My only saving grace is I heard female prisoners are the same if not worse with pedos so let's hope she gets general population and her crime is leaked.
Buddy the social narrative of confusing 5 year olds with 13 year olds is why the western world has become a nation of incels.
"Noose or pushed off a cliff" for someone who's at the earliest age people use to get married? This is why you end up with your kids being an evolutionary dead end and replaced with kids from countries that aren't this manipulated.
Position of power (teacher) over a person who would likely more vulnerable and easily influenced (under age student)
If men go to prison and possibly killed by other prisoners for doing the same to a 13 year old girl, I expect the same for her.
If you can't select out the millions who are over the age of consent, not in your care then quit teaching you degenerate as you're nothing more than a groomer.
Somehow our culture villainizes encouraging younger people to get married and have kids...so all we get is this one-sided cultural message where every mention of sex and dating is "it's bad".
Then that's not enough for the older crowd, so they start taking those emotions that are appropriate if the person was say a 5 year old and keep moving up the ages. This month someone told me anyone having sex with a pre-20 year old should be jailed for life and that's just fine with them.
If you can't select out the millions who are over the age of consent, not in your care then quit teaching you degenerate as you're nothing more than a groomer.
Yeah but that isn't "noose or pushed off a cliff". There's a situation where that makes sense but it's far away from what I see in this one.
I can remember a few teachers who I would have loved to see topless when I was in school. "Have those thoughts and they deserve to die" is a fucked up message.
I can remember a few teachers who I would have loved to see topless when I was in school. "Have those thoughts and they deserve to die" is a fucked up message.
Got nothing against the thoughts, it's EVERYTHING about the action. Choosing to act on it and rape (since an older person in their 20s having sex with someone before age of consent is rape) deserves punishment.
Since this is age of consent, the punishment varies on place, if you had a teacher having sex with a 17 year old student in the states, that's likely prison, a lot of Europe, disciplinary action and probable dismissal. No matter what because of the teacher/student dynamic it's just inappropriate at least, coercion at worst, if you're talking about trying to infantilise AFTER age of consent and there isn't this dynamic, that's retarded.
if you're talking about trying to infantilise AFTER age of consent
That's the problem though. Even though his point doesn't have much to do with this story, I can agree with him that the "age of consent" line is silly and arbitrarily, and keeps getting pushed up for ridiculous social reasons.
But you do have to set it somewhere. The punishment should be graduated based on the age of each side. So no a 13 year old isn't the same as a 5 year old. Still gross
I will agree as pre pubescent child is WAY different to teenager but we can't let it be known punishment wise and we should act like ANYTHING before age of consent if your in your 20s and more gets the axe.
Why? Because when people KNOW that a crime isn't going to be punished as harshly anymore, they tend to do the crime more and more and push the boundaries. It's bad enough people do that with looting and stealing, I DO NOT want that same attitude applied to sex.
We have age of consent laws that we agreed to as a society and for they're not hard to abide by. Don't have sex with someone older till this age.
If men get harshly punished for having sex with someone a year below that age, same punishment for women. Saying anything else is giving preferential treatment by gender.
If you don't agree with that, change the law. But for that you'd need public approval and sure you'll get it probably in far left areas but EVERYONE else will probably oppose you.
We're back to what I said to begin with, you're calling for the murder and killing of people - because they mildly upset your sensibilities.
We have age of consent laws that we agreed to as a society
Like I said in my post, in my grandparents generation people were getting setup to be married at this age. You are saying you want to kill and mutilate people for that exact same age range.
I did not claim the actions of this person were 100% right or didn't deserve any response / negative consequence.
I took issue with your sense of "morality" where you think a teen having consensual sex calls for killing and mutilating the people involved.
Yeah people here often go a bit over the top with things like that. Its kind of like a twisted form of virtue signaling. She should definitely lose her job and be barred from teaching, but death penalty is a bit much. I would say she's likely a bad person, but unless it was forced I would not immediately call her a monster.
In related news have you ever seen one of these online cult-via-zoom group that these posters are part of? It's crazy to think we've recreated all that 70's "drink the coolaid" stuff.
I still stand by execution by curettage, still legal for D&C abortions in every US State and doesn’t violate the 8th amendment. Plus it would make great mulch/ fertilizer
Police: Ohio Social Worker Had Sex with 13-Year-Old Boy She Was Counseling
Records show that days later detectives found a video on that cellphone of Shires and the 13-year-old victim having sex...
Shires has been charged with unlawful sexual conduct with a minor.
She's been charged with a 4th degree felony, which carries a 6-18mos sentence at most (commutable).
Even though her crime meets the legal definition for rape under Ohio's criminal code (2907.02), and still the fucking cucks won't charge her with rape (a 1st degree felony with sentences from 3-11 years).
She should also face charges for possession of child pornography under Ohio's criminal code (2907.323).
You’re a moron who bought the sexual revolution koolaid, congratulations. Those 13 year olds with porn collections develop slower mentally, are less likely to maintain healthy relationships, and are less likely to approach real women. You know the incels you just claimed were caused by not getting raped at 13.
People like you are a big part of the reason why the younger generation spends their time avoiding dating real people, and just sits addicted to porn.
I think what you're doing is called "pulling up the ladder behind you" where you make sure the next generation can't do the things you're doing so you don't have competition.
People like you are a big part of the reason why the younger generation spends their time avoiding dating real people, and just sits addicted to porn.
Let me guess women don’t find you attractive and instead of changing yourself you blame the men who did.
I think what you're doing is called "pulling up the ladder behind you" where you make sure the next generation can't do the things you're doing so you don't have competition.
Imagine arguing that porn addiction and rape is the “healthy” mentality 😂
I don't see the problem. When I was 13, I wanted to have sex. Unlike with girls, boys aren't harmed nor do they lose value when they have sex with an attractive member of the opposite sex. Unless the story is hiding something, it's not like he was being groomed into degenerate shit or exploited.
He isn't a child-child. 13 used to be old enough to hold a job and be head of household. It used to be old enough to go to war.
It is fucked up that she gets a laughably light sentence while the system pretends to be equal. But the truth is that men and women are different and one of those differences is that we're not really hurt by getting some action.
I don't see the problem. When I was 13, I wanted to have sex. Unlike with girls, boys aren't harmed nor do they lose value when they have sex with an attractive member of the opposite sex.
😂😂😂😂 you would be completely incorrect here. Time after time these incidents happen and the guy is ruined for life, but retards like you who think fantasies and reality are the same keep pushing degenerate stupidity.
Is the source of "Time after time... ruined for life" your own ass? Got any studies or examples? Gay abuse, and pre-adolescent abuse gets conflated, but I've never seen anything showing life harm to teenage boys having underage sex with adult women (meanwhile there is tons of evidence it causes harm in girls).
In my own life I know a guy who was in a similar situation as the news story. He seems fine, and said it was pretty cool and his only complaint is that it made disappointed when he grew up because it made him think getting chicks would be easier than what it turned out to be.
Funny how you couldn’t find a source supporting “it’s totally normal bro” except for “this one guy I know”. But since we’re talking about pulling things out of your ass do you have any studies that say they come out completely fine?
Regardless of whether anyone is right to spam unrelated threads, I can think of very good reasons to care about people being sexually attracted to children... even if it's "in private". Who is most likely to start touching kids?
Disclaimer: I have no idea about this 'controversy', though I'm inclined to side with the anti-side, I just don't think that "not caring" is as much of a virtue as is pretended.
What if AI is used to create ultra realistic child porn? Is it okay for a person to look at that because it’s “not hurting anyone”?
I would argue that anyone looking at illustrations of kiddie porn is absolutely harming someone: himself. And we do plenty to protect people from harming themselves, including outlawing various medical practices, sales of certain items and substances, and even certain behaviors that are deemed harmful to society despite “not hurting anyone else”. I’m perfectly happy putting “consumption of animated child porn” on that side of the line.
The whole idea that 'harm' is the only reason for imprisonment or (preventative) detention should be dispensed with. If someone is attracted to children, then we cannot police his mind or his speech, but we certainly can prevent him from acting on it in any way - including watching 'harmless' computer-generated images.
I kind of doubt it. There's free-thought defenders who don't like Loli/shotacon but tolerate its existence, however, considering human instincts, the converse(?, not sure if right word) is probably true. There's people who are virulently against lolisho but aren't pedos themselves.
I believe there's four kinds of people in the pot:
Pro-free thinking / Tolerate-LS
Pro-free thinking / Pro-LS
Anti-LS / Average people
Anti-LS / Real pedos
There could be others types but these seem to be the common I've seen
I would add a subset of those that can enjoy LS but would openly kill you if you showed them REAL CP.
I'm just thinking of the traffic alone to those kinds of sites that offer LS, if EVERY ONE of them was a pedo then we'd need to flood the earth again to cleanse it. It's like equating violent video games to real world violence, the numbers alone don't match up compared to pedos within the pronoun parade.
It’s important to point out that your third group, which is people who are strictly anti-LS, is a supermajority of the population. If you showed that shit to 100 people, what percentage do you think would categorize it as child porn? 80%? 90%? 95%?
And before you compare this to the high percentages of people that go along with false vaccine and diversity narratives, remember that those consensus were created by insanely pervasive propaganda in every area of our lives. There isn’t really any preexisting normie consensus regarding loliporn, so cold polling the general population on this issue would result in mostly organic reactions. And I’m telling you, the overwhelming reaction would be “that’s child porn”.
Holy shit get lost already. Its obvious you are a newfag and you came in the sub, didnt like what it was and start whining about the place just like a leftist.
If you think its full of pedos then why dont you leave? why do you insist on staying around pedos?
That's fine, you're free to die on whatever hill for your beliefs. I just don't believe in wasting time on deaf ears and was trying to give you a hint.
i wonder how long before we reset the clock on you. Everytime someone gets super fixated and angry about loli its always cause they are hiding skeletons. Here's a long thread of examples of that happening
I've heard of that connection (like weed leading to hard drug use) but it doesn't have much to do with this news or people on this forum. Why is everyone who hates censorship expected to approve of statutory rape? Ok honestly I didn't read the story. Did the teacher groom the student with lolisho?
Well they've finally gotten around to calling it "having sex" instead of "being in a relationship with"
That’s just because it’s breirbart, every other article will say relationship
Don’t worry, much like every woman before her she will more than likely only serve a year in prison
My only saving grace is I heard female prisoners are the same if not worse with pedos so let's hope she gets general population and her crime is leaked.
I would normally say 'if proven guilty' but there's fucking video evidence of her raping the kid.
Noose or pushed off a cliff, let's go ecofriendly/renewable with our execution methods.
Buddy the social narrative of confusing 5 year olds with 13 year olds is why the western world has become a nation of incels.
"Noose or pushed off a cliff" for someone who's at the earliest age people use to get married? This is why you end up with your kids being an evolutionary dead end and replaced with kids from countries that aren't this manipulated.
Position of power (teacher) over a person who would likely more vulnerable and easily influenced (under age student)
If men go to prison and possibly killed by other prisoners for doing the same to a 13 year old girl, I expect the same for her.
If you can't select out the millions who are over the age of consent, not in your care then quit teaching you degenerate as you're nothing more than a groomer.
It's just what's happening.
Somehow our culture villainizes encouraging younger people to get married and have kids...so all we get is this one-sided cultural message where every mention of sex and dating is "it's bad".
Then that's not enough for the older crowd, so they start taking those emotions that are appropriate if the person was say a 5 year old and keep moving up the ages. This month someone told me anyone having sex with a pre-20 year old should be jailed for life and that's just fine with them.
Yeah but that isn't "noose or pushed off a cliff". There's a situation where that makes sense but it's far away from what I see in this one.
I can remember a few teachers who I would have loved to see topless when I was in school. "Have those thoughts and they deserve to die" is a fucked up message.
Got nothing against the thoughts, it's EVERYTHING about the action. Choosing to act on it and rape (since an older person in their 20s having sex with someone before age of consent is rape) deserves punishment.
Since this is age of consent, the punishment varies on place, if you had a teacher having sex with a 17 year old student in the states, that's likely prison, a lot of Europe, disciplinary action and probable dismissal. No matter what because of the teacher/student dynamic it's just inappropriate at least, coercion at worst, if you're talking about trying to infantilise AFTER age of consent and there isn't this dynamic, that's retarded.
That's the problem though. Even though his point doesn't have much to do with this story, I can agree with him that the "age of consent" line is silly and arbitrarily, and keeps getting pushed up for ridiculous social reasons.
But you do have to set it somewhere. The punishment should be graduated based on the age of each side. So no a 13 year old isn't the same as a 5 year old. Still gross
I will agree as pre pubescent child is WAY different to teenager but we can't let it be known punishment wise and we should act like ANYTHING before age of consent if your in your 20s and more gets the axe.
Why? Because when people KNOW that a crime isn't going to be punished as harshly anymore, they tend to do the crime more and more and push the boundaries. It's bad enough people do that with looting and stealing, I DO NOT want that same attitude applied to sex.
I'm familiar with this tactic from "Rules For Radicals" but that's all it is, a tactic.
You seem to have no conscious about what you're doing.
We have age of consent laws that we agreed to as a society and for they're not hard to abide by. Don't have sex with someone older till this age.
If men get harshly punished for having sex with someone a year below that age, same punishment for women. Saying anything else is giving preferential treatment by gender.
If you don't agree with that, change the law. But for that you'd need public approval and sure you'll get it probably in far left areas but EVERYONE else will probably oppose you.
We're back to what I said to begin with, you're calling for the murder and killing of people - because they mildly upset your sensibilities.
Like I said in my post, in my grandparents generation people were getting setup to be married at this age. You are saying you want to kill and mutilate people for that exact same age range.
I did not claim the actions of this person were 100% right or didn't deserve any response / negative consequence.
I took issue with your sense of "morality" where you think a teen having consensual sex calls for killing and mutilating the people involved.
Yeah people here often go a bit over the top with things like that. Its kind of like a twisted form of virtue signaling. She should definitely lose her job and be barred from teaching, but death penalty is a bit much. I would say she's likely a bad person, but unless it was forced I would not immediately call her a monster.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
In related news have you ever seen one of these online cult-via-zoom group that these posters are part of? It's crazy to think we've recreated all that 70's "drink the coolaid" stuff.
I still stand by execution by curettage, still legal for D&C abortions in every US State and doesn’t violate the 8th amendment. Plus it would make great mulch/ fertilizer
Good thinking, reusing of biomass for a better use!
Only reason I included cliff is I wanted to do this to pedos
She's been charged with a 4th degree felony, which carries a 6-18mos sentence at most (commutable).
Even though her crime meets the legal definition for rape under Ohio's criminal code (2907.02), and still the fucking cucks won't charge her with rape (a 1st degree felony with sentences from 3-11 years).
She should also face charges for possession of child pornography under Ohio's criminal code (2907.323).
Like I said before, these women get maybe a year if it’s not deferred to probation
I don't see what you're gaining by taking the absurd hysteria they have towards girls and sex and grafting it onto guys as well.
Most people at 13 have their own porn collection.
Those countries we're sowly being being replaced by don't have age of consent massively past puberty.
You jump on this to create a nation of incels.
You’re a moron who bought the sexual revolution koolaid, congratulations. Those 13 year olds with porn collections develop slower mentally, are less likely to maintain healthy relationships, and are less likely to approach real women. You know the incels you just claimed were caused by not getting raped at 13.
You're describing yourself, moron.
People like you are why they're avoiding real life people and only watching porn.
No sweetheart, I have no problem getting girls or dates, but please show how desperate you are by simping for a rapist
People like you are a big part of the reason why the younger generation spends their time avoiding dating real people, and just sits addicted to porn.
I think what you're doing is called "pulling up the ladder behind you" where you make sure the next generation can't do the things you're doing so you don't have competition.
Let me guess women don’t find you attractive and instead of changing yourself you blame the men who did.
Imagine arguing that porn addiction and rape is the “healthy” mentality 😂
Once again sabotaging the younger generation seems to be your only goal.
I don't see the problem. When I was 13, I wanted to have sex. Unlike with girls, boys aren't harmed nor do they lose value when they have sex with an attractive member of the opposite sex. Unless the story is hiding something, it's not like he was being groomed into degenerate shit or exploited.
He isn't a child-child. 13 used to be old enough to hold a job and be head of household. It used to be old enough to go to war.
It is fucked up that she gets a laughably light sentence while the system pretends to be equal. But the truth is that men and women are different and one of those differences is that we're not really hurt by getting some action.
😂😂😂😂 you would be completely incorrect here. Time after time these incidents happen and the guy is ruined for life, but retards like you who think fantasies and reality are the same keep pushing degenerate stupidity.
Is the source of "Time after time... ruined for life" your own ass? Got any studies or examples? Gay abuse, and pre-adolescent abuse gets conflated, but I've never seen anything showing life harm to teenage boys having underage sex with adult women (meanwhile there is tons of evidence it causes harm in girls).
In my own life I know a guy who was in a similar situation as the news story. He seems fine, and said it was pretty cool and his only complaint is that it made disappointed when he grew up because it made him think getting chicks would be easier than what it turned out to be.
https://www.ptsd.va.gov/understand/types/sexual_trauma_male.asp
Funny how you couldn’t find a source supporting “it’s totally normal bro” except for “this one guy I know”. But since we’re talking about pulling things out of your ass do you have any studies that say they come out completely fine?
Where were all these slutty teachers when I was a kid??
Seriously, I would have signed up in 2 seconds.
Hahaha, you're seriously obsessed. I see you spamming this shit in various unrelated threads.
You touch kids, you go in the woodchipper. You don't touch kids, I don't care what animated porn you watch in private. This isn't complicated.
Regardless of whether anyone is right to spam unrelated threads, I can think of very good reasons to care about people being sexually attracted to children... even if it's "in private". Who is most likely to start touching kids?
Disclaimer: I have no idea about this 'controversy', though I'm inclined to side with the anti-side, I just don't think that "not caring" is as much of a virtue as is pretended.
What if AI is used to create ultra realistic child porn? Is it okay for a person to look at that because it’s “not hurting anyone”?
I would argue that anyone looking at illustrations of kiddie porn is absolutely harming someone: himself. And we do plenty to protect people from harming themselves, including outlawing various medical practices, sales of certain items and substances, and even certain behaviors that are deemed harmful to society despite “not hurting anyone else”. I’m perfectly happy putting “consumption of animated child porn” on that side of the line.
The whole idea that 'harm' is the only reason for imprisonment or (preventative) detention should be dispensed with. If someone is attracted to children, then we cannot police his mind or his speech, but we certainly can prevent him from acting on it in any way - including watching 'harmless' computer-generated images.
Would you let a loliporn enthusiast watch your children?
Why not?
Bruh, you're on day two of being butthurt about those debate threads derailing from the OP pointing out SoKorean porn bans from five years ago
I suggest letting it go before running the risk of mutating into an Imp.
Probably has something he's trying to hide on the issue.
I kind of doubt it. There's free-thought defenders who don't like Loli/shotacon but tolerate its existence, however, considering human instincts, the converse(?, not sure if right word) is probably true. There's people who are virulently against lolisho but aren't pedos themselves.
I believe there's four kinds of people in the pot:
There could be others types but these seem to be the common I've seen
I would add a subset of those that can enjoy LS but would openly kill you if you showed them REAL CP.
I'm just thinking of the traffic alone to those kinds of sites that offer LS, if EVERY ONE of them was a pedo then we'd need to flood the earth again to cleanse it. It's like equating violent video games to real world violence, the numbers alone don't match up compared to pedos within the pronoun parade.
Ah man, I forgot about that detail. They're usually the only pro-LS types I've come across.
It’s important to point out that your third group, which is people who are strictly anti-LS, is a supermajority of the population. If you showed that shit to 100 people, what percentage do you think would categorize it as child porn? 80%? 90%? 95%?
And before you compare this to the high percentages of people that go along with false vaccine and diversity narratives, remember that those consensus were created by insanely pervasive propaganda in every area of our lives. There isn’t really any preexisting normie consensus regarding loliporn, so cold polling the general population on this issue would result in mostly organic reactions. And I’m telling you, the overwhelming reaction would be “that’s child porn”.
Holy shit get lost already. Its obvious you are a newfag and you came in the sub, didnt like what it was and start whining about the place just like a leftist.
If you think its full of pedos then why dont you leave? why do you insist on staying around pedos?
That's fine, you're free to die on whatever hill for your beliefs. I just don't believe in wasting time on deaf ears and was trying to give you a hint.
i wonder how long before we reset the clock on you. Everytime someone gets super fixated and angry about loli its always cause they are hiding skeletons. Here's a long thread of examples of that happening
https://archive.is/Ia5ZH
I want to lock you in a room with AbleistSL and see what happens.
wtf i'm no fan of loli drawings but you'd have to be deranged to make this connection...
???
I've heard of that connection (like weed leading to hard drug use) but it doesn't have much to do with this news or people on this forum. Why is everyone who hates censorship expected to approve of statutory rape? Ok honestly I didn't read the story. Did the teacher groom the student with lolisho?