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85 year old jewish hostage released by hamas: blames the israeli government for the attack, the bungled response, and continuing hostilities. Shakes hand of captor upon release (media.communities.win)
posted 2 years ago by Graphenium 2 years ago by Graphenium +44 / -0
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– NoEyesNoGroin 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

Jesus christ, how fucked up is it that the media in the country that was attacked is less censored about the attack than the US media and social media.

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– ArtemisFoul 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

The current government is fairly conservative, and I believe Times of Israel is a leftoid rag. I can't help but wonder if they'd publish this if Ehud Barak was the PM.

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– LauriThorne 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Obviously not. The left has no allegiance other than to the left.

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– WeedleTLiar 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

My underatanding is that there is serious opposition to Bibi over attempted constitutional changes; maybe they're political opponents?

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– NoEyesNoGroin 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Is ToI anti-Netanhayu? I know Haaretz is (being a Progressive rag) but my impression of ToI was that it was quite nationalist.

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– jrbelmont 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Not in the slightest. ToI was outright lying on a daily basis when the government tried to reign in the judiciary's coup.

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– Ahaus667 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

So a stereotypical Jewish mother?

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

They’re subverting themselves now!?

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– Graphenium [S] 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Always have been 🧑‍🚀🔫

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– WeedleTLiar 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

They just can help themselves, lol

No wonder they can never have their own nation for long.

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– Graphenium [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

If they just stopped acting like literal notsees I feel like things would improve tremendously.

I suppose that’s what happens when you let something become your raison dêtre

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Post Reported for: Rule 12 - Falsehoods

I need some explanation why.

It's not unheard of for detainee abuse to mostly occur by captors and not the actual prison-keepers. She wasn't raped and killed because she was a hostage. There's value in keeping hostages alive. It's entirely possible her claims (or the paper's claims) are true.

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– Graphenium [S] 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Lmfao, who tf is reporting the Times of Israel for falsehoods on this story?

And what do you mean by “you need some explanation”? - from me, from the person who reported the post, or from the ToI for running the story?

If you look into this woman, she has actually spent decades trying to help the Palestinians, she’s a true believer that israel are the bad guys in this whole situation.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I need more explanation from the reporter. Or at least some comments elsewhere.

I'm sure the Times of Israel could still be posting intentional disinformation, but I need to see why I should think that.

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– Graphenium [S] 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Yeah, you won’t get it I’m sure, as the report was just an attempt to squelch anything contrary to the “palestine deserves to be glassed” narrative that the zionists are peddling.

Thanks for being so level headed on this subject by the way. I think you’ve managed to keep this forum far healthier than other places on this site, and not just on this subject either.

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– WeedleTLiar 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah, this is one of the better places, maybe on the entire internet, for political discussion.

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– toxicbiofacts 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

To be fair, it’s most likely Stockholm syndrome/hybristophilia. Being a hostage was probably the most exciting thing that granny experienced in 30 years. kek

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– Graphenium [S] 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

Go look the woman up, she’s a lifelong fighter for Palestinian rights

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– toxicbiofacts 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

My point still stands.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

So... The kidnappers were abusive, but the don who ordered it was in a sufficient position of power over cowed and abused captives that he didn't need to be further abusive, and this is an indictator of goodness. Sigh, war is hell, and war reporters are just the imps stoking the flames.

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– Graphenium [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

What a FOOKIN NOTZEE!!!!

https://www.timesofisrael.com/freed-hamas-hostage-recounts-ordeal-slams-israeli-failures-speaks-well-of-captors

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– RaceCreatesCulture 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

One of my telegram feeds had the video with her speaking recounting the incident. She said the captures had all the things a woman would need to be comfortable including shampoo and conditioner. She said they seemed well-prepared and treated her kindly.

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– I_Bent_My_Wookiee 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Send Lich Queen Vlaakith back to hamas

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– GiveThemNothing 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

She's a jew hater!

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– jrbelmont 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Her husband is still a hostage, it's completely believable that she's trying to keep him alive.

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