It’s funny to contrast this attitude with the recent sentiment towards Russia.
Russia made a concerted effort to limit civilian casualties even as Ukrainians were setting up shop in hospitals. For Russia’s efforts, they were simultaneously accused - by mainstream western media - of being the greatest monsters of all time and losing the war because “too slow”.
Meanwhile, Israel embraces civilian casualties as they recklessly mass target hospitals and other infrastructure, literally mostly killing women and children in order to get at the military targets hiding behind them, which is something that has never been okay in modern military conflicts. What do the press do? Ignore these behaviors. Because if you’re Jewish, or a western government acting on behalf of Jews, it doesn’t matter how you accomplish your objectives.
Give me control over Israel's weapon arsenal and you see what not caring about "civilian" sand people looks like.
literally mostly killing women and children in order to get at the military targets hiding behind them, which is something that has never been okay in modern military conflicts.
"The presence or movements of the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations. The Parties to the conflict shall not direct the movement of the civilian population or individual civilians in order to attempt to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield military operations." Additional Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions, Art 51 Section 7. Also read Art 58.
How do you not get it? They are warning palestinians in advance and giving them time to evacuate because they aren't some savage muslim terrorists, they're civilized good guys! Not because some right wing boogeyman conspiracy how those refugees serve them more alive in Europe than dead. Geez dood, cool it down with the conspiracies.
We have enough Islamic states in the World, I don´t wish to see any other popping out, specially not one ruled by animals like Hamas, they should flood all Palestinian sewers to drown those rats.
Actually win so they never exist in the first place? It isn't like this Hamas issue arose from the aether a few months ago, there's songs from ten+ years back referencing the hostility in Gaza.
This war is good for profits and prophets alike, so they let it go on ad infinitum.
I don't think they are going to make Gaza uninhabitable. They are just trying to raize the infrastructure. To be honest, this is what I expected when I called it a Bronze Age War. I suspect the solution will be a bit Bronze Age-ish as well.
Israel has a ton of Arab Israelis living in it, and what will probably happen is that the Israeli left might try to convert them into a more reliable voting block. While the Israeli right will try and create some kind of containment state, whether or not segregation takes place. There won't be full integration, but the Left might ask for it.
Israel won't be able to displace enough Arabs in the region to do anything about it, but I would suspect they would create a kind of occupation government for the region that would demoralize the Pan-Arabist & Islamist fighters to leave, and would eventually adequately subjugate the region over the next 10 years. Enough economic prosperity, peace, and political freedom might be present that they are simply going to try and stay out of the fight in what will become vassalized land.
Think about how the US and China controls debt to subjugate governments. The US goes mostly through financial products, but China builds infrastructure off of loans. As bad as it is now, like many conquests, if the conquerors are competent enough, the conquered peoples are able to benefit from the empire that conquered them. If you were a Gaul and conquered by Romans, 1/3 of everyone you loved will have been killed in the Cesarian genocide afterwards; but living in Romanic Gaul comes with roads, farms, economic prosperity, wealth, and knowledge. Israel could do the same thing.
Sometimes surviving the brutal conquest is better than resisting it. We see this with Rome, Assyria, and the Mongols. Sometimes, you should resist to the death or flee: Mayans, Khmer Rouge, ISIS. But being conquered isn't the end of your civilization.
They are going to tell them to either abandon Islam or tell the neighboring countries that they will be held responsible if the Muslims die from exposure to elements.
Imagine these millions of inbred + violent third world savages arrive in your town.
How would it change and destroy your kid’s future?
You mean the Jews, right? I wouldn't want them in my town either.
What country are you aiming for? I've been debating that myself.
Win first, write the history later.
I hope everyone is paying attention.
https://archive.is/IGe7x
The article in question if anyone was interested im reading it.
Both sides are always trying to feign as much injury as possible. I am fatigued of semites. Both the jewish and arab variety.
I thought they were genociding them?
It’s funny to contrast this attitude with the recent sentiment towards Russia.
Russia made a concerted effort to limit civilian casualties even as Ukrainians were setting up shop in hospitals. For Russia’s efforts, they were simultaneously accused - by mainstream western media - of being the greatest monsters of all time and losing the war because “too slow”.
Meanwhile, Israel embraces civilian casualties as they recklessly mass target hospitals and other infrastructure, literally mostly killing women and children in order to get at the military targets hiding behind them, which is something that has never been okay in modern military conflicts. What do the press do? Ignore these behaviors. Because if you’re Jewish, or a western government acting on behalf of Jews, it doesn’t matter how you accomplish your objectives.
Give me control over Israel's weapon arsenal and you see what not caring about "civilian" sand people looks like.
"The presence or movements of the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations. The Parties to the conflict shall not direct the movement of the civilian population or individual civilians in order to attempt to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield military operations." Additional Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions, Art 51 Section 7. Also read Art 58.
How do you not get it? They are warning palestinians in advance and giving them time to evacuate because they aren't some savage muslim terrorists, they're civilized good guys! Not because some right wing boogeyman conspiracy how those refugees serve them more alive in Europe than dead. Geez dood, cool it down with the conspiracies.
If you dont leave enough of them alive , this no longer becomes a problem
We have enough Islamic states in the World, I don´t wish to see any other popping out, specially not one ruled by animals like Hamas, they should flood all Palestinian sewers to drown those rats.
Can you suggest a better way to clear out the massive underground tunnel networks that Hamas uses to store weapons, hide troops and maneuver?
Actually win so they never exist in the first place? It isn't like this Hamas issue arose from the aether a few months ago, there's songs from ten+ years back referencing the hostility in Gaza.
This war is good for profits and prophets alike, so they let it go on ad infinitum.
don't invade a country and not expect the natives to fight back? then none of that would be needed.
easy.
Start by getting Netenyahu to stop funding Hamas. Start by not invading Palestinian land.
I don't think they are going to make Gaza uninhabitable. They are just trying to raize the infrastructure. To be honest, this is what I expected when I called it a Bronze Age War. I suspect the solution will be a bit Bronze Age-ish as well.
Israel has a ton of Arab Israelis living in it, and what will probably happen is that the Israeli left might try to convert them into a more reliable voting block. While the Israeli right will try and create some kind of containment state, whether or not segregation takes place. There won't be full integration, but the Left might ask for it.
Israel won't be able to displace enough Arabs in the region to do anything about it, but I would suspect they would create a kind of occupation government for the region that would demoralize the Pan-Arabist & Islamist fighters to leave, and would eventually adequately subjugate the region over the next 10 years. Enough economic prosperity, peace, and political freedom might be present that they are simply going to try and stay out of the fight in what will become vassalized land.
Think about how the US and China controls debt to subjugate governments. The US goes mostly through financial products, but China builds infrastructure off of loans. As bad as it is now, like many conquests, if the conquerors are competent enough, the conquered peoples are able to benefit from the empire that conquered them. If you were a Gaul and conquered by Romans, 1/3 of everyone you loved will have been killed in the Cesarian genocide afterwards; but living in Romanic Gaul comes with roads, farms, economic prosperity, wealth, and knowledge. Israel could do the same thing.
Sometimes surviving the brutal conquest is better than resisting it. We see this with Rome, Assyria, and the Mongols. Sometimes, you should resist to the death or flee: Mayans, Khmer Rouge, ISIS. But being conquered isn't the end of your civilization.
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Ask the jews. They did it with Babylon.
They are going to tell them to either abandon Islam or tell the neighboring countries that they will be held responsible if the Muslims die from exposure to elements.