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Delta Shore Games developers of Fallen Leaf are upset about curators that warn against DEI exist (archive.ph)
posted 1 year ago by kxitx 1 year ago by kxitx +67 / -0
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– deleted 43 points 1 year ago +43 / -0
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– cccpneveragain 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

I'm not so sure about any government payout to indies. The developers are just woke. I can almost see the office buttsex from watching the trailer. It's a game made by artists. I could make 2D character movement and projectiles in a weekend in Godot, and half the work is done and I just need some art. Much of the other things like parallax scrolling is built in.

I'm not even saying that is a bad thing for it to be a simple game. I like the idea. But it is missing the charm of what it aims to copy, particularly in the character design. They all look kinda just, gay. I've seen more than my share of pixel characters of old (and typically Japanese) and they don't.

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
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– idrago01 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

it’s a racket, hire the woke consulting groups and we will run positive press for you dont and we’ll make shit up like with black myth wukong. than the ESG loan bullshit and DEI hiring process that kills a company from within overloading management and employees with talentless activist cunts

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– cccpneveragain 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

My guess with AAAs is stock price manipulation and/or outside investment from the Blackrocks of the world. It's far too obvious to just send them a bribe, but to quietly imply that they will hire Sweet Babies or some other such firm or the cash inflow from Blackrock to their stock price will stop, that's all it takes.

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– kxitx [S] 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Do developers still get any money if one were to buy it play it for five minutes and then post a negative review followed by a refund?

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– WhitePhoenix 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

No.

What happens is the money is held in what is essentially the Steam version of an escrow. Steam hangs onto the money for a couple weeks (to address that refund period) and then afterwards the funds get released to the dev after Steam takes their cut.

So if you do a drive by buy-review-refund thing, the dev gains NOTHING. Steam has to eat the cost of paying for the credit card transaction, and you have to waste a few days for the money to come back after you refund. I don't know how I learned this, but I think it was because of a video called The Day Before or The Day After - yeah - that scam. People were worried that the developers did a rugpull on people who bought the game (because it was more or less a shoddily made asset flip with lots of false promises). People thought that the devs got away with a rugpull (since not everyone was going to refund it) and that the money already went to the devs.

What happened apparently is the money was being held by Valve, then Valve learned about the scam that game was. Valve then used that money to refund the game to anyone who bought it, even those who played it past the 2 hour limit (it was that bad) and the rest of the money Valve just kept.

So yeah, in the end the dev gains nothing but now there's a new review in their review section lol

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
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– current_horror 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

The current climate forces indie devs to choose between inclusivity and financial success.

They’re just communists.

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– mharmless 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

With this one simple step, you will automatically avoid essentially all the woke shit on steam without having to wait for a third party to call it out.

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– BandageBandolier 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Even without that tag, the main character looks really fuckin' gay. Easy flag

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– realerfunction 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

don't put in things that piss gamers off and you won't piss off gamers.

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– cccpneveragain 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

justification for pirating our game

Not the right method in my opinion. Don't pirate the woke games, rather not play them at all.

Oh, and they should have just left pronouns out. It's not normal. Besides any avoidance of woke, pronouns are a red flag that the creators of the game are idiots and the game is shit.

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– current_horror 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

They are lying about the piracy. No one is pirating shitty work games. Leftist devs are always looking for a scapegoat for their total failure in the free market.

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– mharmless 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I checked the high seas and found this title getting barely double digit activity.

Their all time peak users is 47. Even if you added the piracy it wouldn't hit three digits. Nobody who lives in the real world and spends money wants this slop.

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– FatalConceit 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I know there's a few people who just pirate everything - but they usually only end up playing less than 1% of what they DL. Hard Drive Space is a big issue these days so even Pirates have to be more discerning. I don't even play most of the games I get for free from Amazon/Epic/Gog. So they're dreaming if they think people are pirating it en masse just to fuck with them.

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– cccpneveragain 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Yeah, they didn't make anything worth buying and they can't admit it. I have no expectation of recreating the wheel for every game, but it's just so generic. I could download hundreds of ROMs that would be easy to run and likely offer a better experience.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

A guide was posted on how to hex edit our game to remove pronouns, with offensive replacements.

The "offensive" replacements: Male, Female, Female Bi, Gay, Lesbian, Futanari

any small game risks being buried by an angry mob before it gets any momentum of its own

Welcome to how everyone else has been living under the tyrannical rule of your party.

"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"

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– WhitePhoenix 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Wait, where's that guide? I'm willing to try this game out if I can hex edit that faggotry away

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– GamingTheSystem-01 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

https://i.imgur.com/Bof4nky.png

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– AccountWasFree 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Wanna know the best thing about this thread? That archive shows where the thread was at that point, and so many people LEAPT at the opportunity for group-think. But take a look at it now. The thread is deleted and locked (no surprise there from the mods), and all the top comments are rightfully calling the devs out for being pissy about two reviews that mentioned pronouns.

People bitch about legacy media being eager to run with a story and then never correct it once later information comes out, but social media like Reddit is worse. Because those idiots that instantly and eagerly ran to defend those devs will never admit that the devs manipulated them by omitting the truth of the situation.

These people WANT to be victims. They do not want to be accepted. They want the social currency that victimhood gets them.

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– kxitx [S] 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I went to this curators page https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44927664-Woke-Content-Detector/ and scrolled until the end and then I found the one review that matches the one the woke retard posted a screenshot of (but tried to hide what the game actually was)

that sent me to this https://store.steampowered.com/app/1459010/Fallen_Leaf/?curator_clanid=44927664

also existing not exist

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– yeyeyeya 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

I don't get what this person is saying, their reviews went down by 2% because they included unnecessary pronouns (literally just don't include them when they aren't necessary).

They want Steam to not allow people to bitch about the games on their platform at all?

Why can't people just not like things, for any reason whatsoever? It doesn't matter if my likes align with your likes, why can't I just negative review a game I purchased because I think their development choices are stupid?

I know none of you are involved with this dev but these are the questions that always cross my mind when I see things like this.

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– cccpneveragain 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

You know how it is, it's none different than the demands to X from major governments. We demand you ban speech we don't like. It's not politics, it's banning Nazis. This is about human decency. etc.

They want Steam to not allow any negative discourse with respect to current thing.

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– ernsithe 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

It amuses me that their thread just gave me a couple more curators to follow. Good job.

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– ernsithe 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

These reviews have dropped our rating from what would have been 96% to 94%, below the 95% threshold for "overwhelmingly positive" when we hit 500 reviews.

They're literally just bitter that they have "very" and not "overwhelming" next to their review score.

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– current_horror 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

They are also revealing the fact that woke shit games rely on very small review totals - family, friends, and fellow activists - in order to achieve positive reviews. The moment the number of reviews approaches mainstream, the average score goes down.

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– deleted 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0
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– Norenia 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Note: some users are saying this game has a 90% positive review ratio. And the dev is bitching.

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– WhitePhoenix 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Time to drive it down!

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– MargarineMongoose 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

What should Steam be doing about activist reviews?

Banning all of them or more preferably banning none of them. People don't like this shit infesting the industry and it's good that developers are starting to get an earful about it and see their games suffer and die as a direct and indisputable result of their choice to include this rot.

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– nuggetpatrol 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Ahh shoot. Fallen Leaf looked like the exact kind of thing I'd like.

But I can't give money to people that hate me. I'll take that one off the list.

Also thanks to them for the heads up about curators who warn of content I don't want to see in games anymore. I only knew of two, aside from DEI Detected, now I'm following five.

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– WhitePhoenix 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I only know of SBI detected and Silverstring detected. Is DEI detected another one?

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– nuggetpatrol 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

There are also these ones: https://imgur.com/RnKeCjl

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– WitchHunterSiegfried 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Get fucked lmao

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– Noctuner 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Sees LGBT game controllers of all kind on that reddit page

Wow, even for Reddit that must be some Kotaku-level game journalists woke subreddit.

It's just /r/game

Oh... well, close enough I guess.

We were placed on "Woke Alert" curator lists before release, attracting negative attention.

Why do you want positive attention from the people who you say are bigots / homophobic and such? Shouldn't it be good that your game is being despised by the people you hate so much?

These reviews have dropped our rating from what would have been 96% to 94%

As if those 2% are going to make a difference between business success and bankruptcy. You chose to alienate the majority of people with woke shit, now you're paying the price. Even with 100% positive reviews your game will bomb, because sane people are tired of this. The "Modern Audience", according to Dustborn and Flintlock, is in the few hundred of people at most.

What should Steam be doing about activist reviews?

Pathetic hypocrite. It's fine when they are being the activists and infest all game studio in existence to corrupt them from the inside, but when people boycott them, as usual, they run to "Daddy big company" and "Daddy government" to help them.

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– ShekelJa 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Justification for pirating games? lol I saw that stupid ass woke game appear in my sources and immediately refused to download it for free

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– CaptainDudeguy 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

He also deleted all his Reddit threads and nuked a bunch of stuff from the Fallen Leaf steam page after people posted backlash from the Reddit thread. Also the Fallen Leaf steam forum is locked to only people who own the game.

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– deleted 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0
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– FatalConceit 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The lack of self-awareness in the comments is not surprising

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– lynxxyarly 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Like anything, voting with your wallet is what makes the most impact. They feel it in their paychecks, as this OP clearly confirms. Nothing else speaks louder than dollars. So fuck 'em. Enjoy your woke trash, because I'm not interested. I'll continue to spend my money on things from companies that don't hate me.

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– OmegaBird 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

So, they hate that elements of their game are transparent and revealed to the public? Wouldnt you WANT this if youre proud of it? Unless of course you know what your doing is due to a hidden agenda and you need to obfuscate that, due to moral shadows.

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