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Does anyone think the recent changes to WH40K (female custodes) has anything to do with Amazon studios making TV shows and movies for the property?
posted 2 years ago by Dereliction 2 years ago by Dereliction +57 / -0

Just hypothesizing here, total speculation.

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– Kienan 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

I'd be curious to know if certain people who were based in the community have been "taken out" in some way, how many controlled moderators and "community managers" were recently installed into positions, etc.

Funny you should say that...the exact same thing recently happened to BattleTech. I wonder if something similar went on with Games Workshop now.

It really is ridiculously frustrating how they just won't let people enjoy things.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThunk 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

It really is ridiculously frustrating how they just won't let people enjoy things.

I keep hoping that their constant need to turn everything into pro-Marxist propaganda will wake people up. Maybe it is with things like "Sweet Baby Inc Detected", but I know better than to get my hopes up.

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– Erithal 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Given the way Games Workshop was handing out NDAs like candy in the wake of the Warhammer+ animation acquisitions, I wouldn't be surprised if the community managers are similarly constrained.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

they cannot suffer infidels and heretics

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– Kienan 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

It's certainly possible, but the locusts have been after 40K for ages, too. Also, it's not like Amazon (or any Modern Audiences nonsense) is beholden to or respects the lore anyway.

Who knows what the exact contact is, but I doubt Games Workshop gets much say in what Amazon does. On the other hand, GW has generally had pretty tight control on things, too, so maybe their contract did have some lore-respecting clause. So who knows, it's basically a coin flip. GW and the locusts have wanted this for a while, they've just finally done it.

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– Dereliction [S] 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

Also, it's not like Amazon (or any Modern Audiences nonsense) is beholden to or respects the lore anyway.

Normally, I'd agree, but in this case Henry Cavil is deeply involved and, as you probably know, has some love and respect for the source material. This actually made me wonder if part of this might be an attempt to sabotage what he's doing over there.

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– Kienan 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

Huh, interesting point.

Also sadly ironic, and very Current Year; try to force the person who actually cares about your established lore, to not be able to defend your established lore, by changing your established lore. This does allow Amazon to point to GW and tell Cavill that, 'achtually, there have always been female Custodes, get the fuck in line.'

Man, that would be a punch in the gut, if Cavill had made an ironclad contract, that hinged on respecting established lore, and then GW went and switched up the "established" lore on him. A truly Shakespearean tragedy.

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– Smith1980 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I still have a bit of hope considering Cavill is involved. He was passionate about the Witcher and chose to leave due to them butchering it

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– Kienan 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Cavill is one of the few actors I (until proven otherwise) respect. He seems like a really good dude.

Zachary Levi also seems solid.

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– misogynegro 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Damn, that's exactly the sort of bitchweasel move these vermin would play.

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– TheMerleOfHaggard 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

I think it was just a cultural vandalism flex. Whomever the writer was, thought they were currying favor with some activist coworkers. Classic male feminist move so he can bang his coworker.

Now we gotta plant the accelerationist seed that Sisters of Battle needs trans-women in their ranks. Why do the Sororitis exclude trans? Are they phobic? Seems like GW is doing a hate speech.

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– misogynegro 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I don't think these types would have a problem with trooning out the Sisters of Battle, there likely aren't many TERFs in the 40k fandom. For these types eroding any meaningful distinction between the sexes is the point, it's why they can't even tolerate "truscum."

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– TheMerleOfHaggard 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You are probably right. I was just trying to brainstorm for some IP crushing activism. It's already infected. Gotta purge the whole thing now and rebuild.

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– Daucus9 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I would disagree. There has been no movement towards show production since....December 2022? I think Cavill announced in December 2023 something to the tune of, "Okay this time for real a deal has been signed". Yeah the writer's strike put things on hold for several months but now it's 16 months since the initial announcement and I'm not asking why a show isn't out yet, I'm asking why there has been zero progress and no one else has signed on and the IMDB page is a barren stem. Because normally this stuff gets gradually filled in. It's bizarre that it's still blank.

This may be tin foil hat, but I don't think Amazon is in any hurry to make this show. Possibly not ever. It may depend on who wins the US Presidency because I can definitely see WH40k content get associated with people who support Trump.

Amazon can do one of two reactions to that.

  1. Assuming Amazon is full of wokies, they are terrified about their show being some symbol the "wrong" people. So they won't make this show out of spite.

  2. Amazon is run by soulless cocaine-fueled corporate greed that don't give a fuck about woke, but if Trump loses then they don't want to be associated with losers.

There is also a possibility, assuming Amazon does not care about Presidential politics, that Cavill is being stonewalled over Amazon trying to shove woke shit into the show. However, it raises the question just what the hell contract did Cavill sign to make things so hard? And why hasn't Cavill notified people if Amazon is threatening to pull the same crap as what happened to The Witcher?

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– LastRights 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Several points:

  • Amazon has well-publicized woke policies that can be seen in every single last show they've produced, including 'Reacher' and 'The Boys'. What they did with the 'Rings Of Power' and 'Wheel of Time' was no accident.

  • 'The Witcher' was woke from the very beginning. Cavill knowingly signed on to that project and only left when other opportunities arose.

  • Amazon allegedly drove away the creator of 'Game Of Thrones: BLM' when he was signed on originally to do a Conan show, due to concerns of 'toxic masculinity'. But what we now see is that he's as woke as they come in Hollywoke.

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– MLGS 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

It's just the servants of Slaanesh finally succeeding in corrupting another thing that heterosexual white guys like. You can see dozens of troons gloating and giggling about it on Twitter.

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– subbookkeeper 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Honestly given that Blackrock invest in Games workshop, and they are a UK company, we should really be asking how they held out for this long.

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– Xachariah 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

40k player here. No GW didn't do this to align with Amazon. They aren't competent enough to do that. They can barely keep lore and rules straight between codexes that come out weeks from each other, so they have no hope of aligning with an entirely different company,

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– Grumman 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I doubt it. Any TV show or movie is going to be about the Space Marines (because they're the mascots of the entire franchise) or the baseline humans (because they're easier to write and film). The Custodes are irrelevant. If Amazon was making demands and GW wanted to placate them, they could just offer up any one of the already mixed units like the Tanith First and Only or any given Inquisitorial retinue.

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– SoctaticMethod1 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I'd argue it was more the slow knife of Blackrock investment that did this more than Amazon.

I'm just glad there was this much of a reflex punch to the face by the fans at large to GW at the news. Better to start hitting them in the wallet early especially when it was just before stock reporting.

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– ThePipeGuy 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

No. GW have always been cucks when it comes to their lore.

Remember back in the day the ultrasmurfs where manly men that wrestled, they had a half eldar marine, squats existed, the man that confronted Horus was just a guardsman.

Female golden boys is just them shitting up their lore some more.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I'm guessing there is a sweet baby in equivalent for games like this. Someone else mentioned Battletech, and Razorfist has been firing at that subject for a few years.

Games like this probably have very thin margins, and a nice investor who doesn't mind them slipping into the red would be really nice.

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– Decrixxx 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

yes but does not matter.

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– RamboDrivesALambo 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I don't know what the issue is, whores and prostitutes have always showed up where fighting age men are stationed.

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– misogynegro 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Thankfully the 3D printer goes brrrrrrr. Lots of people have been doing this anyways given GW's general faggotry and Jewish prices, now everyone else has no excuse.

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