Win / KotakuInAction2
KotakuInAction2
Communities Topics Log In Sign Up
Sign In
Hot
All Posts
Settings
All
Profile
Saved
Upvoted
Hidden
Messages

Your Communities

General
AskWin
Funny
Technology
Animals
Sports
Gaming
DIY
Health
Positive
Privacy
News
Changelogs

More Communities

frenworld
OhTwitter
MillionDollarExtreme
NoNewNormal
Ladies
Conspiracies
GreatAwakening
IP2Always
GameDev
ParallelSociety
Privacy Policy
Terms of Service
Content Policy
DEFAULT COMMUNITIES • All General AskWin Funny Technology Animals Sports Gaming DIY Health Positive Privacy
KotakuInAction2 The Official Gamergate Forum
hot new rising top

Sign In or Create an Account

69
Games journalism is people who hate gamers interviewing people who hate games for people who don't play games.
posted 2 years ago by redneonglow 2 years ago by redneonglow +69 / -0

A modern version of the Frank Zappa quote:

"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read."

23 comments share
23 comments share save hide report block hide replies
Comments (23)
sorted by:
▲ 20 ▼
– Norenia 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

Yeah. We know.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 10 ▼
– deleted 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0
▲ 16 ▼
– Adamrises 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Their only purpose at their height was walkthroughs and cheats for games, of which many of them did provide a pretty great benefit. Especially in the pre and early internet era where you couldn't access anything like that otherwise.

They have had no use since, and any use they might have could be achieved by a random nobody on youtube doing the same task.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 6 ▼
– FatalConceit 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Back in the beginning they were the only form of contact for like minded people. In Australia in the 80's we would order from British C64 sellers from C&VG - would take months for the games to arrive - but the anticipation ...my god ...those there were the days

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 6 ▼
– MargarineMongoose 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I'll be honest I still miss honest to god level maps sometimes. Sure you can just watch someone run through the level on Youtube now, but having that top-down map with all the items and encounters clearly marked out was nice to have, and you only really got that from magazines or player's guides. GameFAQs never could quite compete on that front.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– Adamrises 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I was a prolific buyer of game guides for that very reason. Gamefaqs has better guides for actually accomplishing tasks because its written by mostly regular autistic players instead of professionals.

But the guides are always full of easy to read maps and appendixes that are just so nice to have on hand. And usually filled with nice art to fill in the spaces and give it SOVL. Shit I used to read guides for games I didn't own, just because there was something so magical about them.

The magazine versions were basically watered down versions of that. It was rare you got one for a game you actually owned due to their random nature, but when you did it was wonderful. I still have one for Brave Fencer Mushashi I managed to snag.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– MargarineMongoose 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I remember the player's guide for Secret of Mana being like that. It was formatted as a narrative as much as a guide, which served to help flesh out the story a bit. The artwork though, dear god the artwork was just a treat. Every chapter had a bunch of beautiful illustrations of all the various forms of the weapons. That guide just made that whole game feel like so much more than it was.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– Adamrises 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Honestly, a good guide could elevate a bland game into something way above what it actually was.

Its why to this day I usually play most games with one open, even if the guides themselves are boring text only Gamefaqs stuff. It just feels natural to do because for a time it was the dessert on top of games.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 15 ▼
– Smith1980 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Yea. I used to get gaming magazines all the time. I started noticing something off when I noticed an obsession with getting women in gaming because I knew women who were into games but also knew that men generally played certain games a lot more so that seemed odd

permalink save report block reply
▲ 14 ▼
– FuckGenderPolitics 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

From what I hear PC Gamer didn't always stand for Politically Correct Gamer.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 8 ▼
– rebuildingMyself 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Gone are the days of Nintendo Power. A magazine about vidya for vidya lovers (and how to beat certain games that were literally impossible otherwise unless by brute force autism)

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– SR388-SAX 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Nintendo Power was 100% a paid subscription to have advertising delivered to your home.

But it was still awesome.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 11 ▼
– ArtemisFoul 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Journalism in general is people who don't know anything about the topic, interviewing people who don't know anything about the topic (and/or paid PR critters), for people who don't know anything about the topic.

Also, https://www.epsilontheory.com/gell-mann-amnesia/

permalink save report block reply
▲ 4 ▼
– AlfredicEnglishRules 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Dave Barry described his early worm as a reporter. He was assigned sewage politics and interviewed big names in his local industry. He fully admits to never having a clue on the subject.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 7 ▼
– FatalConceit 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

It wasn't always like this.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– Hellsbells00 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

One of the earliest pulitzer prizes was given to the lefty goon that simped for stalin and helped to cover up the Holodomor - Walter Duranty of the New York Times. The spanish american war was instigated by the newspapers with false and sensationalized headlines, which worked to force the US from an isolationist nation to a colonial power with all of the expansion of federal power and meaningless sacrifices of american lives that entailed.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– FatalConceit 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Relevance to Gaming Journalism>?

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– SR388-SAX 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Once journalists infiltrated gaming publications and drove out the enthusiasts, we ended up with the same situation. They just lie and lie and lie.

The only difference is that lies of gaming journalists are less destructive than the lies of the New York Times.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– FatalConceit 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You've both gone off on a tangent. Go and find some Gaming Mags from the 80's and 90's - you won't find a woke comment - it was all about the games. Hence - "It wasn't always like this". I think Infocom Adventures have a better parse function than you 2

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– CatoTheElder 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Narrator: It was always like that.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 7 ▼
– Tourgen 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

games journalism is low-level contract work for the game's industry marketing departments.

modern games are progressive netflix scripts sprayed all over an Unreal 1st person shooter default demo framework like hot piss.

gamers are filthy, pedo furries arguing about which version of sonic is fastest, over and over, forever.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– voidposter 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Burgers?

permalink save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– BwonsamdiTheDead99 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's fucking stupid.

permalink save report block reply

Original 8chan Links to Gamer Gate:

.

The main GG discussion is on the videogames board: https://8chan.moe/v/

.

GamerGate archive is at https://8chan.moe/gamergatehq/

.

GamerGate Wiki:

https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php/Main_Page

. . . . . .

. . . . . .

Rules:

.

ONE: Do not advocate for illegal violence or post other illegal activity. (Be aware of your local laws.)

.

TWO: Don't threaten, harass, or impersonate users. Also: don't be a psycho. New users will be held to a higher standard.

.

THREE: Do not post porn.

.

FOUR: NSFW/NSFL content must be flaired NSFW.

.

FIVE: No vote manipulation. Do not break communities.win's features.

.

SIX: No spam or reposts. Do not make more than 5 threads a day.

.

SEVEN: Do not post falsehoods and hoaxes that are obvious to an uncontroversial degree.

. . . . . .

. . . . . .

Moderation Logs:

.

(Two different versions, Scored has more features and is cleaner, but .win let's you see a few more details in certain instances.)

  • Scored
  • .win

Moderators

  • DomitiusOfMassilia
  • C
  • BandageBandolier
  • CarmenOfSandiego
  • The_Shadow_of_Intent
  • SocraticMethod1
  • Kienan
  • Smith1980
Message the Moderators

Terms of Service | Privacy Policy

2026.02.01 - 8wn6p (status)

Copyright © 2026.

Terms of Service | Privacy Policy