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Crowder gets louder in Texas divorce court (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by xleb2 2 years ago by xleb2 +22 / -0
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– dekachin 27 points 2 years ago +27 / -0

Crowder is an alpha male who leads a very stressful & highly successful life. He didn't get there by being a "nice guy".

That little video she leaked wasn't abusive or wrong at all. He was being kindof a dick to her, but she was baiting him & setting him up.

Alphas respond to being emotionally hurt by being dicks. That's just how personalities are. Little pussy ass bitches online judge them & go "omg so abooosive". Nah.

Anyway Crowder's mistake was getting with this chick too early & staying with her after he got rich. Never do that if there is the slightest doubt she won't be on board to support you.

Instead, upgrade to the superior supportive woman after you get rich who you can knock up & who will raise your kids.

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– Kienan 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

Crowder is an alpha male who leads a very stressful & highly successful life. He didn't get there by being a "nice guy".

That little video she leaked wasn't abusive or wrong at all. He was being kindof a dick to her, but she was baiting him & setting him up.

Yes and no. If there's one time to be especially nice to your wife, and let her get away with some shit, it's when she's pregnant with your child. He was demanding she do chores and stuff, and being a total dick. I agree it's not the full story, or the end of it, but it was still pretty out of line, in my opinion. It was also, though, only a snapshot. We don't know what happened in the seconds, minutes, or weeks before. Like you said, she seemed to be pushing him too, and outbursts do happen. But he still behaved pretty badly, I'd say. It's not enough to write him off, or anything, but that...wasn't the best.

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– dekachin 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

it was still pretty out of line, in my opinion

Absent outright violence or something, I don't stick my nose in people's relationship dynamics.

I've dated crazy women & said very mean things to them - which they 100% deserved - but if you had me on hidden camera you'd think I was a monster because you wouldn't know the evil shit the girl did to deserve it. Just like if I was setting up hidden cameras on hoes, I could paint them as monsters, too, but men don't play the little hidden camera game - manipulative bitches do.

Women are good at manipulating & men who have aggressive alpha personalities are very easy to cast as abusive when they're not.

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– current_horror 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Anyone who has dated a BPD girl knows that women are not inherently good or trustworthy.

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– dekachin 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

BPD women are demons.

The succubus versions of BPD can be a lot of fun early on, though.

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– Kienan 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Absent outright violence or something, I don't stick my nose in people's relationship dynamics.

Agreed, but if it's out there, someone else posts a link to it, and we're all talking about it, I think I'll say my own opinion. Not saying cancel him or anything, just that I wasn't personally a fan of what I saw.

His wife seems nasty too, and she's also probably letting her lawyer talk her into things too. The 'punching holes in walls' thing is pretty hard to prove, and not being there for the birth during lockdowns and while recovering from surgery is a bit far too. It's amazing what lawyers will try to get you to say. I know people who have some real horror stories.

This is a smear on Steven, but doesn't mean I can't also object to some of how he acted.

I've dated crazy women & said very mean things to them - which they 100% deserved - but if you had me on hidden camera you'd think I was a monster because you wouldn't know the evil shit the girl did to deserve it.

Yup, that's definitely a thing. My only real complaint is that she was pregnant, and I think men should make an extra effort during those times. But, yeah, it's not damning...I just didn't like it.

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– deleted 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0
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– dekachin 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Do you have an age gap with this chick & are you her sugar daddy?

Because if I was legitimately dating - not just fucking - a bitch & she behaved that way I would have crushed her self esteem.

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– TomSeeSaw 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

still pretty out of line, in my opinion

though, only a snapshot

she seemed to be pushing him too

outbursts do happen

What is even the point of this entire comment?

Couples are going to talk to each other however, and if you think a pregnant woman is a magical hallmark movie gift, you really haven't experienced anything. Wait till post partum and enjoy the gift more. Getting a tongue lashing when she's been winding him up is steam being let out.

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– Ahaus667 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Yes and no. If there's one time to be especially nice to your wife, and let her get away with some shit, it's when she's pregnant with your child.

And he was recovering from massive surgery and was (during said video) recently in the er because his lungs were collapsing with an episode from trying to recover.

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– MattTheBlack 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah dude was literally on deaths door but she's pregnant so she gets a pass is a weird take

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Crowder made this point void when he complained about not being able to go to the gym in the video.

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– Ahaus667 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Crowder made this point void when he complained about not being able to go to the gym in the video

Because no one that has had major surgery has to go through physical rehabilitation right?

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

If it was post surgical physical rehab then that would take precedence over any other errand, because you would literally need that to recover.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

upgrade to the superior supportive woman after you get rich who you can knock up & who will raise your kids.

Literally insane. If he had done this you'd be posting about how he was retarded for marrying a gold digger.

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– dekachin 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You don't have the slightest clue about what I would be posting about.

You guys are really paranoid about gold diggers. Maybe you're too dumb to be able to tell the difference. shrug.

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– AntonioOfVenice 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Instead, upgrade to the superior supportive woman after you get rich

A gold-digger? Seems like the best insurance against that is to stay with the woman who liked you when you were a poor bastard.

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– dekachin 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

No, a woman is not a gold digger because she gives you credit for your success.

A "gold digger" only refers to a woman whose sole purpose is to extract money from you.

You're looking for a supportive, submissive partner who is willing to boost your ambitions instead of having her own.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

No, a woman is not a gold digger because she gives you credit for your success.

Agreed, but the threat of gold diggery is much greater when you are successful.

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– dekachin 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I agree, but I've dated many, many women & in my experience gold diggers are not only very obvious, their general personality traits will be diametrically opposed to the things a rich, successful man ought to be looking for anyway [emotional attachment, empathy, submissive, agreeable, supportive, etc] that there should be no chance any woman like that makes it past a few dates.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– dekachin 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

What is someone submissively cheering you on going to do?

  • sex

  • emotional support

do you not understand the concept of a relationship?

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– Vebent 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Eh, I have mixed feelings on the whole thing. I still watch him every once in a while. I’m already watching him less because of the Dave Landau interview. What I will say about the situation is that it seems like he brings his work home with him. Because of how he lectures her on what makes a great wife or something like that. That’s my only complaint. Well, that and figuring out why the hell he only has one car.

People like to bring up that she’s pregnant. Ok, she’s not disabled or anything. She just has more physical limitations. And it’s just her and Steven. She shouldn’t have that much to do anyways.

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– Stumpy 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I agree, pregnancy has no bearing on this case. It’s just another cudgel.

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– TomSeeSaw 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Being an alpha also makes you live in denial that you are being played. Hence why so many alphas have all their earnings eaten by managers. Whether they have the nose or not.

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– dekachin 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I don't think that's true at all. One doesn't cause the other.

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– TomSeeSaw 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

How very alpha of you.

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– Kienan 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

That doesn't work either!

Nah, memes aside, I do feel bad for everyone involved.

It's he said she said, divorces are messy.

Crowder certainly acted a right bitch in the video that was released, though. Jeez, I don't care how "trad" you are, if there's one time to simp for your wife it's when she's pregnant with your child. Instead he was acting like he was significantly superior, doing various shit tests, and just generally being a bitch. That's pretty hard to rationalize, although emotions can also be very hot from both people during a pregnancy. Still, as they say, not a good look. Although we're only seeing one side.

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– deleted 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0
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– Kienan 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Running theory is there's DailyWire involvement...

Could be.

...I'm always vaguely bemused though that it's the ones that preach family values the most that always go through this sort of shit.

Although I am critical of Crowder on this, I will defend him and say I don't think this really rises to those levels. He could have behaved better, absolutely, but it was a spat, not abuse. He got emotional, he lost his cool, he acted like a bitch, but I think that's a little different than the level of hypocrisy some 'family values' types have been caught up in.

There's no proof/allegations of physical abuse, there's no proof/allegations of affairs, etc. I criticize his actions, but I'm not even calling him a hypocrite. Just someone who occasionally acts like a childish asshole.

This is why I don't trust the tradcon types mostly, they always seem so fake.

Everyone is fake, to some extent. Everyone is trying to show off their own image and opinions, even if they don't always live up to them. Just because they fail, doesn't mean they didn't really hold those beliefs.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Running theory is there's DailyWire involvement in this and they basically went after him over him leaking their contract details.

According to the Very Online Right, literally everything is one exceedingly unlikely conspiracy or another.

Maybe the aliens got mad that he revealed their presence and are now working against them in co-operation with Klaus Schwab.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

IDK. I'm not so sure you should be simping for anyone, even your wife, because she's bound to get resentful of it just like every other woman is. For the most part, what I saw was bickering. One from a woman who was pregnant, and another from a guy who was disabled from a heart condition.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Pectus excavatum isn't a disabling condition. Crowder was working out at the gym at the time by his own admission in the video and got a purple belt in BJJ (probably even brown or black by now) years ago.

There's even a top 15 UFC fighter with uncorrected pectus excavatum. This idea that it was a mortal or even disabling problem was planted by Crowder.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'm going to chose to take his word on his own medical condition until I see something far more blatant, like fake hospital trips.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I'm not saying he was totally lying, but I think he exaggerated his doctor's comments. He did have pectus excavatum and I'm sure it affected his cardiovascular capability. Everything else is suspect though.

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– MegoThor 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Even the so-called “conservative” ones will turn on you, men.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

People have disputes. It isn't necessarily someone 'turning' on you.

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– MegoThor 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

“I’m going to take your children and half your money.”

Betrayal.

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– tappydans 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Imp we know it’s you.

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– smokeypanda 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

I still don't get how an independent news reporter chose Ring security cameras, a company which shares footage with law-enforcement.

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– Filo76 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

This and the way he treated Dave Landau has soured me to Crowder. I don’t watch or listen to him anymore. It’s a shame, as I agreed with most of what he says.

I did catch glimpses from time to time of a very controlling personality. It’s a reflection of who he is and not conservatives though.

That being said, I doubt he meant that fathers were useless. I’ve rarely seen anyone more outspoken about the consequences of not having a father present in the home. Indeed his father is a frequent guest on the show (nepotism maybe? Who knows but his Dad is funny in his own right).

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– Gizortnik 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

I did catch glimpses from time to time of a very controlling personality. It’s a reflection of who he is and not conservatives though.

I'm not so sure I agree. I think any man who is a tradcon is going to set order and boundaries to what the women in their life can do. That's actually the point: to ground women to the material world, away from the metaphysical one; and to give them a safe space to build a family and community in.

Imbued in that is giving commands that she doesn't like. It's not an attitude that is very commonly seen in the west anymore, and it's certainly unheard of in public. "You will not take the car" is something that I don't think most men are used to even thinking about saying, and absolutely don't say it publicly when they do.

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– raptor_jesus 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

"You will not take the car" is a completely reasonable statement even for a woman to say to a man when the one trying to take the car has a medical condition that can cause paralysis.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/guillain-barre-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20362793

Edit: it's why despite their considerable wealth they only had one car. Because one driver.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

My original intent was to point out that "You will not take the car" is something a western man is typically not prepared to say to a woman. Literally, not the other way around. "Fuck you, I'm taking the car." is much more palatable from a woman to a man; than "You will not take the car" is from a man to a woman.

A TradCon is pre-disposed to allowing a man to say this to a woman, because a man is setting boundaries. Most western societies don't want men to do this, and instead want men to treat women the way Steve Harvey treats his daughters: give them whatever they want, whenever they want, and never ever say no.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

All the defenses of Crowder are explanations of trad theory. The problem isn't the theory, it's the specifics of what he said in the video that make him a selfish dick. If you're familiar with Crowder's internet history, which most people here aren't, this also tracks with a lot of other stuff he's done.

I wouldn't want a dude like him marrying my sister or daughter.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I've seen him for years, and I'd say that his biggest problem is actually being a sniping asshole, and it a bit sensitive on the wrong subject, that can send him off the rails. Or simply: he's a prick.

I wouldn't want him marrying my sister or daughter because I know there's some subject he'll be an asshole about, but not because he's an abusive control freak.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah idk if we disagree that much. The control freak criticism is mostly speculation that he purposely had only one car, but that's just a side issue. The problem the video presents, along with many incidents and employee departures over the years, is that Crowder is, as you put it, a fragile prick.

I do see a need to dominate and bully other people though. Which, again, prick.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The control freak criticism is mostly speculation that he purposely had only one car, but that's just a side issue.

That's where we disagree with the most. Every person should have two cars, even if you live alone. Getting along when one car goes down can be a huge problem.

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– evilplushie 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

No one cares. Crowder will still pull in huge numbers on his streams and the same 5 people whining about it on rumble will still whine

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