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The New York Times sets the table for The Steal 2.0 (archive.is)
posted 1 year ago by censorthisss 1 year ago by censorthisss +74 / -0
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– censorthisss [S] 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

That being said, it seems pretty clear we are on a "too-big-to-rig" path at the moment. Even with Covid, they were only moving the needle by 5%. With new laws in place, and with a popular vote win, we might be looking at them trying to figure out how to cheat by 7% in some states, with even less opportunity.

I guess I've lost more faith in our systems than you have because I just view it as them needing to take 8 days to announce the "winner" compared to 4 days in 2020.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

It's not faith in the system, it's just recognition about the capabilities of our enemies.

I don't have faith that the Maintenance Battalion can hold back the German offensive in the Ardennes. I just understand that Tiger Tanks can only operate with so much fuel.

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– censorthisss [S] 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

So they were able to stuff ballots and manipulate the count for 4 days last time and normies didn't blink an eye, but 8 days would cause normies to revolt?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm trying to envision how the fraud can be stopped or exposed when the media is providing cover.

ETA: A key point imo is that it isn't Democrats cheating Republicans. It's Democrats and Republicans cheating Donald Trump.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

You are misunderstanding me. There is a limitation to their capabilities, this doesn't have anything to do with "normies". They only have so much ammo to shoot.

They can't print 20 million ballots to swing Ohio blue. They can only print X number of ballots, and only in specific counties with corrupt officials.

Yes, you can get wider spread ballot fraud, but not enough to actually fully swing a state that Trump wins by 7 points in.

You're looking at a range of 3-5 point swings is what they can achieve. That means as bad as Arizona is, they might not even be able to pull off the cheating there. Wisconsin might actually be entirely lost to them.

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– censorthisss [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I see what you mean now, thanks. I hope you're right.

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– subbookkeeper 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

But the fraud isn't just in one area.

Sure you've got your ballot printing in specific counties, you've also got google and facebook witholding and censoring information, that's a few more points overall. There's the army of "urban volunteers" who get paid per ballot they "source" that's a huge number in all inner city urban areas, there's all the "bugs and glitches" that will happen in red counties, that's a few more counties gone.

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– Guy_Incognito76 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You're wrong. There is no limit. When they print more ballots than voters exist, they just alter the records to add more fake people.

2020 told them they could get away with anything. Just stop the counting and add more votes until you win. The courts are no redress, so what is going to stop them?

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– AnAmishWithATude 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

It's Democrats and Republicans cheating Donald Trump.

That was the situation in 2016. It might be the optimist in me speaking, but I think Trump has locked in the establishment Right this time. They know he has this one in the bag and have largely bent the knee. Either they think they can use him as controlled opposition, or they plan to let the economy crash and put the blame on him. Can't speak to "Republican" state election officials though. They may act on their own.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

He hasn't locked in the Establishment Right at all. There's a good chance they are going to throw the House and Senate to get him impeached and removed from office.

That being said, he's made more progress against the RINO Right than he has in previous years.

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– Guy_Incognito76 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The normal rigging is about 5%. With covid they pushed it another 5%, and that still wasn't enough, so they had to do an emergency late night ballot dump for the final 1-2%.

I'd expect 20% this time. They're not going to let it get out of control.

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