It's a push poll. It exists as an appeal to authority/popularity fallacy. "See? Everybody else still trusts the media, so you'd be crazy not to as well."
No way it's this low. Normies are retarded but they're not this retarded. There's no way Trump would have won the popular vote if 80% believed the MSM's bullshit.
The "article" (more like paragraph) doesn't say what options respondents had to choose from, and the link to the survey requires you to pay to see the survey structure. These results are pretty useless without that context.
I'd guess that the question does not boil down to "Do you trust MSM? Yes/No," but instead presents multiple options like "I somewhat distrust the MSM" and "I completely distrust the MSM" and they decided to report only the latter.
Surprising it's still 20% left with all the insanity that's been going on. You'd think people would not trust the media anymore considering the track record in recent years, starting with stuff like the Hunter Biden laptop being probably the most egregious in my recent mind.
Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
That is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. I'd point out it does not operate in other arenas of life. In ordinary life, if somebody consistently exaggerates or lies to you, you soon discount everything they say. In court, there is the legal doctrine of falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, which means untruthful in one part, untruthful in all. But when it comes to the media, we believe against evidence that it is probably worth our time to read other parts of the paper. When, in fact, it almost certainly isn't. The only possible explanation for our behavior is amnesia.
Didn't realize the concept was coined by Michael Crichton.
Also disappointed the physicist it's named after is a Jew.
I read a book about famous hoaxes in archeology, and the author told a story in the preface that is basically the same thing.
He said he used to get all these mail order books about a variety of different subjects and was shocked that the revelations and counterfactual narratives they presented weren't mainstream knowledge. The books all sounded logical and well supported by evidence to him, yet they shattered accepted norms.
Then he ordered one that dealt with anthropology, which was his field of expertise, and everything in it was complete bullshit- half truths, the truth twisted and misused, and outright lies. He then realized that all the books he had been reading were complete bullshit, he just lacked the expert knowledge to spot it.
I think you got it backwards. the data reported says only 20% don't trust the media. as reported, 80% of people do trust the media (or at least did not say they don't)
I don't trust these statistics.
It's a push poll. It exists as an appeal to authority/popularity fallacy. "See? Everybody else still trusts the media, so you'd be crazy not to as well."
If people believed the MSM they would have believed what they say about Trump. His election proves it wrong.
No way it's this low. Normies are retarded but they're not this retarded. There's no way Trump would have won the popular vote if 80% believed the MSM's bullshit.
Yeah I think the "Biden is as sharp as a tack" narrative damaged the media's credibility even to the leftoids.
These stats are cooked.
The "article" (more like paragraph) doesn't say what options respondents had to choose from, and the link to the survey requires you to pay to see the survey structure. These results are pretty useless without that context.
I'd guess that the question does not boil down to "Do you trust MSM? Yes/No," but instead presents multiple options like "I somewhat distrust the MSM" and "I completely distrust the MSM" and they decided to report only the latter.
indeed.
it's also possible that they mucked the survey up with leading questions. example:
No fucking way 80% still trust the MSM lol
One of the most effective ways to lie is via manufactured poll results.
So yeah, a survey or poll claiming 80% still trust mainstream media is inherently suspect.
Trust in the media has increased sharply over the past ten years.
Among democrats.
For republicans and independents trust is close to zero.
"the media lies" is the first and most important red pill. without it, a person remains forever misinformed.
Surprising it's still 20% left with all the insanity that's been going on. You'd think people would not trust the media anymore considering the track record in recent years, starting with stuff like the Hunter Biden laptop being probably the most egregious in my recent mind.
Gell-Mann Amnesia effect
Didn't realize the concept was coined by Michael Crichton.
Also disappointed the physicist it's named after is a Jew.
I read a book about famous hoaxes in archeology, and the author told a story in the preface that is basically the same thing.
He said he used to get all these mail order books about a variety of different subjects and was shocked that the revelations and counterfactual narratives they presented weren't mainstream knowledge. The books all sounded logical and well supported by evidence to him, yet they shattered accepted norms.
Then he ordered one that dealt with anthropology, which was his field of expertise, and everything in it was complete bullshit- half truths, the truth twisted and misused, and outright lies. He then realized that all the books he had been reading were complete bullshit, he just lacked the expert knowledge to spot it.
"Why do people think we're dishonest?" cried the institution with a long and documented history of dishonesty.
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People who don't trust the media won't do surveys, I don't even answer calls from people not on my contacts
There are lies, damned lies, and Statista.
I don’t trust MSM statistics talking about the MSM either.
We should require that the 20% that do trust the MSM wear identifying tattoos across their foreheads.
I'd vote for "Sad Idiot".
I think you got it backwards. the data reported says only 20% don't trust the media. as reported, 80% of people do trust the media (or at least did not say they don't)