to be fair, a lot of normies are still programmed to instantly dismiss anything if it criticizes someone who is Jewish. if you want normie acceptance, it is better to focus on the individuals, organizations, and what they are doing.
Take the Soros conspiracy for instance. George Soros is a rich asshole who spends his money installing activist judges and funding riots. there's plenty reason to hate him. but the moment the Soros conspiracy gained traction, it was instantly put down by a single narrative: George Soros is jewish, therefore the Soros conspiracy is antisemitic. This worked.
the individual is an asshole because they are an asshole. their assholery may be influenced by their Creed or religion, but at the end of the day it is their choice to be an asshole. if you want support, focus less on their faith and more on them as individuals.
Optics fags are usually retarded, but they are right about one thing. We do need to actually sell our ideas to people, instead of just screaming in our bubble.
Part of that is knowing when to push or downplay things to better market it to the audience we wish to court. Normally, this will mean not being a sperg and screaming about Jews and Niggers directly and outright when making a point because, as you said, it makes everyone tune out immediately.
If optics fags actually focused on optics they would have point. The problem is that they try to water down our ideas, usually because they're barely disguised leftist house niggers like Matt Walsh and his butt buddy Joel Berry.
I've said around here before and I'll say again, they aren't as impenetrable as you think.
The problem is A)trying to discourse online is always losing and B)most people act like fucking spergs while doing so.
I've had great success in bringing friends and associates with radical Leftist ideas and poison and bringing them down to much more nuanced and milquetoast versions of that. Its not miracle work, they weren't suddenly "based," but a radical feminist being given the seed of doubt that women can and do lie about rape and abuse will do more work across time than 15 "DAE JEWS?!" posts.
I also think screaming about any particular group is missing the point entirely. The thing that unifies these people are their shit ideas, so that's what we need to defeat.
I'm not trying to trick or subvert anyone when I say "stop screaming about Jews or niggers." it's legitimately focusing on the wrong thing.
And where do those shit ideas come from? communism is from judaism its the belief that a small chosen group of people get to dictate everyone else and everyone else is cattle . communism was invented by the jew karl marx and frankfurt school which was also jewish.
first of all, what you describe is socialism which Karl Marx deemed was a step towards communism. communism is a utopian ideal where everything is shared, which can only be achieved in a world free of scarcity. Karl Marx's communism does not have a government once the revolution is complete. Karl Marx's communism is also completely doomed to fail because scarcity will always exist, as well as human nature.
Karl Marx was a privileged trust fund baby with a laughably terrible grasp of economics who thought he could solve the world's problems. his religion is only tangentially related to his shit idea. Most Jews would be insulted to be associated with his ideas.
the Frankfort school was indeed a Jewish school, run by a very small number of Jews that were likely part of the same sect. whether the school was operating honestly or was part of some conspiracy to destroy the West is up for debate in my opinion, but I can tell you everyday rank and file Jews not only know very little about that school, but would actively distance themselves from it given the degenerate ideas that have come out of it.
Tribalism is a basic human instinct, so often times a group is their ideas. Its ingrained in their mind so deep that the two cannot be separated. For example, basketball and black guys for a neutral example. Or Slavs and valuing human life. As such, I don't think you can defeat an idea in any real form without destroying the group itself. Maybe in some perfect world with infinite time and money, but not reality where people are suffering with each wasted moment.
But we end up in the same place regardless, which is "stop screaming like a retard it doesn't help anyone." It anything, at all, is to be accomplished it must be done with consideration for how you will be discredited and appear with adjustments done to counter that.
We are not getting out of this without bloodshed the likes of which western countries haven't seen for 300 years.
That's already happening, they're just good at distracting everyone, so it's not really shown anywhere. This is why the "optics fags" exist, because it's obviously tangential to the "permission" model of achieving an audience.
We're slowly moving away from that but we're between two worlds at the moment. Things like a legitimate cryptocurrency would definitely help there, but a half assed one can work too, anything to break up the old "natural" monopolies of the past.
Example:
Someone call you a racist and you go on an apology spree over it? You're an idiot and your career will be destroyed. Why? Because apologizing (especially for something politically related) is a sign of weakness in today's world, you won't gain anything by apologizing and will instead give the SJWs the ammo needed to confirm your destruction in the eyes of normies. The correct response is to tell them to fuck off.
Another example:
You discover that a very wealthy Jewish individual is running a corporation that is actively trying to control several aspects of society and more or less create a new slave caste. How do you bring this to the public?
If your answer is to immediately state that they are Jewish your answer is likely bad optics. Normies are extremely protective of Jewish people, if you point out that he is Jewish you will be dismissed as a schizoid moron and thus your efforts will be in vain.
So whats the correct way to bring this information to the public, and perhaps hint at his ethnicity without overtly stating it? Focus on the wealth and the highly likely chance that the individual comes from a very wealthy family, and give the individuals full name. If they had a prior name, give that too. Then just provide the evidence of wrongdoing
Mentioning the name will often provide some clues as to background, and providing context for their wealth (especially cliffnotes history of that wealth) hints this as well.
Left wingers are absolutely fine with collective guilt (so long as it's applied against White people), or positive collective pursuits (so long as it's not White people). Right wingers are fine with collective guilt (so long as it's Muslim Middle Easterners, illegal aliens, or White people) or positive collective pursuits (so long as it's not White people). The left has a vocal minority that despises zionism (because of what jews are doing to the Palestinians), while the right prizes itself on "judeo-Christian" values and the biggest supporter of Israel.
Jews Christians Muslims Buddhists etc. operate across the world with varying levels of success and ethics. to say any of these religions are the root cause of some evil is incredibly naive. Casting such a wide net will ensnare more innocents than guilty, which will create a backlash that ultimately causes your movement to fail.
people who use identity politics as a weapon know this, and are constantly poisoning the well. racial supremacist ethnostates like Israel, for instance, literally profit from people parroting rhetoric such as "Judaism is a disease", because it generates more sympathy for them.
Your last paragraph sorta suggest that collectivism works, since there's an ethnostate but white people should judge the individual, and not collectivise? If it works for Isreal why shouldn't we do it?
to say any of these religions are the root cause of some evil is incredibly naive
Maybe you’re the one being naive. The problem is culture. Social norms, morality, and behavior are driven by culture, with religion being a large part of culture. You know damn well that religion itself dictates morality and social norms. Now before you talk about atheists the jewish community is very strong and tight-nit, while there maybe lots of non practicing jews they still exist within the culture of the jewish community where norms are enforced. So when you’re going around calling people naive do you have any idea what jewish morality is like? Do you know what jewish law states about non-jews?
all jews are the same and follow the exact same code of ethics
this is leftist logic, just applied to Jews instead of Christians. there are many different sects of Judaism that range from benign to supremacist. While the Israeli government might fall towards the supremacist side, most everyday Jews do not give a shit. the only reason anyone supports the Israeli government is because they believe they will be massacred if that government falls.
to be fair, a lot of normies are still programmed to instantly dismiss anything if it criticizes someone who is Jewish. if you want normie acceptance, it is better to focus on the individuals, organizations, and what they are doing.
Take the Soros conspiracy for instance. George Soros is a rich asshole who spends his money installing activist judges and funding riots. there's plenty reason to hate him. but the moment the Soros conspiracy gained traction, it was instantly put down by a single narrative: George Soros is jewish, therefore the Soros conspiracy is antisemitic. This worked.
the individual is an asshole because they are an asshole. their assholery may be influenced by their Creed or religion, but at the end of the day it is their choice to be an asshole. if you want support, focus less on their faith and more on them as individuals.
Optics fags are usually retarded, but they are right about one thing. We do need to actually sell our ideas to people, instead of just screaming in our bubble.
Part of that is knowing when to push or downplay things to better market it to the audience we wish to court. Normally, this will mean not being a sperg and screaming about Jews and Niggers directly and outright when making a point because, as you said, it makes everyone tune out immediately.
If optics fags actually focused on optics they would have point. The problem is that they try to water down our ideas, usually because they're barely disguised leftist house niggers like Matt Walsh and his butt buddy Joel Berry.
Can’t sell things to people who don’t want to buy the product, let alone people who have been brainwashed to believe any product you touch is poison
I've said around here before and I'll say again, they aren't as impenetrable as you think.
The problem is A)trying to discourse online is always losing and B)most people act like fucking spergs while doing so.
I've had great success in bringing friends and associates with radical Leftist ideas and poison and bringing them down to much more nuanced and milquetoast versions of that. Its not miracle work, they weren't suddenly "based," but a radical feminist being given the seed of doubt that women can and do lie about rape and abuse will do more work across time than 15 "DAE JEWS?!" posts.
I also think screaming about any particular group is missing the point entirely. The thing that unifies these people are their shit ideas, so that's what we need to defeat.
I'm not trying to trick or subvert anyone when I say "stop screaming about Jews or niggers." it's legitimately focusing on the wrong thing.
And where do those shit ideas come from? communism is from judaism its the belief that a small chosen group of people get to dictate everyone else and everyone else is cattle . communism was invented by the jew karl marx and frankfurt school which was also jewish.
And Judaism believes in 8 genders https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-eight-genders-in-the-talmud/ where do you think transgenderism ideas come from. the first transgender clinic was opened by a jew
first of all, what you describe is socialism which Karl Marx deemed was a step towards communism. communism is a utopian ideal where everything is shared, which can only be achieved in a world free of scarcity. Karl Marx's communism does not have a government once the revolution is complete. Karl Marx's communism is also completely doomed to fail because scarcity will always exist, as well as human nature.
Karl Marx was a privileged trust fund baby with a laughably terrible grasp of economics who thought he could solve the world's problems. his religion is only tangentially related to his shit idea. Most Jews would be insulted to be associated with his ideas.
the Frankfort school was indeed a Jewish school, run by a very small number of Jews that were likely part of the same sect. whether the school was operating honestly or was part of some conspiracy to destroy the West is up for debate in my opinion, but I can tell you everyday rank and file Jews not only know very little about that school, but would actively distance themselves from it given the degenerate ideas that have come out of it.
Tribalism is a basic human instinct, so often times a group is their ideas. Its ingrained in their mind so deep that the two cannot be separated. For example, basketball and black guys for a neutral example. Or Slavs and valuing human life. As such, I don't think you can defeat an idea in any real form without destroying the group itself. Maybe in some perfect world with infinite time and money, but not reality where people are suffering with each wasted moment.
But we end up in the same place regardless, which is "stop screaming like a retard it doesn't help anyone." It anything, at all, is to be accomplished it must be done with consideration for how you will be discredited and appear with adjustments done to counter that.
If optics were the key Jared Taylor and Mark Collett would be swimming in white identitarians.
That's already happening, they're just good at distracting everyone, so it's not really shown anywhere. This is why the "optics fags" exist, because it's obviously tangential to the "permission" model of achieving an audience.
We're slowly moving away from that but we're between two worlds at the moment. Things like a legitimate cryptocurrency would definitely help there, but a half assed one can work too, anything to break up the old "natural" monopolies of the past.
Optics matter.
Example: Someone call you a racist and you go on an apology spree over it? You're an idiot and your career will be destroyed. Why? Because apologizing (especially for something politically related) is a sign of weakness in today's world, you won't gain anything by apologizing and will instead give the SJWs the ammo needed to confirm your destruction in the eyes of normies. The correct response is to tell them to fuck off.
Another example:
You discover that a very wealthy Jewish individual is running a corporation that is actively trying to control several aspects of society and more or less create a new slave caste. How do you bring this to the public?
If your answer is to immediately state that they are Jewish your answer is likely bad optics. Normies are extremely protective of Jewish people, if you point out that he is Jewish you will be dismissed as a schizoid moron and thus your efforts will be in vain.
So whats the correct way to bring this information to the public, and perhaps hint at his ethnicity without overtly stating it? Focus on the wealth and the highly likely chance that the individual comes from a very wealthy family, and give the individuals full name. If they had a prior name, give that too. Then just provide the evidence of wrongdoing
Mentioning the name will often provide some clues as to background, and providing context for their wealth (especially cliffnotes history of that wealth) hints this as well.
Left wingers are absolutely fine with collective guilt (so long as it's applied against White people), or positive collective pursuits (so long as it's not White people). Right wingers are fine with collective guilt (so long as it's Muslim Middle Easterners, illegal aliens, or White people) or positive collective pursuits (so long as it's not White people). The left has a vocal minority that despises zionism (because of what jews are doing to the Palestinians), while the right prizes itself on "judeo-Christian" values and the biggest supporter of Israel.
so don't stoop to their level
Refusing to use the tools available to you is a losing strategy. Use them judiciously, but you need to use them if you intend to win.
it's amazing how many accounts suddenly swarm you when you name Israel instead of naming the Jew.
However, this is a good way to lock yourself behind not being able to truly identify the disease behind the symptoms.
Judaism is, as we all know, an extremely flawed and corrupt religion. Dodging the main driving force behind these issues doesn’t help anyone’s cause
Jews Christians Muslims Buddhists etc. operate across the world with varying levels of success and ethics. to say any of these religions are the root cause of some evil is incredibly naive. Casting such a wide net will ensnare more innocents than guilty, which will create a backlash that ultimately causes your movement to fail.
people who use identity politics as a weapon know this, and are constantly poisoning the well. racial supremacist ethnostates like Israel, for instance, literally profit from people parroting rhetoric such as "Judaism is a disease", because it generates more sympathy for them.
focus on the individual, not the religion.
Your last paragraph sorta suggest that collectivism works, since there's an ethnostate but white people should judge the individual, and not collectivise? If it works for Isreal why shouldn't we do it?
the Israeli ethno state survives solely off the charity of others. it does not work if that charity dries up.
Maybe you’re the one being naive. The problem is culture. Social norms, morality, and behavior are driven by culture, with religion being a large part of culture. You know damn well that religion itself dictates morality and social norms. Now before you talk about atheists the jewish community is very strong and tight-nit, while there maybe lots of non practicing jews they still exist within the culture of the jewish community where norms are enforced. So when you’re going around calling people naive do you have any idea what jewish morality is like? Do you know what jewish law states about non-jews?
this is leftist logic, just applied to Jews instead of Christians. there are many different sects of Judaism that range from benign to supremacist. While the Israeli government might fall towards the supremacist side, most everyday Jews do not give a shit. the only reason anyone supports the Israeli government is because they believe they will be massacred if that government falls.
Normie acceptance is achieved by winning power, not by trying to appease their sensibilities.
The Nazi collaborator George Soros working to destroy the countries that destroyed Nazi Germany is a more viscerally compelling argument anyway.