They were originally trying to ban handguns, hence the rifle and shotgun barrel lengths rules to close the loophole, then they removed the handgun regulation and left the SBR and SBS rules for no reason. They also both used to be 18", until the government surplused a bunch of M1 Carbines post WWII and committed a shit-ton of felonies so they just changed it to 16" to match the M1 Carbine barrel length.
The NFA is legislation that is too retarded to live.
thanks for the history, I didn't know it went all the way back to '34.
it is amazing how retarded gun laws are, no matter what your opinion is on the second amendment. the distinction between SBR and pistol is especially retarded
a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16 in is extremely dangerous because it can be concealed, so you can't own one without strict government controls!
What's that? you have a weapon that is the exact same thing as the weapon mentioned above, just minus a rifle stock? able to effectively shoot the same ammo at the same firing rate, and is in fact more concealable because it is missing a stock? additionally, the weapon is in fact more dangerous because it is missing an extremely common piece that allows the shooter to accurately hit their intended target? don't worry, that's just a pistol. totally fine!
what's that? you added a stock to your 1911 pistol so that you can shoot it more accurately? and in so doing, made the weapon much less concealable? FELONY! we hereby sentence you to a life of prison rape!
Clyde Barrow (of Bonnie and Clyde fame), used carry a cut down BAR, as well as sawn off shotguns. I saw a documentary a long time ago talking about the psychological effect the report of the rifle had on the officers he was facing. I'm sure it influenced the law.
Similarly, the 1986 FBI Miami shootout and North Hollywood shootout completely changed the weapon policies of law enforcement. Individual incidents get blown up and shape the future forever.
Side tangent: There was a commercial for MacOS back in the 90s that made fun of 8.3 file formats on DOS platforms and this cause MS to panic implement long filenames with hidden file extensions and it lead directly to the iloveu virus as well as countless hacks and exploits from tricking people into opening files and path parsing issues because filenames can have spaces. It still happens today.
We have the documents for their reasoning. The stated reason was because the mob used handguns for assassinations, they didn't give a rats ass about some bank robbers in the middle of nowhere at the time, but the mobsters were fucking with them on the east coast so they just had to get rid of handguns. Then someone brought up the fact that cut down barrels on rifles and shotguns would be a loophole so they added it in. Then, they decided that the handgun ban wouldn't pass SCOTUS so they dropped it, but left the barrel length in.
They don't mention any one event or person in the documented debates, just organized crime in general.
They have zero documented discussion on suppressors.
Yeah, I’m shocked some poor guy who’s lost everything hasn’t tried taking out insurance companies. Feels like it happens in TV shows and books more than real life.
We lost standard magazines back in the 90s and got them back in 10 years when the AWB expired and attempts to renew it were blocked. Then there's the slow spread of constitutional carry and shall-issue CCW laws.
Know why suppressors are on the NFA?
Neither does Congress. It was added with no recorded discussion.
unironically because of James Bond films
They were added in the original ban in '34
They were originally trying to ban handguns, hence the rifle and shotgun barrel lengths rules to close the loophole, then they removed the handgun regulation and left the SBR and SBS rules for no reason. They also both used to be 18", until the government surplused a bunch of M1 Carbines post WWII and committed a shit-ton of felonies so they just changed it to 16" to match the M1 Carbine barrel length.
The NFA is legislation that is too retarded to live.
thanks for the history, I didn't know it went all the way back to '34.
it is amazing how retarded gun laws are, no matter what your opinion is on the second amendment. the distinction between SBR and pistol is especially retarded
Clyde Barrow (of Bonnie and Clyde fame), used carry a cut down BAR, as well as sawn off shotguns. I saw a documentary a long time ago talking about the psychological effect the report of the rifle had on the officers he was facing. I'm sure it influenced the law.
Similarly, the 1986 FBI Miami shootout and North Hollywood shootout completely changed the weapon policies of law enforcement. Individual incidents get blown up and shape the future forever.
Side tangent: There was a commercial for MacOS back in the 90s that made fun of 8.3 file formats on DOS platforms and this cause MS to panic implement long filenames with hidden file extensions and it lead directly to the iloveu virus as well as countless hacks and exploits from tricking people into opening files and path parsing issues because filenames can have spaces. It still happens today.
We have the documents for their reasoning. The stated reason was because the mob used handguns for assassinations, they didn't give a rats ass about some bank robbers in the middle of nowhere at the time, but the mobsters were fucking with them on the east coast so they just had to get rid of handguns. Then someone brought up the fact that cut down barrels on rifles and shotguns would be a loophole so they added it in. Then, they decided that the handgun ban wouldn't pass SCOTUS so they dropped it, but left the barrel length in.
They don't mention any one event or person in the documented debates, just organized crime in general.
They have zero documented discussion on suppressors.
CEO of a health insurance company that ruins people's lives daily got murdered? I'm honestly surprised this sort of thing isn't commonplace.
Yeah, I’m shocked some poor guy who’s lost everything hasn’t tried taking out insurance companies. Feels like it happens in TV shows and books more than real life.
A professional put-down like that seems too nice.
What right that has been removed has ever been restored
We lost standard magazines back in the 90s and got them back in 10 years when the AWB expired and attempts to renew it were blocked. Then there's the slow spread of constitutional carry and shall-issue CCW laws.
I tried to explain that several times and I always get a massive hissy-fit in response. Yes, firearms are where we've seen real improvement.
Some men just want to doom.
That's some good news, thanks for the edification
Prohibition got repealed but that's about the only thing I can think of.
That's kind of a big one, I overlooked
NYC...
Mossad agent slips away...
Let me guess. He, also, is known to the FBI.
he's currently at Large. unless NYPD is hot on his trail, he likely got away with it.
fbi, cia, kgb, mossad, it is definitely one of these.
I'd bet money that he was known to the competitor that hired him, or the board member that did.
They all collude together and print money, nobody in the insurance business had him killed.
Insurance doesn't print money, at least not exactly.
And you never know, he could have had sex with his CFO's furry fuckboi. Thus, necessitating "a message" to be sent.
God damn it, why couldn’t he have done this a month or so earlier, that would have been a sweet Halloween costume this year.
I'm going to be honest, he looks like any other antifa goon.
"Generic masked antifa goon without a phone" is honestly a good disguise if you were ever hypothetically going to do something less than legal.
In some fashion or another, it has been a villainous staple for decades.
A hammer would have been even quieter and just as effective.