I don’t consider myself an avid historian of Slavic exchanges historically but at least from everything I know it’s patently absurd to somehow implant a Mali Muslim into the service of a king who was directly involved in the crusades against the Ottoman Empire. From Varva:
6/10 The game takes place in one of the richest cities in Europe which was besieged by a massive foreign army. That´s the reason why the life in such a city is more diverse than the life in villages which were featured in the first game. 7/10 Musa came to Bohemia with an invading army as a member of the royal court of King Sigismund, whom he met thanks to his engagement at the court of Sultan Bayezid. He's an educated noble and renaissance man from the Kingdom of Mali.
So King Sigismund, a Hapsburg and king of Hungary, who was at war with bohemian Hussites (heretics) and was fighting a religious war supposedly hired a black Muslim retainer from an engagement with a sultan… who was already and repeatedly at war with the king and trying to take his claims in Hungary. Not only this but Sigismund was repeatedly engaged in the crusades against the ottomans and was notorious for fighting “heretics” and advancing Catholicism. How is any of that supposed to make sense?
NEEDS MORE NIGS! AND GAY SHIT! PUT SOME GAY SHIT IN IT FR!
Listen, you don't HAVE to play the gay shit if you don't want but they HAVE to put it in the game to continue to receive funding...
What I don't like is how this is a big shift in direction. Before he said that without proof of black people in Bohemia during early 15 century it makes no sense to have them. Now we're back to you can't prove there wasn't a black guy medic serving King Sigismund that no one recorded bull shit.
Are we suppose to pretend this was an organic change and not one done for diversity?
Everything about the changes scream forced diversity. “There was gay people in the 1400s”, there was rape, pederasty, bestiality, and mass hedonism too. Were literally talking about the exact same time frame as Gille de Rais in France, one of the most notorious serial killers and child rapists in history who also was a icon of the Black Sabbath, occultism, and satanism. This would be far more interesting of a take, but somehow we got “hidden gay lust”. It’s literally the intro to tropic thunder with RDJ as a gay priest.
"But two gay people existed in KCD 1 so this is a non-issue."
That just shows that there must be zero tolerance for faggotry in media.
He sold out. Simple as that.
And now he pretends, either to sooth his own conscience or to salvage this disaster, that it all happened "organically" and not because he wants another sports car.
Hes a juden its looking more like he is shape shifting to redirect the anti woke crowd. Even plays with guns to seal the based™ (((white))) conservative angle.
Good question. What I was wondering. Mansa Musa had a massive amount of slaves. If he shows that I’d be surprised
As far as I can tell that is not Mansa Musa himself but a medic from Mali that was working for Sultan Bayezid at the time and got recruited by King Sigmund.
It stretches a bit the suspension of disbelief but not that much. The problem is that it comes during a time where people are fed up with pushing things for the sake of diversity and always on white cultures. It does not help that the lead dev put himself as based.
Even worse is that the main character used to be straight in KGD 1 with little to no room to doubt it, he checks out women and not boys and can have relations only with women. But now he is apparently bi as you can follow a gay relation . This makes the bromance/ camaraderie from the first one a bit iffy to say the least and changing a characters sexuality for diversity is woke no matter what.
If this was Larian studios it would have been what ever but when the main dev sets himself up as being based is normal for people to feel betrayed.
You nailed that on the head. I can’t blame anyone for being tired of this forced inclusion in every game. I guess at least they give you a choice unlike with something like last of us where you are forced to be gay, but I get what you are saying. I got the first game even though I don’t like first person. Will wait to hear about this one
Just as an update, the game is showing as LGBTQ+ tagged successfully
This will do wonders for the game
I fucking love the Steam community.
Play Cuckdom Came so a nugger slave owner can teach you how to treat women well.
Guess they didn’t learn anything from the disaster that was/is Yasuke.
Believe it or not, that turd still isn't out yet. I keep thinking it came and went too. But no, March 20, 2025.
Until then, the AAA industry is going to pretend that it's gold and it's a vocal minority complaining.
Ubisoft is shitting its pants watching their stock value and reputation crash, hoping that if they push the release far enough, people will forget the ''controversy'' of them rewriting Japanese history to make-up a black samurai main character.
Their non-apology with the lie of ''well, you see this is historically debated...'' was recieved extremely poorly ( except by woke journoids ).
Something hilarious to me is that with all these hoops they jump through to "justify" including a completely normal black person in these medieval stories, they're really driving home the fact that seeing a person like that would be completely out of the ordinary for the average joes of the time. It's something that cannot be brushed off as "business as usual" and would invite stares, questions, threats, all KINDS of potential interesting interactions, both good and bad. It's basically an Isekai situation.
And yet, they try to write the characters as "normal." Because being scared/fascinated by the differences of other people you've never seen before is obviously racist, and we can't have that, now can we.
Reminds me of super diverse period pieces you see today and how they twist themselves into knots trying to justify how ridiculous it looks
''History was a whitewash''
~Doctor Woke, visiting 1800 London full of blacks.
Oh yea. Since that was my first experience with it, it didn’t register but that was the last season of Dr Who I watched. His companion who couldn’t shut up about being a lesbian was another reason
that's right. a foreign siege leads to diversity. as if that's something you're happy about as a villager.
anyways.. glad he's an educated noble and avid jogger from a land locked mudbrick shithole.
If indeed they do have Mansa Musa, will they show his massive number of slaves? Also did he go that far into Europe? I thought he did some trade in the Middle East
No it is not the Mansa Musa, just someone called musa from mali.
Ohhh. Ok
Musa never stepped foot into Europe, he did famously make the pilgrimage to Mecca however. This appears to be a different fictional Musa though.
Ok. Thats what I thought. I remember reading about his pilgrimage and his massive amount of gold and slaves. I’m really disappointed With them. Feels like they bent the knee
When they reach this far and drag you into the reasoning, you know you lost.
Why dont they use this reasoning to include Mongols or an Ottoman. Or a ginger Arab (they exist). Or a paraplegic, or plague, a lion, or an elephant warrior.
But no its an African and Henry is gay.
There's a big push to make sure whites have zero pure cultural icons in modern day entertainment, especially historical setpieces. It's a very big part of Marxism to subvert and destroy the collective memory of their enemies. To keep an enemy demoralized with no standard to gather around.
Notice how such pushes for inclusion is NEVER applied across the board. It should always be treated as an attack, and is treated as such when the "diversity" is aimed anywhere else (eg how Egypt reacted to the blackwashing of Cleopatra in a Netflix series)
This isn’t all a rumor? This is actually in the game?
Yes from varva himself
This is not the win you think it is, Dan.
This flies in the face of the character's actions in the first game.
"A bunch of foreigners have laid siege to our city. Let's let this guy from an even more foreign culture hang out and do whatever he wants."-Said no city in that era ever
This also leads us to...
I reiterate my points from number six.
Number six again. Also, oh goodie, the worship continues.
Pressing X to doubt at this point.
"You know how SJWs are bad? Does anyone else think antisjws are just as bad" etc. dot-j-p-g.
It isn't. Just consoom it, bigot!
Hopefully he's jus as vulnerable as Johanka. You lose out on several quests if you outright murder her as soon as you get the chance, but it can be done.
What's personally annoying to me is that I can guarantee every NPC in the game will probably react as if seeing a black African knight from Mali is an every day occurance.
No one will stop to stare at him. No one will ask questions. No one will whisper rumors. No one will be afraid of him. No one will ask if his skin color is real or if he's covered in tar or suffering from an illness or curse. Everyone will just react like it was modern New York.
Or even if they do acknowledge his differences, the "good" townspeople will be totally fine and accepting of him being there, and only "bad" people won't like him or be suspicious.
Putting a feminist black muslim in Medieval Europe is inexusable. Woke cancer infested the host studio.
Making the character you play ''player-sexual'' wouldn't be a red flag, except he was straight in KCD1.
Since first point above, we can assume he was made player-sexual for woke reasons too.
Y'all just ignorant.
I may be ignorant on many things but I am glad I am not as retarded as people like that.
He couldn't make a short trip across the Atlantic, but somehow we're supposed to believe that they could easily have made it much further to Bohemia.
What does that even mean? Did he, or didn't he?
The fact that there might have been an African explorer who set sail across the Atlantic (or not; he only possibly did it) doesn't create justification for sticking Africans anywhere else they don't belong historically.
That map is Africa. He is said to launch an expedition towards America.
Now where is Central Europe, with no sea access, again?
I remember I heard about that on a history podcast but they said that he was never seen again. I’m sure had he made it to the Americas there would be some sort of evidence like you see with Vikings.