whilst i agree with most of what she said, i have to roll my eyes with the "muh woman's rights" comment. This bitch still doesn't get that her woman's rights movement is what led to trannies in the first place.
If she's just talking about women's rights to have their own restrooms and locker rooms, I'm all on board with that. Seriously. I did some time as a janitor, and the women's rooms were always ten times nastier than the men's rooms. They're welcome to them.
true and it isn't just the notion of language, but the lack of awareness of cause-effect.
I mean its like finding out people were killed in the middle of a tiger infested forest, as they didn't lock their linen tent, and the person in the video is focusing on the lack of locks, instead of walking into the forest in the first place.
Its a direct line from women being having the right to vote, to what we're seeing today. Each step, almost mandated by the one before it. I understand it isn't even the first time in history such a path was taken, after woman being given equal rights.
Im not saying women shouldn't have rights, just that there does seem to be an obvious path that society's go down, once they do.
the women's rooms were always ten times nastier than the men's rooms
worked "maintenance" at walmart for two and a half years, and I can confirm. sorry ladies, but those little garbage cans for your 'sanitary' devices in every stall are foul...the fact that we didn't even get some kind of liner for them made it worse.
Are you envisioning a world where you never take your family to a restaurant, movie, sporting event, concert, amusement park, beach, swimming pool, campground, etc. etc.?
It was hyperbole about how few fucks I give about "women's rights" any more. I have had enough of women framing every societal problem as solely affecting women. I am getting to the point that I fully support making them shut the fuck up and giving them something to actually complain about.
If you haven't realised this is the hallmark of a TERF by now there might be no helping you, and the womanly insult at the end doesn't help either (you forgot to add 'incel').
Since the turn of the millennium, three significant things happened with the trans movement. First, an explosion in male-to-female transgenderism, fuelled by demonisation of masculinity in general by intersectional feminists and psychotic misandrist munchausen's mothers. Feminist women like the one in the vid said nothing, in fact they generally cheered it on as a dismantling of the 'social construct' of gender. There was some innate feminist resentment of trannies since the era of Dworkin and Greer who hate all men enough to call trannies out, but the new phenomenon wasn't hurting anyone but boys, so fuck it, they kept schtum and didn't cause much of a progressive rift.
Second - although chronology overlaps with the third - feminist lies started getting through to the female youth and they bought into the lie that men had it so much better, while women get raped all the time. So, they started cutting their tits off and female-to-male transgenderism exploded - again usually with the approval of parents who were good progressive allies. Feminists started to sweat a bit at this one and there was some pushback because the minority of unretarded feminists started to realise their ideology was destroying women, but still to out yourself at this time was to be considered a poor ally, so most kept quiet. Notice she doesn't even mention female-to-male trans children in the vid, even though it is the more current and bigger issue. It's not the most pressing issue to her, what she most cares about is the third thing that happened.
The third part is that the first massive wave of mutilated boys grew up into warped perverts and started to want to use women's bathrooms and compete with women in sports. Suddenly this is too much for feminists. Women's rights are at stake! And finally after all these years of waiting we can blame it... on men! Suddenly there's a great revival in the acerbic feminism of the older times, now the chickens are coming home to roost. What seems to annoy her is that the parents of trans kids - who should be good progressive allies and do what she wants - don't support 'women's rights' (ie. the ability to tell a tranny to stay out of the bathroom).
It's a complete disconnection of cause and effect, and when a terf really gets ranting you'll always see a reversal of original victim and offender, once masculinity in general comes into the crosshairs again. 'All of this happened because women's rights weren't protected enough.'
The link between Feminism and the Trans movement goes back much further than that. As you mentioned, the fundamental lie of feminism is that gender is not linked to biological sex. That is the basis for the feminist claim that women and men are essentially the same, share all of the same capabilities and desires, and that consequently the societal divisions between the sexes are entirely socially constructed and purely a result of "muh soggy knees" and discrimination.
To even acknowledge the fact that the biological differences between men and women exist and necessarily lead to differences in behavior and preferences is to undermine the entire framework of feminist ideology. So they continue to insist that there is no such difference, while at the same time shrieking that biological males must never be allowed into women's spaces and refusing to acknowledge that the ideological nonsense underpinning their entire movement is exactly what made the Trans Trend possible in the first place.
Without the medical and scientific institutionalization of the feminist idea that gender is not linked to biology, there would never have been a trans movement.
At the same time, it is the never-ending feminist denigration and demonization of men and masculinity which "trans-women" are attempting to escape by deciding that they no longer wish to be men. And I am convinced that what lies at the heart of the TERF's revulsion for the trans movement is not the men in women's spaces, but the very idea that there can be any route through which a man can escape his role as the Ultimate Evil Oppressor of Women and thereby sidestep her infantile resentment and eschew his share of the blame for her problems.
Women like this consequently bear just as much responsibility for the "social contagion" that she derides, and for the horrifying consequences of it, as the parents who have transed their own children. She is the very thing that she rails against in this video, and shares that same inability to ever admit or acknowledge it.
Couldn't have said it better. I only focus on recent decades to try and describe the point where it seems to have tipped over and caused the whole social contagion thing (which probably required the internet too).
I've never seen this woman before, but everything she said in the video is legit. That's it. I'm sure you incels have all the time in the world to learn about and keep track of every feminist speaker in existence. Because you "don't care about women," of course. You know who all these women are, even the most obscure OF models, because you "can't be bothered with women" while you and the boys are bench pressing 9,000 ... right? It's like you're wannabe "Nazi hunters," tracking the feminists every move or exposing them to the world!
Really, I hope you had fun typing up that college thesis, 'cause I didn't read it. 🤣
Evidently plenty of others did. Keep on seething and simping for wrinkly man-haters and we'll keep using it as an opportunity to set the record straight for non-retards, cheers.
All you incels chuds travel in packs, upvoting any turd you cough up. Again, I don't know who the woman is, but everything she said in the video is legit. Isn't that the reason it was posted?
Why are you still asking questions when all the answers you need are in the text you're afraid to read. There is no more explanatory value in rebutting you, just post something cringey again then stfu.
Same reason why Abortion is pushed so hard as a social good. Coming to terms with the fact that it's murder means coming to terms with the fact that you've murdered your own children. Often repeatedly.
I’ve used this point in real life discussions. Abortion is an existential issue for liberal women because the alternative is accepting their own culpability in the greatest mass murder (by several orders of magnitude) in recorded history.
I also think that the widespread mental illness among liberal women is a product of the cognitive dissonance that results from their inability to reconcile an undeniable biological imperative to procreate versus their “rational” support for baby murder.
Abortion is a social good. Maybe not morally good according to some, but having unwanted children around is not a good thing. For them or for us. Who wants to grow up without parents? Religious nuts seem to think life is some sort of gift that's never to be questioned. But then they do honestly believe in a magical sky wizard so their judgement can't be trusted.
Sad that the Christians are the only 'sane' whites around. They're crazy but they can hold down a job.
Years ago some YouTuber like The Quartering had a scene from that show, "I Am Jazz." And this scene was the mother talking about telling her child to dilate their pretend pussy or she would stick a dildo up there herself. And she's giggling and sharing this with her wine friends like it's normal.
These people would sacrifice their children to their new progressive god for the furthering of the faith, than protect their child. The splintering of the mind of these people must be gigantic.
I unsubbed from The Quartering a month or so ago because I got tired of all the constant grifting and all the safe, vanilla takes.
The follower function actually works decently on YT & Rumble, because I saw one of his thumbnails yesterday and I realized I'd actually forgot about his existence.
Sunken cost fallacy NEEDS to be understood more in society than the slippery slop fallacy as the latter seems to not be that much of a fallacy.
These parents are in too deep to get out and in truth need to be isolated possibly have the kids raised by a good Foster family so that THE KID can recover at least a little.
as the latter seems to not be that much of a fallacy
It was never a fallacy in the way leftoids liked to claim in order to deflect. They would have you believe that long chains of cause and effect do not exist because it's inconvenient for them. The reason its an informal fallacy is because merely saying "A therefore Z" does nothing to prove why it is so.
The problem in the context of political discussions is those types of things are generally impossible to empirically prove. You either get it or you don't, so leftists either flat out don't understand or just feign ignorance.
IDK if sunken cost sums it up, but it's applicable everywhere from trans issues, progressive cultism in general, circumcision, and very much applicable to vaxx stuff... It's an enormous problem.
While chewing on it I keep coming to the conclusion that the only real solution to these dynamics requires a public acknowledgement that not all people are born equal, that some require the guiding hand of moral shepherds, sometimes for their whole lives. Also that the victims of widespread ideological abuses like this unfortunately may need to be removed from the discussion of how to solve it. It's the same thing as having an abuse victim who covers for their molester, or even helps them acquire new victims, but on a massive scale.
A couple of serial killers, a reflection upon society by 'those in charge', and a reduction in historical merit, later and we'll all be calling these people monsters - and those who didn't oppose them hard enough somehow complicit with it all.
There's no getting out of any of it once they have their pincers in.
When this next round of communism fails, and it will, it will be men and women building society back up and just waiting for the next go against them because a good foundation allows crap to exist. Nothing to be done about it apart from try to minimise the harm done.
whilst i agree with most of what she said, i have to roll my eyes with the "muh woman's rights" comment. This bitch still doesn't get that her woman's rights movement is what led to trannies in the first place.
If she's just talking about women's rights to have their own restrooms and locker rooms, I'm all on board with that. Seriously. I did some time as a janitor, and the women's rooms were always ten times nastier than the men's rooms. They're welcome to them.
i know what she's talking about but i would prefer if she didn't use leftist language
true and it isn't just the notion of language, but the lack of awareness of cause-effect.
I mean its like finding out people were killed in the middle of a tiger infested forest, as they didn't lock their linen tent, and the person in the video is focusing on the lack of locks, instead of walking into the forest in the first place.
Its a direct line from women being having the right to vote, to what we're seeing today. Each step, almost mandated by the one before it. I understand it isn't even the first time in history such a path was taken, after woman being given equal rights.
Im not saying women shouldn't have rights, just that there does seem to be an obvious path that society's go down, once they do.
Cause - Effect.
worked "maintenance" at walmart for two and a half years, and I can confirm. sorry ladies, but those little garbage cans for your 'sanitary' devices in every stall are foul...the fact that we didn't even get some kind of liner for them made it worse.
They can get their restrooms back when men and kids get all what's been taken from them back.
Kitchens don't need locker rooms, and public women's restrooms should be limited to only being in grocery stores.
Are you envisioning a world where you never take your family to a restaurant, movie, sporting event, concert, amusement park, beach, swimming pool, campground, etc. etc.?
It was hyperbole about how few fucks I give about "women's rights" any more. I have had enough of women framing every societal problem as solely affecting women. I am getting to the point that I fully support making them shut the fuck up and giving them something to actually complain about.
Repeal the 19th. Make them property.
she clearly wants discrimination against men and boys because of the crime of being born.
But bad people also make good points.
I've seen the video three times now. How the fuck did you get that from ANYTHING she said?
Honestly, it's not hard to see why so many people consider you pathetic c/MGTOW losers as potential mass shooters. Y'all ain't right!
If you haven't realised this is the hallmark of a TERF by now there might be no helping you, and the womanly insult at the end doesn't help either (you forgot to add 'incel').
Since the turn of the millennium, three significant things happened with the trans movement. First, an explosion in male-to-female transgenderism, fuelled by demonisation of masculinity in general by intersectional feminists and psychotic misandrist munchausen's mothers. Feminist women like the one in the vid said nothing, in fact they generally cheered it on as a dismantling of the 'social construct' of gender. There was some innate feminist resentment of trannies since the era of Dworkin and Greer who hate all men enough to call trannies out, but the new phenomenon wasn't hurting anyone but boys, so fuck it, they kept schtum and didn't cause much of a progressive rift.
Second - although chronology overlaps with the third - feminist lies started getting through to the female youth and they bought into the lie that men had it so much better, while women get raped all the time. So, they started cutting their tits off and female-to-male transgenderism exploded - again usually with the approval of parents who were good progressive allies. Feminists started to sweat a bit at this one and there was some pushback because the minority of unretarded feminists started to realise their ideology was destroying women, but still to out yourself at this time was to be considered a poor ally, so most kept quiet. Notice she doesn't even mention female-to-male trans children in the vid, even though it is the more current and bigger issue. It's not the most pressing issue to her, what she most cares about is the third thing that happened.
The third part is that the first massive wave of mutilated boys grew up into warped perverts and started to want to use women's bathrooms and compete with women in sports. Suddenly this is too much for feminists. Women's rights are at stake! And finally after all these years of waiting we can blame it... on men! Suddenly there's a great revival in the acerbic feminism of the older times, now the chickens are coming home to roost. What seems to annoy her is that the parents of trans kids - who should be good progressive allies and do what she wants - don't support 'women's rights' (ie. the ability to tell a tranny to stay out of the bathroom).
It's a complete disconnection of cause and effect, and when a terf really gets ranting you'll always see a reversal of original victim and offender, once masculinity in general comes into the crosshairs again. 'All of this happened because women's rights weren't protected enough.'
The link between Feminism and the Trans movement goes back much further than that. As you mentioned, the fundamental lie of feminism is that gender is not linked to biological sex. That is the basis for the feminist claim that women and men are essentially the same, share all of the same capabilities and desires, and that consequently the societal divisions between the sexes are entirely socially constructed and purely a result of "muh soggy knees" and discrimination.
To even acknowledge the fact that the biological differences between men and women exist and necessarily lead to differences in behavior and preferences is to undermine the entire framework of feminist ideology. So they continue to insist that there is no such difference, while at the same time shrieking that biological males must never be allowed into women's spaces and refusing to acknowledge that the ideological nonsense underpinning their entire movement is exactly what made the Trans Trend possible in the first place.
Without the medical and scientific institutionalization of the feminist idea that gender is not linked to biology, there would never have been a trans movement.
At the same time, it is the never-ending feminist denigration and demonization of men and masculinity which "trans-women" are attempting to escape by deciding that they no longer wish to be men. And I am convinced that what lies at the heart of the TERF's revulsion for the trans movement is not the men in women's spaces, but the very idea that there can be any route through which a man can escape his role as the Ultimate Evil Oppressor of Women and thereby sidestep her infantile resentment and eschew his share of the blame for her problems.
Women like this consequently bear just as much responsibility for the "social contagion" that she derides, and for the horrifying consequences of it, as the parents who have transed their own children. She is the very thing that she rails against in this video, and shares that same inability to ever admit or acknowledge it.
Couldn't have said it better. I only focus on recent decades to try and describe the point where it seems to have tipped over and caused the whole social contagion thing (which probably required the internet too).
I've never seen this woman before, but everything she said in the video is legit. That's it. I'm sure you incels have all the time in the world to learn about and keep track of every feminist speaker in existence. Because you "don't care about women," of course. You know who all these women are, even the most obscure OF models, because you "can't be bothered with women" while you and the boys are bench pressing 9,000 ... right? It's like you're wannabe "Nazi hunters," tracking the feminists every move or exposing them to the world!
Really, I hope you had fun typing up that college thesis, 'cause I didn't read it. 🤣
Evidently plenty of others did. Keep on seething and simping for wrinkly man-haters and we'll keep using it as an opportunity to set the record straight for non-retards, cheers.
All you incels chuds travel in packs, upvoting any turd you cough up. Again, I don't know who the woman is, but everything she said in the video is legit. Isn't that the reason it was posted?
Why are you still asking questions when all the answers you need are in the text you're afraid to read. There is no more explanatory value in rebutting you, just post something cringey again then stfu.
The enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend. The FR in TERF means she opposes both troons and men in general.
“muh women’s rights” = abortion
Same reason why Abortion is pushed so hard as a social good. Coming to terms with the fact that it's murder means coming to terms with the fact that you've murdered your own children. Often repeatedly.
I’ve used this point in real life discussions. Abortion is an existential issue for liberal women because the alternative is accepting their own culpability in the greatest mass murder (by several orders of magnitude) in recorded history.
I also think that the widespread mental illness among liberal women is a product of the cognitive dissonance that results from their inability to reconcile an undeniable biological imperative to procreate versus their “rational” support for baby murder.
Abortion is a social good. Maybe not morally good according to some, but having unwanted children around is not a good thing. For them or for us. Who wants to grow up without parents? Religious nuts seem to think life is some sort of gift that's never to be questioned. But then they do honestly believe in a magical sky wizard so their judgement can't be trusted.
Sad that the Christians are the only 'sane' whites around. They're crazy but they can hold down a job.
Years ago some YouTuber like The Quartering had a scene from that show, "I Am Jazz." And this scene was the mother talking about telling her child to dilate their pretend pussy or she would stick a dildo up there herself. And she's giggling and sharing this with her wine friends like it's normal.
These people would sacrifice their children to their new progressive god for the furthering of the faith, than protect their child. The splintering of the mind of these people must be gigantic.
NOTHING these monster munchausen moms do or say is ever criticized.
Listen to how they are cheered for having a trans kid : https://x.com/scarlett4kids/status/1886657000903180518
Step 1 - bored wine moms start looking at their CIS sons and daughters today and dreaming of this praise
Step 2 - ????
Step 3 - Facebook likes.
I unsubbed from The Quartering a month or so ago because I got tired of all the constant grifting and all the safe, vanilla takes.
The follower function actually works decently on YT & Rumble, because I saw one of his thumbnails yesterday and I realized I'd actually forgot about his existence.
Sunken cost fallacy NEEDS to be understood more in society than the slippery slop fallacy as the latter seems to not be that much of a fallacy.
These parents are in too deep to get out and in truth need to be isolated possibly have the kids raised by a good Foster family so that THE KID can recover at least a little.
It was never a fallacy in the way leftoids liked to claim in order to deflect. They would have you believe that long chains of cause and effect do not exist because it's inconvenient for them. The reason its an informal fallacy is because merely saying "A therefore Z" does nothing to prove why it is so.
The problem in the context of political discussions is those types of things are generally impossible to empirically prove. You either get it or you don't, so leftists either flat out don't understand or just feign ignorance.
IDK if sunken cost sums it up, but it's applicable everywhere from trans issues, progressive cultism in general, circumcision, and very much applicable to vaxx stuff... It's an enormous problem.
While chewing on it I keep coming to the conclusion that the only real solution to these dynamics requires a public acknowledgement that not all people are born equal, that some require the guiding hand of moral shepherds, sometimes for their whole lives. Also that the victims of widespread ideological abuses like this unfortunately may need to be removed from the discussion of how to solve it. It's the same thing as having an abuse victim who covers for their molester, or even helps them acquire new victims, but on a massive scale.
I know this is not news to anyone here.
But lovely to see it eloquently phrased that anyone outside the trans bubble will accept
A couple of serial killers, a reflection upon society by 'those in charge', and a reduction in historical merit, later and we'll all be calling these people monsters - and those who didn't oppose them hard enough somehow complicit with it all.
There's no getting out of any of it once they have their pincers in.
When this next round of communism fails, and it will, it will be men and women building society back up and just waiting for the next go against them because a good foundation allows crap to exist. Nothing to be done about it apart from try to minimise the harm done.
Paging Elon Musk.
It's a multi billion dollar business now. Now greed fuels it as much as crazy lib moms
Until one of their children turns really angry and skins and mutilates and murders their own parents.. That is the point where it will change.