Who knew that saying the Castlevania series taking a severe leap from the lore by making the Church absurdly evil is a bad thing would trigger you so much.
The Castlevania animated series made Sypha "a speaker that was persecuted by the Church". when in the original story there's no such thing as "speakers" and she was a Christian raised by the Church.
And "speakers" in the animated series are normads with magical powers and who move from place to place to spread what they think is "right" , on a population that doesnt like them. And these speakers are seen as the good guys by the show
It sounds really jewish. Probably written by a jewish writer
Before you joined in on this stupidity everyone already knew you were a barely literate fool but most of us tolerated you and welcomed you here to learn. Now you've joined a mentally defective clown in it's campaign to antagonize the whole userbase because someone posts bible verses.
This one is more abstract and one that I'd readily point to when I was an atheist and it is a good point to fixate upon because it really does come out of nowhere and with very little context. It is almost unanimously agreed upon that this passage pertains to the authority Elisha represented - granted, I believe this reaches deeper into a context that is recurring within the old testament where younger generations grow resentful and contest this authority and are very often cursed having done so, going back to the curse of Ham - respect of one's elders and of culture is of particular emphasis. I believe Judges details some of this progressive trend towards resentment aswell. Worse things than bears have come to devour those who hated tradition and law, especially in those times.
God within the old testament is very intermeshed with worldly circumstance, nation, heritage, and the transcendental sublime; Jesus' appearance shifted the occulus to the latter.
I am someone who simply lives the truth of the word and it took a long time to get to this point.
I still believe that the scientific abstractions are very useful in explaining natural phenomena, but my beliefs are also interconnected with my own admittedly idiosyncratic understandings pertaining the germ of language as a living entity, a self-decoding reality, an almost kabbalistic understanding of our simulacrums through our technological advancements, the meta primordial soup of ergregoriac super organisms, and the true mystical Christ-body and its transcendental singularity within the event of Jesus, etc.
He who controls the past, controls the present, controls the future. Self-prophecy is extremely important whether you believe in a god or not, things that we take as even mere fable have a direct lineage in our actions and are directly manifest if not biologically significant in even the most secular sense.
Don't let doctrines of any kind fool you, and if Christ should call - answer.
it really does come out of nowhere and with very little context.
This is the key to the passage.
It's easily understandable if you realize it does NOT come out of nowhere, which requires understanding the context.
I'll respect your choice to remain ignorant because if you wanted to know, this is easily knowable. For a processed atheist it's simply unimportant. OP is off his rocker to even try to address this.
I'll respect your choice to remain ignorant because if you wanted to know, this is easily knowable.
You dastardly agent of synchronicity, I have been lazy and wanton. Back through the old testament I go, though to my "processed atheist" eyes, it seemed like a precarious thing to include among everything Elisha would go on to do. As I saw it, it was a transfer of authority and an illustration of exactly that and the general unfaithfulness among the kings and the people throughout. What were the two kingdoms of israel and judah if not children before bears?
Although the age is determined by language and can't be discovered in English.
Which translation do you recommend?
Their taunting phrase was saying if Elisha was really a Prophet, he would have already ascended into heaven in a chariot of fire like Elijah did.
Admittedly I have set the old testament down for a long time, and I realize combing over this that I was reading the NIV iteration - which makes no mention of this but instead illustrates them as saying "Get out of here baldy!". Upon checking NASB, I saw your case and point.
I don't feel I veered off too far from this in later posts, since this does recurr in its various ways, but this is a detail that is still important and I am shocked that it doesn't make its way in some other translations.
The typical atheist talking point is that Elisha killed them because they made fun of him for being bald. No translation will really convey what's going on here, it takes deeper study. Generally speaking the NIV is one of the worst, but it's still a Bible and is helpful most of the time.
Best versions are NASB 1995 or older, NJKJV, and KJV. In no particular order. This is because of the effort to translate the original texts faithfully. Usually comparing these three isn't going to yield a lot of insight because they're pretty similar in most places, although they translate different source material so some differences exist. The NKJV I'm working with now does a good job of showing these differences in footnotes most of the time, so it's a good balance of the two.
For better understanding you want to be able to compare to something that takes a different approach to translation: MSG (The Message) YLT (Young's Literal Translation) and AMP (Amplified) are all helpful for this, each in different ways.
All of these are available on biblegateway.com. HCSB (Holcomb Christian Study Bible) is there too, which is really impressive re: the effort they took. GW (God's Word) is highly acclaimed by scholars but wasn't complete last I knew, they're still translating the OT.
I definitely think a Christian should emphasize the NT more, and exhaust all the meaning you can get out of that before trying to read the entire OT. Starting in the Gospel of John and reading straight through to the end of the Bible is a good approach for a beginner, without slowing down for greater understanding. If you're familiar with all this, using the alternate versions instead of a commentary could be a likely next step. MSG is especially good with Paul. Comparing it to NKJV or straight KJV helps.
Oddball gory stories from the OT pulled from IHateGod.com like OP has done here are NOT the way to go about it, lol.
Is it? Give reading the whole thing a try. Turn your back on God and you will be hunted by the lion and the lamb - this is a lesson that repeats itself over and over throughout the old testament.
The moral seems to be along the lines of - "those with superficial understandings of God's guidance shouldn't play around bears, for they will devour even the innocent among you".
And pray tell, who was cast out to the wilderness once more to be hunted by the lion, the lamb, and all beast bearing crests after those resentful children of israel turned their backs to the Lord their God and mocked his authority yet again when they flayed his skin and thrust a hateful spear into his side?
It was their generations onward - their children and their children's children, condemned to scurry the nations of Christendom and foreign gods like a hoard of rats being chased from one hole to another hunted all the same.
Who knew that saying the Castlevania series taking a severe leap from the lore by making the Church absurdly evil is a bad thing would trigger you so much.
The Castlevania animated series made Sypha "a speaker that was persecuted by the Church". when in the original story there's no such thing as "speakers" and she was a Christian raised by the Church. And "speakers" in the animated series are normads with magical powers and who move from place to place to spread what they think is "right" , on a population that doesnt like them. And these speakers are seen as the good guys by the show
It sounds really jewish. Probably written by a jewish writer
... And yet you go and do it more yourself?
Before you joined in on this stupidity everyone already knew you were a barely literate fool but most of us tolerated you and welcomed you here to learn. Now you've joined a mentally defective clown in it's campaign to antagonize the whole userbase because someone posts bible verses.
Begone.
So how large is your fedora?
Based bears
This one is more abstract and one that I'd readily point to when I was an atheist and it is a good point to fixate upon because it really does come out of nowhere and with very little context. It is almost unanimously agreed upon that this passage pertains to the authority Elisha represented - granted, I believe this reaches deeper into a context that is recurring within the old testament where younger generations grow resentful and contest this authority and are very often cursed having done so, going back to the curse of Ham - respect of one's elders and of culture is of particular emphasis. I believe Judges details some of this progressive trend towards resentment aswell. Worse things than bears have come to devour those who hated tradition and law, especially in those times.
God within the old testament is very intermeshed with worldly circumstance, nation, heritage, and the transcendental sublime; Jesus' appearance shifted the occulus to the latter.
I am someone who simply lives the truth of the word and it took a long time to get to this point.
I still believe that the scientific abstractions are very useful in explaining natural phenomena, but my beliefs are also interconnected with my own admittedly idiosyncratic understandings pertaining the germ of language as a living entity, a self-decoding reality, an almost kabbalistic understanding of our simulacrums through our technological advancements, the meta primordial soup of ergregoriac super organisms, and the true mystical Christ-body and its transcendental singularity within the event of Jesus, etc.
Yes.
Get used to leftymeme length posts, I will start a fucking substack in your comments section if that hamsterwheel is cooerced to move.
I'm going to give you a piece of advice.
He who controls the past, controls the present, controls the future. Self-prophecy is extremely important whether you believe in a god or not, things that we take as even mere fable have a direct lineage in our actions and are directly manifest if not biologically significant in even the most secular sense.
Don't let doctrines of any kind fool you, and if Christ should call - answer.
This is the key to the passage.
It's easily understandable if you realize it does NOT come out of nowhere, which requires understanding the context.
I'll respect your choice to remain ignorant because if you wanted to know, this is easily knowable. For a processed atheist it's simply unimportant. OP is off his rocker to even try to address this.
You dastardly agent of synchronicity, I have been lazy and wanton. Back through the old testament I go, though to my "processed atheist" eyes, it seemed like a precarious thing to include among everything Elisha would go on to do. As I saw it, it was a transfer of authority and an illustration of exactly that and the general unfaithfulness among the kings and the people throughout. What were the two kingdoms of israel and judah if not children before bears?
It's really much simpler than that.
Elisha had nothing to do with it.
The "children" involved were at least 13 years old, and maybe as old as 32.
Their taunting phrase was saying if Elisha was really a Prophet, he would have already ascended into heaven in a chariot of fire like Elijah did.
God said we'll see about that ...
Read through it to get context and see if you get anything different. Although the age is determined by language and can't be discovered in English.
Which translation do you recommend?
Admittedly I have set the old testament down for a long time, and I realize combing over this that I was reading the NIV iteration - which makes no mention of this but instead illustrates them as saying "Get out of here baldy!". Upon checking NASB, I saw your case and point.
I don't feel I veered off too far from this in later posts, since this does recurr in its various ways, but this is a detail that is still important and I am shocked that it doesn't make its way in some other translations.
The typical atheist talking point is that Elisha killed them because they made fun of him for being bald. No translation will really convey what's going on here, it takes deeper study. Generally speaking the NIV is one of the worst, but it's still a Bible and is helpful most of the time.
Best versions are NASB 1995 or older, NJKJV, and KJV. In no particular order. This is because of the effort to translate the original texts faithfully. Usually comparing these three isn't going to yield a lot of insight because they're pretty similar in most places, although they translate different source material so some differences exist. The NKJV I'm working with now does a good job of showing these differences in footnotes most of the time, so it's a good balance of the two.
For better understanding you want to be able to compare to something that takes a different approach to translation: MSG (The Message) YLT (Young's Literal Translation) and AMP (Amplified) are all helpful for this, each in different ways.
All of these are available on biblegateway.com. HCSB (Holcomb Christian Study Bible) is there too, which is really impressive re: the effort they took. GW (God's Word) is highly acclaimed by scholars but wasn't complete last I knew, they're still translating the OT.
I definitely think a Christian should emphasize the NT more, and exhaust all the meaning you can get out of that before trying to read the entire OT. Starting in the Gospel of John and reading straight through to the end of the Bible is a good approach for a beginner, without slowing down for greater understanding. If you're familiar with all this, using the alternate versions instead of a commentary could be a likely next step. MSG is especially good with Paul. Comparing it to NKJV or straight KJV helps.
Oddball gory stories from the OT pulled from IHateGod.com like OP has done here are NOT the way to go about it, lol.
Cry more, leftist.
Is it? Give reading the whole thing a try. Turn your back on God and you will be hunted by the lion and the lamb - this is a lesson that repeats itself over and over throughout the old testament.
The moral seems to be along the lines of - "those with superficial understandings of God's guidance shouldn't play around bears, for they will devour even the innocent among you".
And pray tell, who was cast out to the wilderness once more to be hunted by the lion, the lamb, and all beast bearing crests after those resentful children of israel turned their backs to the Lord their God and mocked his authority yet again when they flayed his skin and thrust a hateful spear into his side?
It was their generations onward - their children and their children's children, condemned to scurry the nations of Christendom and foreign gods like a hoard of rats being chased from one hole to another hunted all the same.
Nigger
Get a room already
Because we keep hoping that there's not two massive fucking retards that have figured out how to get to this website.
"Some" boys. Then it says bears got 42 of them .. just how many "yoots" were we talking here?