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The Yasuke business have made Japanese start to demand official documents for historical events instead of just believing everything they hear (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 1 year ago by btbw 1 year ago by btbw +119 / -0
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– Kienan 41 points 1 year ago +41 / -0

Japan...has committed the most war crimes in the world, and that they are still covering it up.

Unironically better than cucking.

Yes, Japan committed major atrocities, on a level rarely seen, and it was evil. No, I don't absolve them of that. But very few people alive today took part in that, and those atrocities shouldn't mandate the destruction and bastardization of current Japanese people or their culture. Which is largely great, and distinct.

Good for Japan for not bowing and scraping for their past evils. It says a lot that Japan retained more of their culture than the winners like Britain and America, or the other losers like Germany.

Not to mention that America, Russia, and various other winners also committed massive atrocities.

As the joke (that flies over the head of all normies) goes: It's amazing that the Good Guys won every conflict in history.

I'm so tired of all this bullshit. Sure, if you don't learn from history, you're doomed to repeat it, but if you blame people who weren't even alive for what their ancestors did, you're dooming them to destruction, and that's also evil. I really don't care what anyone did in WW2 at this point, especially with how inconsistently the winners and the losers have been treated.

My own country and people are having atrocities - albeit "softer" - committed against us right now...and using WW2 as justification. People who share a skin color with me, who came before me, fought and died against the Nazis, but because the Nazis also shared a skin color with me, I share the blame for that as well. Fuck that. It's just all bullshit, and if you look at it for a second it's incredibly obvious.

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– SarcasticRidley 31 points 1 year ago +31 / -0

I really don't care what anyone did in WW2 at this point,

I care very much about what a certain man in a wheelchair did to drag my country into a conflict it should never have been involved in.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Finally someone I agree with.

Fuck FDR. Worst president in US history, war-bothering socialist faggot that set the nation on the path to ruin.

You could argue that Lincoln or Wilson also did, but it was FDR that had 4 terms to stack the supreme court full of goblins that spat on the constitution.

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– SarcasticRidley 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I would argue that Wilson is worse due to the 19th Amendment, which basically gave the Democrats a permanent voter stronghold, the creation of the Federal Reserve which has royally fucked us, the IRS and income tax, which steals from the citizens, and of course the league of nations and dragging us into WWI, which was the start of the globalist bullshit we are dealing with today.

FDR was terrible too, and arguably much more authoritarian than Wilson, but he might not have been able to get elected into office, much less do half the shit he did, if Wilson hadn't laid the foundations for it.

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– Oranguchan 24 points 1 year ago +24 / -0

If not acknowledging their past crimes is a bulwark against children being taught to hate themselves and their country then I'm ok with.

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– Kienan 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

1000%.

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– deleted 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0
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– horstshort 23 points 1 year ago +23 / -0

Yes, Japan committed major atrocities, on a level rarely seen, and it was evil.

Only that the WW2 narrative is flooded with atrocity propaganda. So it is quite difficult to get a grip on what is actually true and what is just fairy tales of the psychological warfare department of the "good guys".

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– Sumsuch 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

You can believe me or not, but war actually sucks a lot of ass. Far too many people, who have lived their entire lives in bubble wrap, don't seem to understand this point and tempt fate for petty grudges or base desires, thinking that it can't possibly happen here.

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– horstshort 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

I'm not pretending that anyone had a white vest during the war. I'm very much aware of the reality of war. But historiography of WW1&2 is a cesspool of lies, half truths, omissions, agenda and the most outrageous deliberate propaganda.

It's one thing to say "Bad shit happened!", another to say "Those were the most evilest evil guys and we only fought the war to save the world!".

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– deleted 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0
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– Hellsbells00 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The soviets should be remembered no better than the nazis. WW2 was the consequences of leftism let in control of major powers. Trying to claim nazis are right wing and cover up the crimes of the soviets is a shit joke, because WW2 was godless faggot leftists on all sides doing what they do best, destroying their own nations.

It led to the takeover of the US by the criminal cabal through the military industrial complex. The US becoming the world superpower was terrible for both the US citizenry and every nation the CIA fucked. The consequences of WW2 have devastated every nation involved.

Britain? Cucked to death by socialists. Soviets? Generations of hell under communists. Germany? Cucked to death by socialists - they got rid of the nationalism and kept the vomitous tyrannical rot. They turned all of the useless bitch spite of hitler on the German people instead of everyone else as it had been.

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– redman012 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

To keep on topic with this, I think if other nations in history had committed atrocities akin to what Unit 731 did, we would have heard about it already, especially if they were in white nations. I’m not going to hate Japan over it at all, but that’s just my opinion.

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– Gizortnik 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

I'm not even sure that Japan committed the most atrocities. That's quite a hard thing to measure.

Unfortunately for the Japanese, most of their atrocities are quite well documented.

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– btbw [S] 25 points 1 year ago +25 / -0

I mean you believe the holohoax happened so you aren't exactly the most unbiased source . Coincidently it was Soviets that were the first to report on the Holohoax AND also the first to report on the "Rape on Nanking" which makes things even more suspicious. Did it happen? Probably but it was also probably exaggerated by more agenda driven forces (especially by CCP because we know that commies lie).

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– Gizortnik 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Just because I believe the Nazis when they say they did exactly what they did, and their rationale for it, and the physical evidence of it, doesn't mean your attempts at slander have any legitimacy.

Coincidently it was Soviets that were the first to report on the Holohoax AND also the first to report on the "Rape on Nanking" which makes things even more suspicious.

Okay, these are the things that make Holocaust Denial the most retarded conspiracy theory. All other conspiracy theories work off of low information, and then trying to follow up on it. The good ones actually follow the evidence and let the evidence speak for itself (like Pfizer's contract with Albania). The worst ones (like "moon is a hologram"), go down a rabbit hole of assumptions after a small amount information. You idiots operate off of no information. It's just motivated reasoning backed up by nothing. You don't want it to make your cause look retarded (even if you think it's a good thing and want to participate in the next one), so you just make shit up. You just 'say words' and hope for the best.

No, it was not the Soviets that reported the holocaust first, it was the witnesses, followed by the victims, followed by the aggressors. The Soviets, like Americans, got their information from those sources, down the line, as it slowly reached them by people who could communicate to them. That's how the Soviets would have found out about any of it, in any situation. You are literally ignorant of information gathering. You aren't equipped to have this conversation.

The first reports of the Rape of Nanking, came from the victims who fled the city, and Japanese officers who admitted that they had lost all control of their own men, and were unable to restore order. It's in their reports to their commanding officers, from the day. They don't admit that they ordered it, but they do admit that it happened. As with the Holocaust, it's their sources.

It's true that Communists lie. But so do Race Communists, also known as National Socialists.

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– btbw [S] 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Every time we talk about anything involving ww2 or jews you need to write a wall of text don't you? Also who did the victims report to? they had to report to someone right? The first reporters of "the rape of Nanking" were Agnes Smedley, Harold John Timperley, and Edgar Snow.

・Agnes Smedley was a spy for the USSR. She and Edgar Snow are close friends. She is a subordinate of Richard Sorge, a USSR spy. She is in frequent contact with USSR spy Osaki Hotsumi, and Osaki and Smedley were lovers.

・Harold John Timperley is hired by Tse-ven Soong (Madame Chiang Kai-shek is a sister of Tse-ven Soong.) He wrote "What War Means : the Japanese Terror in China".

・Edgar Snow is a communist. He wrote "The Battle for Asia".

Also i didn't say it didn't happen i personally think it happened but it was exaggerated.

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– TheModernDaVinci 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

The first reports of the Rape of Nanking, came from the victims who fled the city, and Japanese officers who admitted that they had lost all control of their own men, and were unable to restore order.

The Nazi German ambassador also had reports, since he was there trying to get closer ties with the Chinese and used his power as an ambassador to shelter as many people as he could stuff into his quarters.

You know you done fucked up when a Nazi is writing to Hitler telling him to break off relations with the Japanese because [paraphrased] "It would be a stain on our reputation to be associated with such barbarians."

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– btbw [S] 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Also in regards to the Holohoax.... lol no i don't think that happened at all. two words. Wooden doors.

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– ghostfox1_ 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

The holocaust didn't happen, but if it did it would have been a good thing.

That's your opinion, right? Just admit you want to genocide the jews already.

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– Dildoman9000 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

You can't prove the holocaust didn't happen soooo....

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– btbw [S] 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

two words:

Wooden doors.

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– Shill4Hire 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Most is a tricky thing, too. Most... per raw count? I thought Germany's 10 million incidents would drive that count lead. Most per capita? It's a well-known meme that Canada considers them the Geneva Suggestions. Most... by diversity of victim group? I think the USA had that one covered, just by breadth of deployment, but it might have also been Italy just due to geographic location.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

People commit the atrocities. They have nowhere near the most people. So I think Sus. It's probably the Chinese. They have the most people.

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

People who share a skin color with me, who came before me, fought and died against the Nazis, but because the Nazis also shared a skin color with me, I share the blame for that as well.

White people are to blame for anything bad any white person ever did, but they don't deserve any credit for anything good any white person ever did.

People of privileged colors are not to blame for anything people of their color did, and they do deserve credit for the good things that their color did.

"Have you heard Mansa Musa was rich? SHUT UP, I don't care that he owned slaves, I just want to take credit for the fact that he was rich."

For the record, I think it's good to criticize the bad things that your country did. Unfortunately, it does seem to be almost necessarily the case that you 'cuck' as you put it. Both of these are products of pathological nationalism, where the state is identified with the people - either you cannot criticize the state's actions, even in the past, because that supposedly reflects negatively on your people, OR you have to 'cuck' for the same reason. Actually, I think rightist Americans get it exactly right - they criticize the state's actions while being intensely patriotic and nationalistic, which is how I think everyone should be. On the other hand, Europeans get it exactly wrong, they have no nationalism or patriotism as a general rule, but they do have the pathological form in spades.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The real american nationalists (not the wehraboo socialist maggots) have it right because of the unique nature of our history. Our government was explicitly set up with restrictions and pages and pages of historical writings telling the citizens that government is evil, and must be kept in check or violently deposed. That, enshrined in our constitution and founders writings, has made american nationalists loyal to ideals, not leaders.

Even the oath of enlistment for our military is to the constitution of the united states rather than whichever chucklefuck is running the show.

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