I'm person x, and the above is a description of me stationed in south korea, I used deploy in the literal sense not the military definition (but you don't have to know that)
Nothing above is a lie, as a specialist I was placed in the position reserved for a staff sergeant, where I spent most nights not doing jack shit but sweep up and do bitch work before morning shift shows up.
And I pulled guard duty, in a camp very close to the DMZ (lol) and never once had to fire the weapon that I carried into war.
The point I'm getting at is I'm no war hero but I can be sneaky about my language and make my service seem more than it actually was without even lying. And if someone else wants to draw their own conclusions that's not my fault.
And that's what Tim Walz did, you can call it stolen valor or not, I don't give a shit, it's sneaky, and as a war hero who served in a combat zone during a cease fire, I'm against it.
well I tried. I didn't do a whole lot so didn't have much to work with when it comes to embellishments. Hence focusing on saying being overseas post 9/11 in a time of war mentioning near front lines without mentioning the dmz blah blah blah.
I'd assume a civilian reading it would assume given the timeframe person x was in iraq or afghanistan. Or rather that was my intent.
reality was I just drank a lot of beer and ate gimbap while having a good time.
I knew he wasn't in the middle east, or he would have mentioned the Iraq or Afghanistan campaign medals. The whole "near the front lines" threw me off, because I forgot we're still technically in a state of war with North Korea.
They signed an armistice in the fifties, but that's defined as a temporary cessation of hostilities. The state of war still exists.
As a veteran of the Global War on Terror who also didnt do anything other than sit in a office this definitely read to me like a write up I would do if I wanted to pull the wool over someone's eyes. Is it stolen valor. Ehhh. But its easy to be dishonest without actually lying.
thank you for your service, even if it seemed bland. I'm glad you were able to serve somewhere where your service actually meant something, and wasn't just a ritual bombing of the locals.
I made it to ARCOM and skipped to the final paragraph, eyes totally glazed over. You are very fluent in ghoul-speak and you could probably infiltrate an unelected advisory position in DC somewhere. Instead, I'd suggest you douse yourself in salt, see a priest, and maybe spend a couple weeks roughing it in the mountains reconnecting with your humanity.
no offense taken, because it's true. And while it won't fool everyone but it'll fool enough and those wanting to be fooled*. Just want to mention Tim Walz's wiki only mentions 2 awards: ARCOM and 2x AAM and he's an E-8 24 years part-timer. The exercise of that writeup was to be vague without lying and let people draw their own conclusion.
*I talk to a massive TDS individual, civilian, and he defends Walz with damage control talking points which is worse and more flimsy then my writeup, while in the same breath bad mouths Vance for having an easy mos and deployment. People are dumb.
Right? Didn't even get a msm during his tour of italy in 2003. iirc rules changed in 2004 to make msm a buffer in combat zones so people stop giving out bronze stars like candy.
Guy in his position didn't have anyone bullshit a 638 for "exemplary leadership"? Must not been liked.
Bronze Stars at the time was really the circle jerk award not everyone gets it, a lot of people did, but the ones who did is usually in the clique and their boys.
Not trying to reply to every comment but
Now I'm starting to think less on the "abandoned his men" narrative and more along the lines of "his men were better off without him".
Personally, I'll withhold judgement on that but if I were a betting man, something tells me he takes the modified PT test. And if he does, that tells me all I need to know about this senior nco.
Reading it from a jaded HR perspective, I would have thought you were a line cook civvy who did mis-en-place prep work for the day crew, but took on the night shift role to get some supervisory experience beyond your posting. Or at least, they could more or less put the exact same paragraphs in place. It's amazing the level of "technically true if you squint really hard" some people put on their resumes.
Ha! I kinda modified the writeup from the one I shared to my vet buddies before posting here to hide what I actually did because I am paranoid.
I'm only saying this because I knew a lot of Army cooks and of all the "sounds like you didn't do shit" comments thus far only yours rustled my jimmies. lol damn cooks!
If I didn't know bragging about ARCOM is a specific red flag due to reports about Tim Walz in the last few days I wouldn't have noticed anything suspicious.
Ever since i heard Zach Hazards story about people getting ARCOMs for fixing the commanders AC, when he didn't even warrant a thank you for spending a day traveling across their AO to do the annual inspection of all the units weapons, I know the ARCOM isn't a serious medal (without the V)
How every award outside of being witnessed risking your own life in the line of duty:
Know someone. Liked by the right people.
Bonus:
Sucks cock.
Also applies to promotion waivers.
Also, never in my life had I mentioned much less brag I got an ARCOM in the Army, that isn't a real award, that's baseline shit, if you did 3-4 active duty and you don't have an ARCOM while it doesn't necessarily mean you were extra, but it'd raise some flags.
For the rest of you, you need to learn to spot this crap when you see it
Spent a decade as a govt contractor and another decade working directly for the govt. This mealy-mouthed shit stands out like a dindu at a Klan meeting once you see someone pencil-whipping their utterly unimpressive career into something they deserve an award for.
Spoilers ahead:
I'm person x, and the above is a description of me stationed in south korea, I used deploy in the literal sense not the military definition (but you don't have to know that)
Nothing above is a lie, as a specialist I was placed in the position reserved for a staff sergeant, where I spent most nights not doing jack shit but sweep up and do bitch work before morning shift shows up.
And I pulled guard duty, in a camp very close to the DMZ (lol) and never once had to fire the weapon that I carried into war.
The point I'm getting at is I'm no war hero but I can be sneaky about my language and make my service seem more than it actually was without even lying. And if someone else wants to draw their own conclusions that's not my fault.
And that's what Tim Walz did, you can call it stolen valor or not, I don't give a shit, it's sneaky, and as a war hero who served in a combat zone during a cease fire, I'm against it.
I was thinking after reading that it doesn't sound like that person did a whole lot.
well I tried. I didn't do a whole lot so didn't have much to work with when it comes to embellishments. Hence focusing on saying being overseas post 9/11 in a time of war mentioning near front lines without mentioning the dmz blah blah blah.
I'd assume a civilian reading it would assume given the timeframe person x was in iraq or afghanistan. Or rather that was my intent.
reality was I just drank a lot of beer and ate gimbap while having a good time.
I actually did assume you were in the Middle East or Afghanistan so that part worked.
I knew he wasn't in the middle east, or he would have mentioned the Iraq or Afghanistan campaign medals. The whole "near the front lines" threw me off, because I forgot we're still technically in a state of war with North Korea.
They signed an armistice in the fifties, but that's defined as a temporary cessation of hostilities. The state of war still exists.
As a veteran of the Global War on Terror who also didnt do anything other than sit in a office this definitely read to me like a write up I would do if I wanted to pull the wool over someone's eyes. Is it stolen valor. Ehhh. But its easy to be dishonest without actually lying.
thank you for your service, even if it seemed bland. I'm glad you were able to serve somewhere where your service actually meant something, and wasn't just a ritual bombing of the locals.
I made it to ARCOM and skipped to the final paragraph, eyes totally glazed over. You are very fluent in ghoul-speak and you could probably infiltrate an unelected advisory position in DC somewhere. Instead, I'd suggest you douse yourself in salt, see a priest, and maybe spend a couple weeks roughing it in the mountains reconnecting with your humanity.
I can't! I was never any good in land nav!
Are you sure you weren't a shave-tail Lieutenant?
That's the writeup of someone who served completely without distinction, and any veteran is going to spot it instantly.
No offense intended.
no offense taken, because it's true. And while it won't fool everyone but it'll fool enough and those wanting to be fooled*. Just want to mention Tim Walz's wiki only mentions 2 awards: ARCOM and 2x AAM and he's an E-8 24 years part-timer. The exercise of that writeup was to be vague without lying and let people draw their own conclusion.
*I talk to a massive TDS individual, civilian, and he defends Walz with damage control talking points which is worse and more flimsy then my writeup, while in the same breath bad mouths Vance for having an easy mos and deployment. People are dumb.
Holy crap that's a piddling amount of chest candy for an E8.
I had more than that my first three years for crying out loud and that was before I ever did anything serious.
Right? Didn't even get a msm during his tour of italy in 2003. iirc rules changed in 2004 to make msm a buffer in combat zones so people stop giving out bronze stars like candy.
Guy in his position didn't have anyone bullshit a 638 for "exemplary leadership"? Must not been liked.
Yeah that's boggling. He's even missing quite a few gimme medals.
I didn't know that's all he had for being in for twenty four years.
He sounds like he's a piece of shit.
I remember Army Units that were handing out Bronze Stars for giggles. Nobody fucked around with Silver Stars though. That shit's way more serious.
Now I'm starting to think less on the "abandoned his men" narrative and more along the lines of "his men were better off without him".
Bronze Stars at the time was really the circle jerk award not everyone gets it, a lot of people did, but the ones who did is usually in the clique and their boys.
Not trying to reply to every comment but
Personally, I'll withhold judgement on that but if I were a betting man, something tells me he takes the modified PT test. And if he does, that tells me all I need to know about this senior nco.
Actually, that's rather alarming... Especially for the army.
Most people aren't thinking, they're only parsing info to justify their pre-existing attitudes & validate themselves.
Reading it from a jaded HR perspective, I would have thought you were a line cook civvy who did mis-en-place prep work for the day crew, but took on the night shift role to get some supervisory experience beyond your posting. Or at least, they could more or less put the exact same paragraphs in place. It's amazing the level of "technically true if you squint really hard" some people put on their resumes.
Ha! I kinda modified the writeup from the one I shared to my vet buddies before posting here to hide what I actually did because I am paranoid.
I'm only saying this because I knew a lot of Army cooks and of all the "sounds like you didn't do shit" comments thus far only yours rustled my jimmies. lol damn cooks!
Tactical burgers online.
If I didn't know bragging about ARCOM is a specific red flag due to reports about Tim Walz in the last few days I wouldn't have noticed anything suspicious.
I think the fact that you got an ARCOM and AAM is pretty good.
Ever since i heard Zach Hazards story about people getting ARCOMs for fixing the commanders AC, when he didn't even warrant a thank you for spending a day traveling across their AO to do the annual inspection of all the units weapons, I know the ARCOM isn't a serious medal (without the V)
https://youtu.be/4F5tSRT3JL8?si=JSvZ_HVWK8SXmVmT
How every award outside of being witnessed risking your own life in the line of duty:
Know someone. Liked by the right people.
Bonus:
Sucks cock.
Also applies to promotion waivers.
Also, never in my life had I mentioned much less brag I got an ARCOM in the Army, that isn't a real award, that's baseline shit, if you did 3-4 active duty and you don't have an ARCOM while it doesn't necessarily mean you were extra, but it'd raise some flags.
As soon as you see this GPT-like language you should assume the speaker (if they're even a real person) is trying to feed you a lie.
Spent a decade as a govt contractor and another decade working directly for the govt. This mealy-mouthed shit stands out like a dindu at a Klan meeting once you see someone pencil-whipping their utterly unimpressive career into something they deserve an award for.