Think it's bad now? Wait til millennials and zoomers are the majority of politicians, then we are absolutely fucked. Prepare for the criminalization of any speech that disagrees with "current thing".
I think it'll be both things happening at the same time. Ascendant millennials and zoomers going full authoritarian and scapegoating "right wing domestic terrorists" for the Idiocracy style breakdown of every system everywhere. It's going to get very ugly. I only hope that America's geographic vastness makes it possible for enough of us to hide and wait until the system destroys itself.
I actually know a Democratic state rep in Minnesota. I had to watch this video to make sure it wasn’t the one I know. It’s not, but I’m going to be asking the one I know what their opinion is on this.
"Well er uh, obviously we've gotta follow the constitution ya know. But we don't want people, er... you know - going around saying the (scare quotes) N-word or denying the holocaust. You know what I'm talking about. Governing is a balancing act ya know. None of us want to limit your (scare quotes) free speech. Hate speech isn't the same as free speech. And these days there's a lot of dangerous misinformation floating around out there doncha know. I just think Musk oughta do something about all that and if he won't then - the people want us to step in ya know?"
I went and did a little more reading on this and one thing I’m seeing is that they’re trying to say this is necessary because a lot of minorities don’t feel comfortable reporting potential hate crimes to the police because they don’t trust the police. I suspect this is going to become more common as an argument/excuse: “oppressed groups don’t trust the police (part of the government) so we need to enable our new human rights department (still part of the government) to track people’s speech so oppressed groups are still protected.” When in every case the remit of the “trustworthy” bit of government is always going to be wider than the “untrustworthy” bit of government, precisely because the latter deals with things actually passed into statute as crimes while the former can just make up what it deals with. And our rights to speech, privacy, and so forth shrink a little bit more, with probably the added bonus of them being able to borrow the “it’s not a criminal trial so you don’t need due process protections” claim from college Title IX departments.
Anyone proposing this or supporting the proposal should be tarred, feathered, and ridden out on a rail to be placed in stocks in the middle of the Mall of America.
I also support the return of public hangings for certain classes of criminal. Top of the list are pedophile "drag queens" and anyone, parents included, who groom children into troonery.
I'm just glad these people are so smug they'll brag about what they're doing. She rephrased the first question so she could give a more censorious answer than she had to, because she's proud of what she's doing.
I considered making a joke about your opinion on this, but you beat me to it.
Not that it's even worth debating the merits with you but, no matter how you feel about Rowling, "I love JK Rowling" is not - and should not be - prohibited speech. Pointing that out is not "Rowling love."
Literally nobody is persecuted for liking that worthless parasite.
Canada has entered the chat. Or this bitch in the video right now, who won't answer. They're literally trying to make it illegal speech.
"I love JK Rowling" is considered hate speech by many on the left and, yes, government force has been used against people who've said it. You don't have to like Rowling to find that absolutely fucking insane, and something to point out and stand up against.
If it's true, why is Miss Reduxx still sitting in her studio apartment...?
Do you live in the least feminist country on Earth? If not, all your opinions are invalid. Oh, wait, that's an incredibly dumb argument. I live in the US, does that mean any problems I point out about it aren't true, since I haven't moved?
It clearly isn't.
You could just do a search. Billboards were taken down for hate speech and political speech for the phrase in both Canada and Scotland, for example. And, in the video this thread is discussing, the lawmaker wouldn't answer if that should be illegal speech.
Think it's bad now? Wait til millennials and zoomers are the majority of politicians, then we are absolutely fucked. Prepare for the criminalization of any speech that disagrees with "current thing".
I’m not convinced that society, in its current form, will last that long, tbh…
I think things are too broken for that, frankly.
I think it'll be both things happening at the same time. Ascendant millennials and zoomers going full authoritarian and scapegoating "right wing domestic terrorists" for the Idiocracy style breakdown of every system everywhere. It's going to get very ugly. I only hope that America's geographic vastness makes it possible for enough of us to hide and wait until the system destroys itself.
Oh sweet, manmade horrors beyond my comprehension.
In my lifetime.
Again.
What are they going to call it, the Ministry of Truth, or are they just gonna go ahead and call it Big Brother?
Pretty sure it's not the guy pushing it, he seems like he's trying to raise questions by bringing up possible examples of how it could be employed.
Still trying to actually find out what piece of legislation they're referencing too.
Edit: More info: https://www.foxnews.com/media/arguing-covid-came-china-land-minnesota-government-bias-registry-new-bill
House File 181 seems to be the name: https://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/bills/Information/BillNumber?FileNumber=hf181
Yeah, it’s not the guy in the video pushing it, it’s the Asian chick who “answers” his questions…
Still a valid point, though!!
I actually know a Democratic state rep in Minnesota. I had to watch this video to make sure it wasn’t the one I know. It’s not, but I’m going to be asking the one I know what their opinion is on this.
"Well er uh, obviously we've gotta follow the constitution ya know. But we don't want people, er... you know - going around saying the (scare quotes) N-word or denying the holocaust. You know what I'm talking about. Governing is a balancing act ya know. None of us want to limit your (scare quotes) free speech. Hate speech isn't the same as free speech. And these days there's a lot of dangerous misinformation floating around out there doncha know. I just think Musk oughta do something about all that and if he won't then - the people want us to step in ya know?"
I went and did a little more reading on this and one thing I’m seeing is that they’re trying to say this is necessary because a lot of minorities don’t feel comfortable reporting potential hate crimes to the police because they don’t trust the police. I suspect this is going to become more common as an argument/excuse: “oppressed groups don’t trust the police (part of the government) so we need to enable our new human rights department (still part of the government) to track people’s speech so oppressed groups are still protected.” When in every case the remit of the “trustworthy” bit of government is always going to be wider than the “untrustworthy” bit of government, precisely because the latter deals with things actually passed into statute as crimes while the former can just make up what it deals with. And our rights to speech, privacy, and so forth shrink a little bit more, with probably the added bonus of them being able to borrow the “it’s not a criminal trial so you don’t need due process protections” claim from college Title IX departments.
In other words...they want to create a secret police force who's goal is to benefit one racial group by persecuting another racial group.
Is there any point where compassion and empathy...isn't immediately seen as weakness to be exploited?
Minnesota is on a roll. First pedophillia is a sexual orientation. Now this. Hehe
I mean, it is attached to Canada.
If these kinds of things were built and used against communists right now, we would have a moon base by 2050.
This is one of those things where everyone needs to do their best to get on this slimy ponce's "list".
If everyone's on it. Nobody's on it.
And do what about it?
Here's some hate speech:
Anyone proposing this or supporting the proposal should be tarred, feathered, and ridden out on a rail to be placed in stocks in the middle of the Mall of America.
I also support the return of public hangings for certain classes of criminal. Top of the list are pedophile "drag queens" and anyone, parents included, who groom children into troonery.
I'm just glad these people are so smug they'll brag about what they're doing. She rephrased the first question so she could give a more censorious answer than she had to, because she's proud of what she's doing.
There's still time to stop these retards.
I considered making a joke about your opinion on this, but you beat me to it.
Not that it's even worth debating the merits with you but, no matter how you feel about Rowling, "I love JK Rowling" is not - and should not be - prohibited speech. Pointing that out is not "Rowling love."
Canada has entered the chat. Or this bitch in the video right now, who won't answer. They're literally trying to make it illegal speech.
"I love JK Rowling" is considered hate speech by many on the left and, yes, government force has been used against people who've said it. You don't have to like Rowling to find that absolutely fucking insane, and something to point out and stand up against.
Also:
Whoa, that was a quick switch. It doesn't happen, but if it did, it's a good thing, because it's to my enemies.
And you call other people Nazis.
Do you live in the least feminist country on Earth? If not, all your opinions are invalid. Oh, wait, that's an incredibly dumb argument. I live in the US, does that mean any problems I point out about it aren't true, since I haven't moved?
You could just do a search. Billboards were taken down for hate speech and political speech for the phrase in both Canada and Scotland, for example. And, in the video this thread is discussing, the lawmaker wouldn't answer if that should be illegal speech.