell him to include it but he chose how to. I think the gay part of Henry was something that was asked for but the enlightened mud-hut dwelling cannibals is all how he wanted to do it and it looks like his entire point is to humiliate Bohemia.
Very much how white leftists joke about themselves, "our food is so bland' or "we can't dance, hehe" etc..
That is also possible. But generally, I'd say that people's minds follow their interests. So he changed his mind so that his publisher didn't have to tell him.
I guess they've never tried to persuade me, because they never seemed persuasive to me. All it is, is regurgitation of conventional wisdom, and when you do a diplomatic counter, they concede that it's a good point. Guess they may be more normies than leftists. Also, this guy is supposedly in the Czech Republic (or did he move?). There isn't a strong pro-black, pro-homosexual lobby there.
While I was looking through his T, I stumbled on his defense. He says that Musa's unusual presence results in interesting interactions. I can imagine that he thought: hey, this adds to the story and helps publishers off my back, to justify the historical inaccuracy.
I don't like that I'm having to sound like a full-blown defensder of this game, but isn't it reasonable coming from a guy who does like a lot of spices? Don't get me started on the food when I was in Japan. But I love the place.
I think this is correct but choosing to make it a humiliation ritual for his own country it was entirely his choice.
As an idea, if I go to a country that I hate the food I'm not going to just tell them your food sucks. That in itself is forced, even more forced considering Mali had human women as a delicacy. Also the idea of spice is interesting since a lot of eastern european countries do and did use alternative for spices like garlic or basil. A white guy in Europe is going to be much more self-deprecating about his food then a foreigner. Hence why it is a self insert from a writer to "lecture" people.
Honestly, the extent to which whites get offended by 'spices' and blacks get offended by 'fried chicken and watermelons' will never cease to surprise me. It's the most innocuous thing possible!
That said...
Fair point. Someone else also made a great point, that this is probably a great 21th century anachronism.
It does seem to me that people are overreacting just a bit. Maybe they feel betrayed because we loved the first version so much and considered him to be one of us. What I don't like is the personal attacks. Criticism is good, and it might even work to the advantage of anti-woke.
Maybe women are very tasty, and pig knee sucks in comparison. I can't say I've had the former culinary experience.
This is rapidly approaching and surpassing TLOU2 levels of fuckery.
So, if all the degeneracy in this game is just player agency, then surely player agency permits the polar opposites actions, right?
Surely you can smear queers and organize pogroms.