But it didn't have to be. Celebrating the day a Republican president freed the slaves could have been a positive thing, but instead it's a day for Democrats to reinforce the indoctrination that keeps black Americans hobbled and voting blue.
Well, it used to be Emancipation Day, right? It was recognized - and with picnics - for as long as I can remember, in the form of peaceful picnics they'd hold in Windsor parks (Detroit just didn't have the kind of green space the Canadian side does, so organizers would rent space there.) Of course, this was way back when Windsor cops still had a height/weight requirement ....
It just wasn't made a huge big deal of otherwise, it'd get a mention on the local news and that was about it.
This is something actually more sinister. It was the day a federal military force that had become the defacto military governor of the state through warfare, declared the mass removal of property rights.
Sure sure, abolish slavery. But the people celebrating it are also the same people who think all property rights should be abolished.
There will be another celebration for the the climate on the day that a soldier puts a gun to your head and steals your car.
For what it’s worth, symbolism will do nothing to liberate a marginalized group. At a time when racial disparities continue to worsen and white supremacy feels even more visibly prevalent—corporations and city/state governments bandwagoning on Juneteenth celebrations do very little to combat this reality.
If black people are still “marginalized” then it’s an entirely insolvent solution to listen/pander/propagate to black people as doing everything you demand has only made things far worse.
I’m glad he phrased it this way, with “feels,” because that’s all it is, a feeling. The media plays it up beyond all reality and the lefties similarly insist that everyone who disagrees with them is part of white supremacy, it’s just an endless feedback loop between the media and the leftie activists.
Yea. Also I remember people being outraged they weren’t taught about it in school and I said well it’s local to south Texas so why would Oregon (where the lady was from) be teaching it. Growing up in Oklahoma I learned a lot of Native American history because that’s a good chunk of Oklahoma history. I bet people in New England learn a ton about revolutionary war. At least I’m sure they did at one time.
Mainstreaming Juneteenth is kind of a perfect example of everything the woke do in their culture war, because it simultaneously (1) is the kind of thing they can make others feel like they have to participate in (and wokies can scream at them if they don’t) while also (2) being very fraught with the likelihood that the non-wokies will “do it wrong” or “get it wrong,” (and in that case wokies can scream at them for THAT). I don’t have a single problem with the holiday, groups can decide what’s important to them and when/how to celebrate, but I think what I just described is an obvious phenomenon that pervades every last bit of wokeness and the ways by which they seek to make cultural gains.
Add to it, what does this dopey-ass writer expect? His movement constantly demands that other people and organizations “see” them, celebrate them, just stfu and include them. Making the holiday mainstream is the kind of thing they wanted. Now they got it and they don’t want it anymore? I don’t really believe that (I think the dopey-ass writer is just executing the second technique I mentioned above) but if they don’t like, what happens if it gets taken away again? I bet then this dopey-ass writer would put out an article saying how awesome Juneteenth was when it was just him and the fam, that it became lame when they desegregated it, but that now giving it back to just the fam is like totally the worst thing ever. Can’t win with these cocksuckers, so people should just stop playing.
Don't forget it's constructed out of a complete fiction.
I seriously doubt Juneteenth was celebrated continuously in Galveston, TX. I want photographic evidence of the 1927 Juneteenth celebration in Galveston. Funny thing is, I know there isn't one from Detroit in 2009. Wasn't one in Harlem in 1962, either.
It seems like it doesn't even occur in the general consciousness prior to 2015. It's a complete and total gaslighting.
The only reason Juneteenth became a thing was because Saint Floyd died in May, and it was the soonest "black" holiday to beat people over the head with the following month. It would make 100x more sense to have a federal holiday for the Emancipation Proclamation, but that would be in September so it was too far away. Instead we got a holiday with possibly the stupidest, least descriptive name ever, and the holiday is for slaves being freed in one state.
The Emancipation Proclamation was announced in September, but it went into effect January 1st.
And not one state. One city, and not just any kind of freed, but freed under order of military occupation (which in and of itself was probably still some kind of illegal). The freeing of any slave in the US by military fiat was illegal until the 13th Amendment. Even the Emancipation Proclamation was illegal and unconstitutional. The 13th Amendment was basically designed to back-rationalize all the shit the army had been doing since 1861 (which is when they started "freeing" slaves, by taking them as "contraband").
I did a custom time range on google news from 1995 to 2009 and to say the articles about Juneteenth is sparse would be an understatement. And a lot of articles that showed up in the results is there because they have links to juneteenth articles written post 2020.
I'm a fairly knowledgeable American, not a brag but I talk to a lot of dumbasses who have TDS and can't tell you the capital of new york or have basic knowledge of current events other than what youtube and late night hosts tells them. Some, I shit you not, can't multiply or divide past single digits. Just fucking morons.
Anyways, the point is: I'm not a retard and I heard of Juneteenth only after I grew up and went to Texas when I joined the Army, spent two separate summers there and never once saw anyone do a damn thing for juneteenth.
I can't link it because it's got that extra bit of code (metadata?) in the link.
Just go to google, type juneteenth, click on news, click on tools (between the search bar and the articles, and in the timeframe dropbox select custom range at the very bottom, then just pick the timeframe you like.
you'll see it ramp up around 2013 and go nuts in recent years, but 2008 and prior not so much.
I actually do have a problem with people celebrating this holiday, and I'll tell you why; I've got a coworker that's going full-on celebration for it, including running down to Galveston TX.
While she was going on about this, she mentioned 'and this is why I don't celebrate the 4th of July'.
While I'm not going to get into an argument about this at work(I wasn't even part of the conversation, just listening in, because fuck getting into that mud pit), that remark both stuck with me and pissed me off to a severe degree.
Yeah. I've gotten to the point that I consider these people foreigners in my country. They will always, always, always consider themselves black and American a very distant second(if at that).
There's a longer rant involved, but that statement alone has basically made me wash my hands of all of this. I'm done. Fuck this shit.
See, this is the part that pisses me off the most; where I live(unlike the 99.99% of reddit and twitter faggots), blacks aren't exactly uncommon. I've interacted with them, dealt with them, and yeah - there are a number that are fairly obnoxious and full of themselves, but I've also worked with those that are, y'know, no worse or better than some other assholes I've dealt with.
Up until friday, I would have qualified the lady in question as falling in the latter category.
Nope. Can't do that any more. Previous assumptions thrown out the window - time to do some re-evaluation.
Personally, I'm not a fan of pepper spray, but other considerations might be in the cards. Yeesh.
Yeah Juneteenth was cool and super meaningful, but now that its gone federal it's all corporate and lost all meaning, I'm so over it. I'm now into celebrating Katuweebe now, you don't know it and I'm not going to tell you what date it falls on because if it gets too popular goddess knows what they'll do to it.
Juneteenth is a terrible thing.
Not only for it's ahistorical bullshit revisionism like Kwanza.
But because they've literally made a day where all of their criminalist buddies are going to shoot each other while prostitutes twerk on ambulances.
Every year.
At the same time.
Without exception.
Yes, we are going to weaponize this. How did you guess?
But it didn't have to be. Celebrating the day a Republican president freed the slaves could have been a positive thing, but instead it's a day for Democrats to reinforce the indoctrination that keeps black Americans hobbled and voting blue.
Well, it used to be Emancipation Day, right? It was recognized - and with picnics - for as long as I can remember, in the form of peaceful picnics they'd hold in Windsor parks (Detroit just didn't have the kind of green space the Canadian side does, so organizers would rent space there.) Of course, this was way back when Windsor cops still had a height/weight requirement ....
It just wasn't made a huge big deal of otherwise, it'd get a mention on the local news and that was about it.
Except it's not doing that.
This is something actually more sinister. It was the day a federal military force that had become the defacto military governor of the state through warfare, declared the mass removal of property rights.
Sure sure, abolish slavery. But the people celebrating it are also the same people who think all property rights should be abolished.
There will be another celebration for the the climate on the day that a soldier puts a gun to your head and steals your car.
If black people are still “marginalized” then it’s an entirely insolvent solution to listen/pander/propagate to black people as doing everything you demand has only made things far worse.
I came to this conclusion a while back. Anytime I debate a whiny black person I essentially tell them this
I’m glad he phrased it this way, with “feels,” because that’s all it is, a feeling. The media plays it up beyond all reality and the lefties similarly insist that everyone who disagrees with them is part of white supremacy, it’s just an endless feedback loop between the media and the leftie activists.
Yea. Also I remember people being outraged they weren’t taught about it in school and I said well it’s local to south Texas so why would Oregon (where the lady was from) be teaching it. Growing up in Oklahoma I learned a lot of Native American history because that’s a good chunk of Oklahoma history. I bet people in New England learn a ton about revolutionary war. At least I’m sure they did at one time.
Mainstreaming Juneteenth is kind of a perfect example of everything the woke do in their culture war, because it simultaneously (1) is the kind of thing they can make others feel like they have to participate in (and wokies can scream at them if they don’t) while also (2) being very fraught with the likelihood that the non-wokies will “do it wrong” or “get it wrong,” (and in that case wokies can scream at them for THAT). I don’t have a single problem with the holiday, groups can decide what’s important to them and when/how to celebrate, but I think what I just described is an obvious phenomenon that pervades every last bit of wokeness and the ways by which they seek to make cultural gains.
Add to it, what does this dopey-ass writer expect? His movement constantly demands that other people and organizations “see” them, celebrate them, just stfu and include them. Making the holiday mainstream is the kind of thing they wanted. Now they got it and they don’t want it anymore? I don’t really believe that (I think the dopey-ass writer is just executing the second technique I mentioned above) but if they don’t like, what happens if it gets taken away again? I bet then this dopey-ass writer would put out an article saying how awesome Juneteenth was when it was just him and the fam, that it became lame when they desegregated it, but that now giving it back to just the fam is like totally the worst thing ever. Can’t win with these cocksuckers, so people should just stop playing.
Don't forget it's constructed out of a complete fiction.
I seriously doubt Juneteenth was celebrated continuously in Galveston, TX. I want photographic evidence of the 1927 Juneteenth celebration in Galveston. Funny thing is, I know there isn't one from Detroit in 2009. Wasn't one in Harlem in 1962, either.
It seems like it doesn't even occur in the general consciousness prior to 2015. It's a complete and total gaslighting.
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Juneteenth%2CZoot+Suit%2C%2CFrankenstein&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=juneteenth
The only reason Juneteenth became a thing was because Saint Floyd died in May, and it was the soonest "black" holiday to beat people over the head with the following month. It would make 100x more sense to have a federal holiday for the Emancipation Proclamation, but that would be in September so it was too far away. Instead we got a holiday with possibly the stupidest, least descriptive name ever, and the holiday is for slaves being freed in one state.
The Emancipation Proclamation was announced in September, but it went into effect January 1st.
And not one state. One city, and not just any kind of freed, but freed under order of military occupation (which in and of itself was probably still some kind of illegal). The freeing of any slave in the US by military fiat was illegal until the 13th Amendment. Even the Emancipation Proclamation was illegal and unconstitutional. The 13th Amendment was basically designed to back-rationalize all the shit the army had been doing since 1861 (which is when they started "freeing" slaves, by taking them as "contraband").
I did a custom time range on google news from 1995 to 2009 and to say the articles about Juneteenth is sparse would be an understatement. And a lot of articles that showed up in the results is there because they have links to juneteenth articles written post 2020.
I'm a fairly knowledgeable American, not a brag but I talk to a lot of dumbasses who have TDS and can't tell you the capital of new york or have basic knowledge of current events other than what youtube and late night hosts tells them. Some, I shit you not, can't multiply or divide past single digits. Just fucking morons.
Anyways, the point is: I'm not a retard and I heard of Juneteenth only after I grew up and went to Texas when I joined the Army, spent two separate summers there and never once saw anyone do a damn thing for juneteenth.
Do you have a link to that google news search? I want to make a post about Juneteenth today.
I can't link it because it's got that extra bit of code (metadata?) in the link.
Just go to google, type juneteenth, click on news, click on tools (between the search bar and the articles, and in the timeframe dropbox select custom range at the very bottom, then just pick the timeframe you like.
you'll see it ramp up around 2013 and go nuts in recent years, but 2008 and prior not so much.
Yup. It simply wasn’t a thing.
Might be a good question for Ron Paul. This was his district and he was around for it.
I actually do have a problem with people celebrating this holiday, and I'll tell you why; I've got a coworker that's going full-on celebration for it, including running down to Galveston TX.
While she was going on about this, she mentioned 'and this is why I don't celebrate the 4th of July'.
While I'm not going to get into an argument about this at work(I wasn't even part of the conversation, just listening in, because fuck getting into that mud pit), that remark both stuck with me and pissed me off to a severe degree.
Yeah. I've gotten to the point that I consider these people foreigners in my country. They will always, always, always consider themselves black and American a very distant second(if at that).
There's a longer rant involved, but that statement alone has basically made me wash my hands of all of this. I'm done. Fuck this shit.
Co-Worker is a Black National Socialist, and if you are white, you will need to have at least a pepper spray on you at all times.
American blacks are not foreigners. But the Black National Socialists want to be foreigners. The John Birch Society was right.
See, this is the part that pisses me off the most; where I live(unlike the 99.99% of reddit and twitter faggots), blacks aren't exactly uncommon. I've interacted with them, dealt with them, and yeah - there are a number that are fairly obnoxious and full of themselves, but I've also worked with those that are, y'know, no worse or better than some other assholes I've dealt with.
Up until friday, I would have qualified the lady in question as falling in the latter category.
Nope. Can't do that any more. Previous assumptions thrown out the window - time to do some re-evaluation.
Personally, I'm not a fan of pepper spray, but other considerations might be in the cards. Yeesh.
I’m ok with abolishing it.
Never heard someone hipster a damn holiday.
Yeah Juneteenth was cool and super meaningful, but now that its gone federal it's all corporate and lost all meaning, I'm so over it. I'm now into celebrating Katuweebe now, you don't know it and I'm not going to tell you what date it falls on because if it gets too popular goddess knows what they'll do to it.
Isn't that just elitism with a bow on?
you nailed the lefty hipster speak