Russian Parliament outlaws gender change "to protect citizens"
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That's my full statement, 'gender change' is just self mutilation with a better PR.
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Honestly, I’m ok with people in their 30s doing it. Clears out the gene pool to people who are dumb enough to do it. Outlaw it pre-21, though.
And outlaw advocating it in elementary and high schools.
Unfortunately, we've already seen how this slipper slope plays out. Let them do it at all and they'll proceed to groom children into it and try to expand the envelope.
Either we outlaw people being weirdos, or we allow normal people to use their judgement and "discriminate" against weirdos.
The idea that you can be a weirdo and I can't fire you for it is tyranny.
Freedom of association has been outlawed for nearly 60 years
Civil Rights Act
It's disgusting at any age. Why are doctors being paid to mutilate the mentally ill? It's a travesty of the highest order. When you allow this shit, and allow these people an inch, we steadily lose all sense of meaning and truth.
But those 30+ year olds are likely as not to have kids already.
If you wanted to clean the gene pool, you'd be in favor of pushing it on children.
Now criminalize crossdressing.
And make it a capital offense if it's done with the intent to deceive.
also criminalize sodomy
People say this is based, but I do not believe someone stupid enough to castrate themselves should be prevented from doing so. The genetic pool does not need such contributions. Separate the wheat from the chaff
You realize that it's licensed doctors and hospitals doing this to mentally ill people that have been groomed into it in most cases?
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RIP the very few people with legit gender dysphoria. If the troons didn't try to force this shit on people and kids, I guarantee Russia wouldn't have done this.
Is "gender change" even the best option for that very small minority of people? Admittedly I'm not well read on it, but I would wager therapy aimed at making them accept what they were born as would be much more effective than chopping off their dick and calling them a woman.
We don't chop off people's limbs if they have limb dysphoria. to me even gender dysphoria seems like a made up first world problem for people who have too much time on their hands, you don't see trash pickers in slums in India talking about feeling not matching their body genders
If someone has pika, you don't treat it by handing them a bowl of coins.
Delusions are treated with denial.
indeed, therapy should always be the first resort. most people who claim to have gender dysphoria can be talked down and come to accept themselves if they were just given the opportunity to talk to the right people. there are still those where this wouldn't work. after extensive therapy if they cannot come to accept themselves, then hormone therapy would be the next step. sex change surgery should always be a last resort with a very high bar for approval, but I still maintain it should not be banned.
Agreed. They should try the correct hormones though. Maybe try suppressing estrogen in men / testosterone in women for a while, see if that helps.
There's no such thing as "sex change surgery". Any doctor cutting off a patient's non-cancerous functional sex organs is breaking his oath to Do No Harm and must be punished.
What the fuck? Just give people hormones? That's not without consequences.
Not only hormones. Hormone blockers too!
My point was have they even tried? A large aspect of the "condition" is social contagion and sexual fetish but I'm not convinced that a small number aren't caused by hormone imbalances including problems with our food and medicine as RFK hinted at recently. Soyboy meme exists for a reason. Hormones are already in our food supply and could be affecting how young people emotionally react to the world.
So if the hormones they give now as part of "gender affirming care" bullshit supposedly help trannies feel like the opposite sex they should have been born in, then they clearly have a real effect, so really they should try the opposite drugs - in combination with other psychiatric treatments including radical "deprogramming" like is done with cult members.
No I'm not a doctor and this is unqualified opinion, but wtf have they done to help so far? They've made the problem worse to make money.
I see what you mean now, I misunderstood. I would prefer people get out of the medical pharmaceutical complex and go more natural. We shouldn't be filling people with any of these hormones imo unless we have definitive proof of inadequate levels.
That is absurd reasoning. Utter non sequitur.
Therapy is why they get to the point of wanting to cut their balls off. It's the first step into the medical establishments plan to get these people to throw their lives away. Who do you think is pushing all this made up diagnoses?
People act like gender dysphoria is more common than it really is.
And if it is becoming more common, it is a direct result of the "social justice" movement treating women better
more like the social justice movement pushing it on young impressionable minds, instilling rapid onset gender dysphoria then getting them addicted to hormone pills before they can become the wiser.
This. true actual gender dysphoria is very very rare. so rare that most people will go their entire lifetimes without encountering someone with it. yet it still exists.
If someone is schizophrenic, the way to cure them isn't to pretend to be talking to their imaginary friends yourself.
In both cases, the treatment should be about making them accept reality, in order to cure their mental illness. Cutting off their genitals isn't a viable solution.
if you look at my post history you know that I'm no fan of troons. pretty much everyone you meet who claims to be """transgender""" is either doing it for clout, fulfillment of a sexual fetish, or were relentlessly bullied into it by their school teachers and their friends.
all that being said, I have known one of the few individuals for whom hormone therapy ended up changing their lives for the better. this individual was an acquaintance in college well before the term transgender was even coined. this individual always wore long flowing hair, painted his nails, spoke with a high voice, and was a big fan of extremely cutesy and girly media. if his behaviors were sexual in nature, it was not apparent to anyone else on campus. before going on hormone therapy, this individual was fun to hang out with but was always skittish and on edge. after hormone therapy in deciding to call himself a woman, the now she immediately became more relaxed. she was thinking more clearly, doing better in social interactions, and no longer seemed stressed all the time. this individual is still, of course, a man. But slipping into the delusion as a coping mechanism made her life visibly easier. she's also not a cunt about it, and actually respects people who do not want to play along, so I use her preferred pronouns out of respect.
don't get me wrong, I do not think this individual is fully mentally sane and I fear for the damage to her body down the road from the hormone therapy. but I do find her trustworthy and genuine, and that is good enough for me.
If it's an actual a disorder now Russian doctors can focus on finding an actual cure.
Fair, but I'm not so convinced there is a cure and I would love to be proven wrong. the fact is, there are people in this world for whom hormone therapy and sexual reassignment surgery is a net positive. these people are exceedingly rare. so rare that you would not expect to see one even if you met every college student in every University for an entire state.
but just because they are rare doesn't mean they don't exist. now that the troons have turned their medical treatment into a political tool, as well as a dress, they have poisoned the conversation surrounding the legitimate medical coping mechanism that these rare individuals previously had access to.
It is another case of the Left destroying something good when used appropriately.
These defects should be looked up in a nuthouse and studied. Normal people should have the right to live their lives without having to deal with them.
So do we lock up all the schizos? the autists? the retards? if someone can function with a mental disorder they shouldn't have to be locked up. conversely, no one should have to change the way they live or interact with people to accommodate for someone's mental illness.
The troons have proven they aren't capable of functioning in normal society. That is why they cross dress in public, they are slaves to their fetish. If they weren't they would do it in private like weirdos have done for centuries before our current retarded era.
Do we have to wait until "ITS MA'AM" actually kills someone to do something about him?
If they can't function without making life difficult for normal people then absolutely. Ideally we'd treat them so it's not necessary, but the general public shouldn't have to put up with that shit to be "compassionate". That's how we ended up in Clown World to begin with.