...they had the same idpol and hot button issues (with similar coloration) as we do! Amazing, stunning, brave, and relatable! Right, my fellow Star Wars fans?
Neither Vorta or Jem'Hadar showed any signs of interest in others romantically because their entire method of reproducing was cloning so romance was redundant, Weyoun specifically mentions his shit eyesight is because the Founders decided the Vorta don't need it, which they don't. They're not soldiers, they don't need perfect vision for spotting things and shooting other things. They did have incredible hearing and a resilience to toxins which helped immeasurably in their role as diplomats. DS9 just had more sense than modern shows, and Trek, back then despite the inherent woke slant a lot of the episodes would still add such as the form Dax and Khan hosts meaning the lesbian kiss between Jadzia and Lenara.
That's what Mass Effect did with the Shadow Broker from ME2, a Yahg with 8 eyes possessing "unrivaled perceptiveness and mental adaptability".
The yahg evolved to fill the niche of apex predator on Parnack. Yahg have four pairs of eyes, each pair designed to track and predict the movements of prey. A keen sensitivity to movement and light allows the yahg to easily read the body language of any species, making it almost impossible to lie to a yahg.
They don't play well with others, however.
When Parnack was discovered by Citadel Council surveyors in 2125 CE, the yahg were a pre-spaceflight civilization with technology equivalent to that of 20th century Earth. A Council delegation of ambassadors made first contact with the yahg and attempted to establish diplomatic relations. Unfortunately, the yahg perceived the ambassadors' attitudes and behavior as equal individuals instead of subordinates as a sign of contempt, and attacked and massacred the entire delegation. Immediately following that incident, the Citadel Council severed all contact with the yahg and declared Parnack off-limits. The Council maintains that the yahg's aggression and obsession with control make them poorly suited to integrate with the galactic community.
We simply weren't far enough on the cultural research tree for trans folx to show up on TV when they were making DS9 or we absolutely would have seen a queer Founder.
If everything wasn't so woke and retarded, this could actually be an interesting story point. Clones and trannydom is actually an interesting mix, in my opinion. Similar themes have been big in sci-fi before. The whole point of clones is that they're nearly to completely identical, so big differences are interesting. If it were done well, which it obviously isn't (and, oh my, the fucking PAINT), it could be interesting.
As is, they oversaturated, over-politicized, and are just insane cultists, to the point no one sane wants anything to do with any of this, even if they were capable of writing interesting stories in this, the Current Year. Which they aren't.
The whole point of clones is that they're nearly to completely identical, so big differences are interesting. If it were done well, which it obviously isn't (and, oh my, the fucking PAINT), it could be interesting.
A lot of older shows have done it quite well when addressing this. When Crichton gets duped in Farscape the two then play Rock-Paper-Scissors against each other and draw every. single. time. because everything about them is identical. So they can't even try to trick the other by drawing then doing what wouldn't be expected the next time because both of them end up doing it.
I've had an idea about a game's story with an insane, AI (one of several,) that has gone off the rails and is convinced it's a bird locked up in a cage, instead of a machine built into a structure. The main characters need to either destroy or pacify it in order to progress. Since the AIs job is done and it has no further purpose, I wanted the option to give it the ability to escape and fly freely instead of destroying it to be the good ending. But now I'm worried that would be encouraging mental illness....
I wanted the option to give it the ability to escape and fly freely instead of destroying it to be the good ending. But now I'm worried that would be encouraging mental illness...
Without watching I'm guessing it was Moriarty, and (spoilers!) the solution was to fool him into moving into an even smaller cage where he would be "happy".
But now I'm worried that would be encouraging mental illness
Worrying about the "real world" impact of a fictional story instead of just telling the story you want to tell is one of the contributing factors as to why everything sucks right now. That's barely a half-step away from "I might change this ending because I'm afraid it might encourage anti-immigrant sentiment," bullshit
Fair enough. I do want to keep it, since I love the idea of a giant, hard-light, robot bird becoming a fast travel option if you choose to befriend it instead of destroying it. And I like exploring the idea of giving an intelligent machine further purpose after its duty is done instead of tossing it aside.
I just absolutely LOATHE the idea of the usual suspects going "Robots support trans rights!" with my ideas. As though an intelligent machine being rebuilt for a new task is remotely comparable to a human being mutilating themselves.
I'm guessing this is implied by your statement about not being woke and retarded, but I think it's worth making explicit too: that story can be cool, but should probably be written from an ultimate perspective of "this one clone is fucked in the head, and we're either doing a story that includes the mild body horror/ethical issues part of cloning or we're trying to fix this as a plot point." Trannydom is a mental illness, and an incredibly destructive one at that.
So you're saying they were not only born in the wrong gender, but the motherfucker got cloned, so that they can be tormented to live in their own skin forever. That's. Fucking. Hilarious. And not just that, but given the insane tech they have in that universe, they can't be bothered to fucking fix it for them during the cloning process! Amazing.
It's impressive that they somehow came to the same conclusion in the SW universe that being trans means to usurp the colors meant for newborn boys and girls because they're too immature to pick a sex and have to be treated like infants themselves.
But yeah, this is what Star Wars needed. More reasons never to interact with anything post Lucas.
Credit where credit is due, even accidentally. The prequels were not as well regarded until they came along and proved that it could always be worse.
"We made him wrong, as a joke!"
Call the trooper 'Squeaks' and add squeaky shoe noises to complete the meme!
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away....
...they had the same idpol and hot button issues (with similar coloration) as we do! Amazing, stunning, brave, and relatable! Right, my fellow Star Wars fans?
They are rapidly aged, when did he jave time to discover his identity? Fucking Disney is retarded
Neither Vorta or Jem'Hadar showed any signs of interest in others romantically because their entire method of reproducing was cloning so romance was redundant, Weyoun specifically mentions his shit eyesight is because the Founders decided the Vorta don't need it, which they don't. They're not soldiers, they don't need perfect vision for spotting things and shooting other things. They did have incredible hearing and a resilience to toxins which helped immeasurably in their role as diplomats. DS9 just had more sense than modern shows, and Trek, back then despite the inherent woke slant a lot of the episodes would still add such as the form Dax and Khan hosts meaning the lesbian kiss between Jadzia and Lenara.
It's good flavor, but being able to read minute changes in the faces and body language of others would be huge boon to a diplomat.
That's what Mass Effect did with the Shadow Broker from ME2, a Yahg with 8 eyes possessing "unrivaled perceptiveness and mental adaptability".
They don't play well with others, however.
We simply weren't far enough on the cultural research tree for trans folx to show up on TV when they were making DS9 or we absolutely would have seen a queer Founder.
If everything wasn't so woke and retarded, this could actually be an interesting story point. Clones and trannydom is actually an interesting mix, in my opinion. Similar themes have been big in sci-fi before. The whole point of clones is that they're nearly to completely identical, so big differences are interesting. If it were done well, which it obviously isn't (and, oh my, the fucking PAINT), it could be interesting.
As is, they oversaturated, over-politicized, and are just insane cultists, to the point no one sane wants anything to do with any of this, even if they were capable of writing interesting stories in this, the Current Year. Which they aren't.
A lot of older shows have done it quite well when addressing this. When Crichton gets duped in Farscape the two then play Rock-Paper-Scissors against each other and draw every. single. time. because everything about them is identical. So they can't even try to trick the other by drawing then doing what wouldn't be expected the next time because both of them end up doing it.
I've had an idea about a game's story with an insane, AI (one of several,) that has gone off the rails and is convinced it's a bird locked up in a cage, instead of a machine built into a structure. The main characters need to either destroy or pacify it in order to progress. Since the AIs job is done and it has no further purpose, I wanted the option to give it the ability to escape and fly freely instead of destroying it to be the good ending. But now I'm worried that would be encouraging mental illness....
Just do what TNG did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rQ6NF8Sfqg
Without watching I'm guessing it was Moriarty, and (spoilers!) the solution was to fool him into moving into an even smaller cage where he would be "happy".
Worrying about the "real world" impact of a fictional story instead of just telling the story you want to tell is one of the contributing factors as to why everything sucks right now. That's barely a half-step away from "I might change this ending because I'm afraid it might encourage anti-immigrant sentiment," bullshit
Fair enough. I do want to keep it, since I love the idea of a giant, hard-light, robot bird becoming a fast travel option if you choose to befriend it instead of destroying it. And I like exploring the idea of giving an intelligent machine further purpose after its duty is done instead of tossing it aside.
I just absolutely LOATHE the idea of the usual suspects going "Robots support trans rights!" with my ideas. As though an intelligent machine being rebuilt for a new task is remotely comparable to a human being mutilating themselves.
I'm guessing this is implied by your statement about not being woke and retarded, but I think it's worth making explicit too: that story can be cool, but should probably be written from an ultimate perspective of "this one clone is fucked in the head, and we're either doing a story that includes the mild body horror/ethical issues part of cloning or we're trying to fix this as a plot point." Trannydom is a mental illness, and an incredibly destructive one at that.
"Trans Clone Trooper"
So you're saying they were not only born in the wrong gender, but the motherfucker got cloned, so that they can be tormented to live in their own skin forever. That's. Fucking. Hilarious. And not just that, but given the insane tech they have in that universe, they can't be bothered to fucking fix it for them during the cloning process! Amazing.
"Transpeople are genetic mutants of a failed experiment."
It's impressive that they somehow came to the same conclusion in the SW universe that being trans means to usurp the colors meant for newborn boys and girls because they're too immature to pick a sex and have to be treated like infants themselves.
But yeah, this is what Star Wars needed. More reasons never to interact with anything post Lucas.
Credit where credit is due, even accidentally. The prequels were not as well regarded until they came along and proved that it could always be worse.
So does this mean that Fett was secretly trans now. As the troopers are just clones of him?