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Abolitionist writer Lysander Spooner, reflecting on the outcome of the US Civil War (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
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– SoctaticMethod1 38 points 2 years ago +38 / -0

Basically, the argument is that the North's support of emancipation was a smokescreen of setting an example of a government waging war against it's own citizens that don't wish to support them.

They have a point, especially since the American civil war WASN'T required. Why? Because the British set the example before where they simply reimbursed the owners for the slaves, freed them when they were under their ownership and then outlawed it. Then had a naval squadron to stop future slaves being brought in.

It's kind of hard to argue that it was at all required if buying off the slave owners wasn't just an option but an example that worked.

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– Hellsbells00 42 points 2 years ago +42 / -0

The civil war wasn't started to free the slaves to begin with, it was to retain sovereignty.

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– Kienan 28 points 2 years ago +28 / -0

The civil war wasn't started to free the slaves to begin with, it was to retain sovereignty.

Correct, and the holy Emancipation Proclamation was a mere war maneuver. It didn't "free the slaves" either, and in fact gave the North and any state (or even county) who converted to the North carve outs to continue to own slaves for a while.

The North was pissed the South was doing well, and wanted "their cut" of the profits.

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– AgilePickle1123 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

More specifically, the Jew bankers took issue with the fact they couldn’t manipulate the market since cotton and other supplies kept the South’s economy very resistant to change vs the north

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– -Fender- 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

I know that had the South separated at the time, it would have been something like the world's third largest economy, which was the primary reason the North refused to allow them to secede (since they paid the majority of all federal taxes). But were Jewish bankers really so entrenched and influential even back then that they would have been able to influence most key figures into waging a civil war? Jews are overrepresented in most influential fields today because of generations of people engaging in rampant nepotism, but back in the 18th century, it just seems like they would have had less time to set that up.

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– realerfunction 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

retain and expand POWER

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– Adamrises 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

Slavery would have died on its own within enough time as the cost of keeping and using them would well outweigh simply replacing them with technology or other industries. Even assuming MAX RACISM where you treat your slaves the absolute worst and minimally possible, there is a limit where they cease to be able to accomplish the one task you have them for and replacing them is far more costly.

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– when_we_win_remember 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

The int'l slave trade was already banned in the US at the time of the Civil War. They wouldn't have needed any additional interdiction.

Lincoln freed the motherfuckers without any plan.

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– deleted 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0
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– when_we_win_remember 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Thank you for the correction. I think many people thought they would go to Africa. Lincoln had the fortune, from a historical perspective, of dying before most of the consequences of his policies came to fruition. Clearly, the plan didn't work. Who's to say if Lincoln's presence would have made any difference.

And I should clarify that in the South they were freed without provision.

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– BlueDrache 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

The jews were making far to much money from slavery to allow this.

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– Tourgen 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

the civil war wasn't about slaves it was about plantation owners in debt to The City of London aka jews attempting to subvert and weaken a new country from the inside that refused to bend to international coin-clipping financiers.

it's the same fight we've been fighting from the beginning, and that we eventually lost fully by the 1940s or so.

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