The New York Times sets the table for The Steal 2.0
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"Intense security" such as sending everyone home and then pulling out suitcases of ballots to scan them after the counting was supposedly paused?
Or like some random Karen putting USB drives in her pocket and doing God knows what with it?
Or maybe they mean voting machines being reset the day before the election after the final software audit was allegedly completed?
I might just go camping for a week after I vote and completely disconnect because it's going to be brutal watching them steal the white house again....
They may do the opposite. If Trump is winning the popular vote, they may start throwing thousands of votes away for failed signature matches and things like that. They would completely reverse themselves from 2020.
This is actually what they normally do with petitions. Petitions typically have a failure rate of 35% rejection of the signatures to keep ballot initiatives from going forward. But then they turn around and have an absentee ballot rejection rate of 1% or less because it's their votes.
They may, in fact, start throwing out republican votes en masse. Don't be surprised of absentee ballots get rejected up to 35% or more, depending on how the votes are looking.
That being said, it seems pretty clear we are on a "too-big-to-rig" path at the moment. Even with Covid, they were only moving the needle by 5%. With new laws in place, and with a popular vote win, we might be looking at them trying to figure out how to cheat by 7% in some states, with even less opportunity.
Unless it's a poll you like like Big Data Poll or Rasmussen, I would suggest explicitly lying to pollsters to throw off their campaigns strategy.
I guess I've lost more faith in our systems than you have because I just view it as them needing to take 8 days to announce the "winner" compared to 4 days in 2020.
It's not faith in the system, it's just recognition about the capabilities of our enemies.
I don't have faith that the Maintenance Battalion can hold back the German offensive in the Ardennes. I just understand that Tiger Tanks can only operate with so much fuel.
So they were able to stuff ballots and manipulate the count for 4 days last time and normies didn't blink an eye, but 8 days would cause normies to revolt?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm trying to envision how the fraud can be stopped or exposed when the media is providing cover.
ETA: A key point imo is that it isn't Democrats cheating Republicans. It's Democrats and Republicans cheating Donald Trump.
You are misunderstanding me. There is a limitation to their capabilities, this doesn't have anything to do with "normies". They only have so much ammo to shoot.
They can't print 20 million ballots to swing Ohio blue. They can only print X number of ballots, and only in specific counties with corrupt officials.
Yes, you can get wider spread ballot fraud, but not enough to actually fully swing a state that Trump wins by 7 points in.
You're looking at a range of 3-5 point swings is what they can achieve. That means as bad as Arizona is, they might not even be able to pull off the cheating there. Wisconsin might actually be entirely lost to them.
I see what you mean now, thanks. I hope you're right.
But the fraud isn't just in one area.
Sure you've got your ballot printing in specific counties, you've also got google and facebook witholding and censoring information, that's a few more points overall. There's the army of "urban volunteers" who get paid per ballot they "source" that's a huge number in all inner city urban areas, there's all the "bugs and glitches" that will happen in red counties, that's a few more counties gone.
That's all part of the same industrial-fraud system. It has a limited capacity is my point, and it stops at about 5%.
You're wrong. There is no limit. When they print more ballots than voters exist, they just alter the records to add more fake people.
2020 told them they could get away with anything. Just stop the counting and add more votes until you win. The courts are no redress, so what is going to stop them?
No, the Law of Diminishing Returns always exists.
The courts did act in some cases of smaller scale. Adjustments were at state levels. Only so many people can be hired. Only so much paper exists.
That was the situation in 2016. It might be the optimist in me speaking, but I think Trump has locked in the establishment Right this time. They know he has this one in the bag and have largely bent the knee. Either they think they can use him as controlled opposition, or they plan to let the economy crash and put the blame on him. Can't speak to "Republican" state election officials though. They may act on their own.
He hasn't locked in the Establishment Right at all. There's a good chance they are going to throw the House and Senate to get him impeached and removed from office.
That being said, he's made more progress against the RINO Right than he has in previous years.
Unless they are more afraid of Vance than Trump; Trump is only half Scots.
Vance seems more ideological and religious and there's this streak of 'Braveheart' in the Scots-Irish (aka Border Scots) that is hard to characterize or understand by other peoples. Like we have the word "feud" because the Romans after conquering all these different places and tribes (and failing to hold Scotland) had no word of their own to describe what it is. They built Hadrian's Wall to keep them out because the Scots were too dangerous to the empire - not from their might but their wrath.
There's a good chance if Vance takes over for Trump and the deeps say he better go along "or else" that he yells "freedom!" before reading out the JFK secrets on livestream.
The normal rigging is about 5%. With covid they pushed it another 5%, and that still wasn't enough, so they had to do an emergency late night ballot dump for the final 1-2%.
I'd expect 20% this time. They're not going to let it get out of control.
In Georgia, ballot counters are hired by Stacey Abrams. Aside from the conflict of interest -- which is apparently A-OK with their governor, btw -- your intuition would indicate that these people aren't going to be capable of a job of this magnitude and importance. They don't pay a lot, especially after the middlemen get their cut. It's like a drug dealer hiring 7/11 employees to count his stash.
We have the least secure elections in the developed world.
You don't understand, only a racist would think that minorities can get IDs.
Listen, if the non-Whites are too stupid to get a driver's license then they should be getting pulled over and detained when they drive to the polling places.
Our elections are secure as in "democrats have secured supremacy of the federal government."
Mail-in ballots should never have been allowed. There is a reason why they "miraculously" happen to change outcomes so that anti-establishment parties/politicians can't win.