Optics fags are usually retarded, but they are right about one thing. We do need to actually sell our ideas to people, instead of just screaming in our bubble.
Part of that is knowing when to push or downplay things to better market it to the audience we wish to court. Normally, this will mean not being a sperg and screaming about Jews and Niggers directly and outright when making a point because, as you said, it makes everyone tune out immediately.
If optics fags actually focused on optics they would have point. The problem is that they try to water down our ideas, usually because they're barely disguised leftist house niggers like Matt Walsh and his butt buddy Joel Berry.
I've said around here before and I'll say again, they aren't as impenetrable as you think.
The problem is A)trying to discourse online is always losing and B)most people act like fucking spergs while doing so.
I've had great success in bringing friends and associates with radical Leftist ideas and poison and bringing them down to much more nuanced and milquetoast versions of that. Its not miracle work, they weren't suddenly "based," but a radical feminist being given the seed of doubt that women can and do lie about rape and abuse will do more work across time than 15 "DAE JEWS?!" posts.
I also think screaming about any particular group is missing the point entirely. The thing that unifies these people are their shit ideas, so that's what we need to defeat.
I'm not trying to trick or subvert anyone when I say "stop screaming about Jews or niggers." it's legitimately focusing on the wrong thing.
And where do those shit ideas come from? communism is from judaism its the belief that a small chosen group of people get to dictate everyone else and everyone else is cattle . communism was invented by the jew karl marx and frankfurt school which was also jewish.
first of all, what you describe is socialism which Karl Marx deemed was a step towards communism. communism is a utopian ideal where everything is shared, which can only be achieved in a world free of scarcity. Karl Marx's communism does not have a government once the revolution is complete. Karl Marx's communism is also completely doomed to fail because scarcity will always exist, as well as human nature.
Karl Marx was a privileged trust fund baby with a laughably terrible grasp of economics who thought he could solve the world's problems. his religion is only tangentially related to his shit idea. Most Jews would be insulted to be associated with his ideas.
the Frankfort school was indeed a Jewish school, run by a very small number of Jews that were likely part of the same sect. whether the school was operating honestly or was part of some conspiracy to destroy the West is up for debate in my opinion, but I can tell you everyday rank and file Jews not only know very little about that school, but would actively distance themselves from it given the degenerate ideas that have come out of it.
Tribalism is a basic human instinct, so often times a group is their ideas. Its ingrained in their mind so deep that the two cannot be separated. For example, basketball and black guys for a neutral example. Or Slavs and valuing human life. As such, I don't think you can defeat an idea in any real form without destroying the group itself. Maybe in some perfect world with infinite time and money, but not reality where people are suffering with each wasted moment.
But we end up in the same place regardless, which is "stop screaming like a retard it doesn't help anyone." It anything, at all, is to be accomplished it must be done with consideration for how you will be discredited and appear with adjustments done to counter that.
We are not getting out of this without bloodshed the likes of which western countries haven't seen for 300 years.
That's already happening, they're just good at distracting everyone, so it's not really shown anywhere. This is why the "optics fags" exist, because it's obviously tangential to the "permission" model of achieving an audience.
We're slowly moving away from that but we're between two worlds at the moment. Things like a legitimate cryptocurrency would definitely help there, but a half assed one can work too, anything to break up the old "natural" monopolies of the past.
Example:
Someone call you a racist and you go on an apology spree over it? You're an idiot and your career will be destroyed. Why? Because apologizing (especially for something politically related) is a sign of weakness in today's world, you won't gain anything by apologizing and will instead give the SJWs the ammo needed to confirm your destruction in the eyes of normies. The correct response is to tell them to fuck off.
Another example:
You discover that a very wealthy Jewish individual is running a corporation that is actively trying to control several aspects of society and more or less create a new slave caste. How do you bring this to the public?
If your answer is to immediately state that they are Jewish your answer is likely bad optics. Normies are extremely protective of Jewish people, if you point out that he is Jewish you will be dismissed as a schizoid moron and thus your efforts will be in vain.
So whats the correct way to bring this information to the public, and perhaps hint at his ethnicity without overtly stating it? Focus on the wealth and the highly likely chance that the individual comes from a very wealthy family, and give the individuals full name. If they had a prior name, give that too. Then just provide the evidence of wrongdoing
Mentioning the name will often provide some clues as to background, and providing context for their wealth (especially cliffnotes history of that wealth) hints this as well.
Optics fags are usually retarded, but they are right about one thing. We do need to actually sell our ideas to people, instead of just screaming in our bubble.
Part of that is knowing when to push or downplay things to better market it to the audience we wish to court. Normally, this will mean not being a sperg and screaming about Jews and Niggers directly and outright when making a point because, as you said, it makes everyone tune out immediately.
If optics fags actually focused on optics they would have point. The problem is that they try to water down our ideas, usually because they're barely disguised leftist house niggers like Matt Walsh and his butt buddy Joel Berry.
Can’t sell things to people who don’t want to buy the product, let alone people who have been brainwashed to believe any product you touch is poison
I've said around here before and I'll say again, they aren't as impenetrable as you think.
The problem is A)trying to discourse online is always losing and B)most people act like fucking spergs while doing so.
I've had great success in bringing friends and associates with radical Leftist ideas and poison and bringing them down to much more nuanced and milquetoast versions of that. Its not miracle work, they weren't suddenly "based," but a radical feminist being given the seed of doubt that women can and do lie about rape and abuse will do more work across time than 15 "DAE JEWS?!" posts.
I also think screaming about any particular group is missing the point entirely. The thing that unifies these people are their shit ideas, so that's what we need to defeat.
I'm not trying to trick or subvert anyone when I say "stop screaming about Jews or niggers." it's legitimately focusing on the wrong thing.
And where do those shit ideas come from? communism is from judaism its the belief that a small chosen group of people get to dictate everyone else and everyone else is cattle . communism was invented by the jew karl marx and frankfurt school which was also jewish.
And Judaism believes in 8 genders https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-eight-genders-in-the-talmud/ where do you think transgenderism ideas come from. the first transgender clinic was opened by a jew
first of all, what you describe is socialism which Karl Marx deemed was a step towards communism. communism is a utopian ideal where everything is shared, which can only be achieved in a world free of scarcity. Karl Marx's communism does not have a government once the revolution is complete. Karl Marx's communism is also completely doomed to fail because scarcity will always exist, as well as human nature.
Karl Marx was a privileged trust fund baby with a laughably terrible grasp of economics who thought he could solve the world's problems. his religion is only tangentially related to his shit idea. Most Jews would be insulted to be associated with his ideas.
the Frankfort school was indeed a Jewish school, run by a very small number of Jews that were likely part of the same sect. whether the school was operating honestly or was part of some conspiracy to destroy the West is up for debate in my opinion, but I can tell you everyday rank and file Jews not only know very little about that school, but would actively distance themselves from it given the degenerate ideas that have come out of it.
Tribalism is a basic human instinct, so often times a group is their ideas. Its ingrained in their mind so deep that the two cannot be separated. For example, basketball and black guys for a neutral example. Or Slavs and valuing human life. As such, I don't think you can defeat an idea in any real form without destroying the group itself. Maybe in some perfect world with infinite time and money, but not reality where people are suffering with each wasted moment.
But we end up in the same place regardless, which is "stop screaming like a retard it doesn't help anyone." It anything, at all, is to be accomplished it must be done with consideration for how you will be discredited and appear with adjustments done to counter that.
If optics were the key Jared Taylor and Mark Collett would be swimming in white identitarians.
That's already happening, they're just good at distracting everyone, so it's not really shown anywhere. This is why the "optics fags" exist, because it's obviously tangential to the "permission" model of achieving an audience.
We're slowly moving away from that but we're between two worlds at the moment. Things like a legitimate cryptocurrency would definitely help there, but a half assed one can work too, anything to break up the old "natural" monopolies of the past.
Optics matter.
Example: Someone call you a racist and you go on an apology spree over it? You're an idiot and your career will be destroyed. Why? Because apologizing (especially for something politically related) is a sign of weakness in today's world, you won't gain anything by apologizing and will instead give the SJWs the ammo needed to confirm your destruction in the eyes of normies. The correct response is to tell them to fuck off.
Another example:
You discover that a very wealthy Jewish individual is running a corporation that is actively trying to control several aspects of society and more or less create a new slave caste. How do you bring this to the public?
If your answer is to immediately state that they are Jewish your answer is likely bad optics. Normies are extremely protective of Jewish people, if you point out that he is Jewish you will be dismissed as a schizoid moron and thus your efforts will be in vain.
So whats the correct way to bring this information to the public, and perhaps hint at his ethnicity without overtly stating it? Focus on the wealth and the highly likely chance that the individual comes from a very wealthy family, and give the individuals full name. If they had a prior name, give that too. Then just provide the evidence of wrongdoing
Mentioning the name will often provide some clues as to background, and providing context for their wealth (especially cliffnotes history of that wealth) hints this as well.