I didn't know too much about him, liked him on some stuff, and then got a little suspicious about some of his earlier statements...but everything I've heard since has been very encouraging.
I don't trust him...but I also don't trust any politician, with almost no exceptions. But I'm hopefully optimistic. This Vance guy seems great, and he pisses off all the right people too. Did Trump do a good pick? Are we fucking back?!
Vice President, while not super important on its own, is still interesting because a more "based" pick says something about the picker. Also, putting a "controversial" (I guess, but we all know whoever Trump had picked would have been Literally Hitler Jr. regardless) near the president means that's one less pure neocon whispering in Trump's ear. Presumably the one that wasn't shot.
Putting someone who seems good on (some) foreign policy, on DEI, on generally calling out bullshit, is great. It's another voice for sanity that gets to talk to President Trump.
Seriously, though, unanimous consent is BS in most cases, and forcing individual discussions and votes on nominations (or anything) is 99% of the time a good thing. And any ambassador who flies a pride flag over the embassy should have to answer for that (and preferably get fired).
The only bad thing in there is him releasing the holds.
I have my doubts but the fact that uniparty warmonger Karl "Turd Blossom" Rove was on CNN almost literally weeping onto his goofy whiteboard about Vance gives me hope.
O'Reilly was sort of defending Trump in this podcast - while also claiming that Jan 6 was "his biggest mistake" and that he doesn't understand Trump's Russia position.
I don't know man, he might just be a neocon in remission. Trump gets surprising support from neocons
It's sad that these losers are so far gone that "Putin enabler" sounds like a good thing.
To be clear, not a Putin fanboy but, point is, if someone gets accused of being "Putin adjacent," they're probably alright. Because that seems to just mean "not a cowardly murderous war hawk with terrible foreign policy."
I'd take a "Putin enabler" over a neocon/lib any day of the week. I'd take a "Putin enabler" over every Democrat...and most Republicans.
Also, if we took Vance's statement that "he doesn't care about Ukraine" literally...well...uhm, hate to tell the establishment, but literally not giving a single shit about Ukraine would actually give better results to the Ukrainian people.
The US/globalists "caring" about Ukraine is what got them into this mess.
So, yeah, I'm with the "Putin enabler" on this one, guys.
Speaking of enablers, the Washington Post's execrable Max Boot has been calling everyone who urged rationality in Russia policy 'Russian agents', from the late Stephen Cohen to Trump.
Now his wife has been arrested for actually being a foreign agent. She was paid for some pieces she co-wrote with him. He has such great investigative skills that he managed to divine 19 reasons why Trump is a Russian agent, while being completely unable to figure out that the woman he was sleeping next to was an actual foreign agent.
Are you telling me that the people sending a generation of Ukrainian men into the meatgrinder in the hopes of replacing them with conspicuously young and male Arabs, Africans, etc, placing them under the thumb of Blackrock, and turning Ukrainian women into prostitues (the ones who aren't already, that is) don't have Ukraine's best interests at heart?
Putin would be a fool to trust any American, "enabler" or not. Our promises and treaties aren't worth the paper they're printed on, and our "allies" tend to suffer fatal consequences.
Sounds good to me. Our politicians could learn a thing or two from Putin. They should do what he does and try representing the interests of the citizens rather than the interests of globalists for once.
Putin is the only European leader who will leave his country better than he found it. You can't say the same for Macron, Merkel, Johnson, or anyone else.
I don't even care what they're talking about. These guys are both disgustingly phony grifters. Wasn't O'Reilly just on tour with Trump last year?
Does anyone else remember when Bill would have Jon on his Fox show and then Jon would shit talk him in other media and act like they hated each other? I guess this is what people do when they can't get into the politician grift. Just a different level of kayfabe.
I'm inclined to see the politeness to one another's faces as the performative bit, not the hostility when they're speaking on their own terms.
People are far more often two-faced bitches who don't have the nerve to say what they really think than they are performatively angry with someone they privately get along with.
Stewart uncritically had Hillary and Rice on his show, and gave no pushback. Can somebody revoke his voice of the people status? He's gone full CIA shill. They must have some really dirty shit on him.
The series of events that would have to happen to get me to voluntarily watch a joint Jon Stewart/Bill O'Reilly video is so farfetched I can absolutely guarantee you it's never, ever going to happen.
How bad can Vance be if they got Leibowitz and O'Reilly together to shit on him?
Right?
I didn't know too much about him, liked him on some stuff, and then got a little suspicious about some of his earlier statements...but everything I've heard since has been very encouraging.
I don't trust him...but I also don't trust any politician, with almost no exceptions. But I'm hopefully optimistic. This Vance guy seems great, and he pisses off all the right people too. Did Trump do a good pick? Are we fucking back?!
The vice presidency is not that important.
My only worry was that Trump will possibly pass by fair means or foul in the coming 4 years. I don't want a total idiot there afterwards.
Vance is, if not a grand slam like Tucker or Vivek (unrealistic anyway), at least a homerun.
Vice President, while not super important on its own, is still interesting because a more "based" pick says something about the picker. Also, putting a "controversial" (I guess, but we all know whoever Trump had picked would have been Literally Hitler Jr. regardless) near the president means that's one less pure neocon whispering in Trump's ear. Presumably the one that wasn't shot.
Putting someone who seems good on (some) foreign policy, on DEI, on generally calling out bullshit, is great. It's another voice for sanity that gets to talk to President Trump.
Turns out, JD is terrible on foreign policy.
Stop, stop, I can only get so excited!
Seriously, though, unanimous consent is BS in most cases, and forcing individual discussions and votes on nominations (or anything) is 99% of the time a good thing. And any ambassador who flies a pride flag over the embassy should have to answer for that (and preferably get fired).
The only bad thing in there is him releasing the holds.
Also the VP has plenty of time to read The_Donald for what people are saying and pass it back to the Donald.
As far as I know the only bad thing about Vance is his eyes make him look like he's wearing eyeliner.
I have my doubts but the fact that uniparty warmonger Karl "Turd Blossom" Rove was on CNN almost literally weeping onto his goofy whiteboard about Vance gives me hope.
There goes my hero! Watch him as he goes!!!
O'Reilly was sort of defending Trump in this podcast - while also claiming that Jan 6 was "his biggest mistake" and that he doesn't understand Trump's Russia position.
I don't know man, he might just be a neocon in remission. Trump gets surprising support from neocons
Hardly remarkable if you ask me.
Lox News was never much more than a bunch of bought-and-paid-for shabbos goyim.
It's just that they're no longer concerned about keeping up the appearances of their outmoded controlled opposition psy-op.
It's sad that these losers are so far gone that "Putin enabler" sounds like a good thing.
To be clear, not a Putin fanboy but, point is, if someone gets accused of being "Putin adjacent," they're probably alright. Because that seems to just mean "not a cowardly murderous war hawk with terrible foreign policy."
I'd take a "Putin enabler" over a neocon/lib any day of the week. I'd take a "Putin enabler" over every Democrat...and most Republicans.
Also, if we took Vance's statement that "he doesn't care about Ukraine" literally...well...uhm, hate to tell the establishment, but literally not giving a single shit about Ukraine would actually give better results to the Ukrainian people.
The US/globalists "caring" about Ukraine is what got them into this mess.
So, yeah, I'm with the "Putin enabler" on this one, guys.
Speaking of enablers, the Washington Post's execrable Max Boot has been calling everyone who urged rationality in Russia policy 'Russian agents', from the late Stephen Cohen to Trump.
Now his wife has been arrested for actually being a foreign agent. She was paid for some pieces she co-wrote with him. He has such great investigative skills that he managed to divine 19 reasons why Trump is a Russian agent, while being completely unable to figure out that the woman he was sleeping next to was an actual foreign agent.
Are you telling me that the people sending a generation of Ukrainian men into the meatgrinder in the hopes of replacing them with conspicuously young and male Arabs, Africans, etc, placing them under the thumb of Blackrock, and turning Ukrainian women into prostitues (the ones who aren't already, that is) don't have Ukraine's best interests at heart?
Putin would be a fool to trust any American, "enabler" or not. Our promises and treaties aren't worth the paper they're printed on, and our "allies" tend to suffer fatal consequences.
Or any European, for that matter. It was Merkel and Hollande who have now admitted to intentionally defrauding Russia with the Minsk accords.
Sounds good to me. Our politicians could learn a thing or two from Putin. They should do what he does and try representing the interests of the citizens rather than the interests of globalists for once.
Putin is the only European leader who will leave his country better than he found it. You can't say the same for Macron, Merkel, Johnson, or anyone else.
Definitely not Zelensky
I don't even care what they're talking about. These guys are both disgustingly phony grifters. Wasn't O'Reilly just on tour with Trump last year?
Does anyone else remember when Bill would have Jon on his Fox show and then Jon would shit talk him in other media and act like they hated each other? I guess this is what people do when they can't get into the politician grift. Just a different level of kayfabe.
Pretty sure they're OK with each other - and I actually like that part, that they can disagree while still not hating each other's guts.
Just like our beloved GOP and Democrat politicians, cordially reaching to their good friends across the aisle to work hard for the American people. ❤
I'm inclined to see the politeness to one another's faces as the performative bit, not the hostility when they're speaking on their own terms.
People are far more often two-faced bitches who don't have the nerve to say what they really think than they are performatively angry with someone they privately get along with.
Stewart uncritically had Hillary and Rice on his show, and gave no pushback. Can somebody revoke his voice of the people status? He's gone full CIA shill. They must have some really dirty shit on him.
He says he's "looking out for the folks" (the simple people) while shilling for Ukraine. Jesus Christ.
Your loaf of bread is too high? That's Putler's tax. That's why we have to win in Ukraine!
He's looking out over the graves of 500,000 little guys on all sides.
That's gotta count for something.
oy vey muh putler
Is Putin in the room with us right now?
Grrr, these people are both smug propagandists. Mostly Jon Stewart. Being an insufferable bitch is like his whole thing.
It really exposes the uniparty game I bought for all those years. Keep arguing, but always remember to support whatever war we tell you.
Nobody cares, boomers lol
The series of events that would have to happen to get me to voluntarily watch a joint Jon Stewart/Bill O'Reilly video is so farfetched I can absolutely guarantee you it's never, ever going to happen.
What, you don't care to listen to two notable liars hash out their differences?
No, sir, I do not.
The real question is...is he a "toady?"
"YES HE'S A TOADY! But while we're at it, what is a toady?"
If the nebbish comedian and washed up chickenhawk don't like him then I'm all for him.