True crime shows and the culture around recording, with a healthy helping of cowardice, has convinced people that "documenting" it is valid and the best thing to do in these situations. Which is only the case if you can't just prevent a situation from happening entirely by getting involved to begin with.
In this case, its made a person so removed that they can't even empathize with reality in front of them. The boomer comics were right, some spent so long in their phones they can't tell them from real life.
Yeah outside to me is fair game. Not all vapes are truly obnoxious. A lot of 'em you'd only see thin plumes of vapor and smell candy slightly. It's a lot better than someone lighting up a cigarette next to you.
Fuck that. I had this dipshit blowing his awful smelling shit around me at a football game. Being outside did nothing to stop me having to smell what smelled like literal asshole. So I told him to cut the shit out
I've got a brother who is allergic to marijuana, needs an epi pen. A lot of vapes in Canada add marijuana oil in their mixes. I don't see the issue in asking someone not to vape if there's medical concerns. After all, they can just say "no" and keep vaping.
Honestly if someone told me they were allergic to vaping, I'd probably think they were lying. But it should rarely be a situation where someone is forced to stand in someone else's cloud.
Riiiiight, those intense smells and flavours are just water.
Don't believe the bullshit marketing, just because it's aerosolised random chemicals instead of vaporised random chemicals doesn't mean it's actually clean.
Dude has no idea what bizarre fucking home brew junk oil is in that vape, all he knows is his daughter is better off not having a taste of that rainbow.
Didn't say the world is run on the principle that the dude had to stop vaping, don't motte and bailey me. I said the rationale that "it's just second hand moisture" is categorically wrong.
Water's not even the major component, most of the cloud by weight is probably glycerol or other humectants, and it contains whatever else is in the base oil too. There's no way to say it's harmless because it's only as safe as whoever manufactured the oil. Add in that many simple chemicals that have high safe exposure limits for adults have no safe exposure limits for small children, and it's even less correct to claim it's 100% harmless to kids.
People are allowed to do things, they don't need a reason unless its crossing a line.
The fact that you think someone needs permission and justification to ask a polite question, one that involves smoking in front of a child even, at all is a far bigger problem. That's the logic of "you can prove your innocence" over just being innocent to begin with.
Iin both those cases a regular public space interaction happened with a person approaching another for a benign conversation, wherein one party responded by freaking out. Both cases the same thing applies. Dad has every right to ask a person to smoke elsewhere, with no justification needed. Vaper has every right to tell him to fuck off if he is within his right to be there. You seem to be confusing "has every right to ask" with "is in the right by asking and you must listen."
But I guess on top of thinking you need permission first to do every little thing, you are also so bad at defending that point you go trudging through profiles looking for gotchas to do it for you. So let me do it in turn:
I mean the presumption of innocence is a basic tenet of the American judicial system.
That was you, in response to Pelosi saying someone has to prove their innocence first, instead of being innocent until proven otherwise. The same kind of thinking where you are inherently in the wrong by simply talking to someone in a public space, instead of being allowed to do so (because its you know, public) until you cross some moral or legal line.
And my entire point is that this is a dumb question, the fact that you even are caught up on him doing it is a bigger problem with you than anyone else.
But this really just seems to be your own personal bias towards vapes. It doesn't matter if its perfectly harmless (I doubt that, but I'll concede on it), our instinctual reaction to smoke is that its bad and you don't want it around, especially around children. Someone not knowing that this special one is totes kosher and wanting it to not be around, is a very valid reaction. Especially as the entire purpose of this relatively new device is to both emulate and replace cigarettes, in which people's schema will naturally move right over until they get used to them.
And just to add this happened in Canada not America
I assume you think "freedom of speech" only exists in America too because its written in our Constitution instead of a general idea and principle held across many.
I didn't say him asking was a problem to begin with
You didn't need to. Because even asking why he did in the first place as you did says you think he needs a reason why. And as I explained in many different ways, he has numerous reasons why he would do it that are reflexively obvious.
I assume you think Freedom ends when it comes to freedom of expression
Probably shouldn't start making wild assumptions about someone's beliefs right after whining about thinking you were strawmanned. And then whining about "I was not hypocritical, its not truuu."
The America adjective of your previous statement wasn't relevant, unless you think "innocent until proven guilty" is uniquely American, which is why your cheap defense was worth pointing out as laughable. That entire bit was to point out that trawling through someone's comment history when you don't have a good defense is dumb, gay, and pathetic.
I have yet to see exactly what was going on so I can't really say if he was being a Karen or a concerned parent. The media has been too busy jerking off over everything. It being Canada all I can figure is the damn sing was acting like a fucking car on idle using rolling coal.
The future is grim.
Also
Bring on the Ice Age.
Day of the Rake when?
Best part, Soyboy also took pics of himself smoking next to seen. This is why people want tiktoking assholes dead.
True crime shows and the culture around recording, with a healthy helping of cowardice, has convinced people that "documenting" it is valid and the best thing to do in these situations. Which is only the case if you can't just prevent a situation from happening entirely by getting involved to begin with.
In this case, its made a person so removed that they can't even empathize with reality in front of them. The boomer comics were right, some spent so long in their phones they can't tell them from real life.
"Oh, but the swords are their religiooon! They'll never use them!!!"
Yeah, I carry a blade because they do.
I mean, I think EVERYONE should be allowed to carry some form of self defense.
We should make a religion that advocates resistance against weapon laws and decorate our weaponry with the insignia.
Ave Nex Alea.
diversity is our strength!
Wow, I didn't now it was possible but it happened.
We found an 'influencer' that's a bigger asshole than Logan Paul in Japan....
He may be a jaded, soulless nihilist, but at least he didn't apologize.
No, he doubled down on the soullessness.
Fucking gen Z. China won. Was too easy to bankroll a narcissist app to brainwash the kids into total stupidity
Truly soulless demons. Is this some newfangled version of the banality of evil?
Nope just to return to the old one we haven't seen in the West for a very long time.
Because it smells like shit and stop blowing it in my direction
Yeah outside to me is fair game. Not all vapes are truly obnoxious. A lot of 'em you'd only see thin plumes of vapor and smell candy slightly. It's a lot better than someone lighting up a cigarette next to you.
Fuck that. I had this dipshit blowing his awful smelling shit around me at a football game. Being outside did nothing to stop me having to smell what smelled like literal asshole. So I told him to cut the shit out
I've got a brother who is allergic to marijuana, needs an epi pen. A lot of vapes in Canada add marijuana oil in their mixes. I don't see the issue in asking someone not to vape if there's medical concerns. After all, they can just say "no" and keep vaping.
Honestly if someone told me they were allergic to vaping, I'd probably think they were lying. But it should rarely be a situation where someone is forced to stand in someone else's cloud.
Riiiiight, those intense smells and flavours are just water.
Don't believe the bullshit marketing, just because it's aerosolised random chemicals instead of vaporised random chemicals doesn't mean it's actually clean.
Dude has no idea what bizarre fucking home brew junk oil is in that vape, all he knows is his daughter is better off not having a taste of that rainbow.
Didn't say the world is run on the principle that the dude had to stop vaping, don't motte and bailey me. I said the rationale that "it's just second hand moisture" is categorically wrong.
Water's not even the major component, most of the cloud by weight is probably glycerol or other humectants, and it contains whatever else is in the base oil too. There's no way to say it's harmless because it's only as safe as whoever manufactured the oil. Add in that many simple chemicals that have high safe exposure limits for adults have no safe exposure limits for small children, and it's even less correct to claim it's 100% harmless to kids.
People are allowed to do things, they don't need a reason unless its crossing a line.
The fact that you think someone needs permission and justification to ask a polite question, one that involves smoking in front of a child even, at all is a far bigger problem. That's the logic of "you can prove your innocence" over just being innocent to begin with.
Iin both those cases a regular public space interaction happened with a person approaching another for a benign conversation, wherein one party responded by freaking out. Both cases the same thing applies. Dad has every right to ask a person to smoke elsewhere, with no justification needed. Vaper has every right to tell him to fuck off if he is within his right to be there. You seem to be confusing "has every right to ask" with "is in the right by asking and you must listen."
But I guess on top of thinking you need permission first to do every little thing, you are also so bad at defending that point you go trudging through profiles looking for gotchas to do it for you. So let me do it in turn:
That was you, in response to Pelosi saying someone has to prove their innocence first, instead of being innocent until proven otherwise. The same kind of thinking where you are inherently in the wrong by simply talking to someone in a public space, instead of being allowed to do so (because its you know, public) until you cross some moral or legal line.
I suppose you don't see the hypocrisy.
And my entire point is that this is a dumb question, the fact that you even are caught up on him doing it is a bigger problem with you than anyone else.
But this really just seems to be your own personal bias towards vapes. It doesn't matter if its perfectly harmless (I doubt that, but I'll concede on it), our instinctual reaction to smoke is that its bad and you don't want it around, especially around children. Someone not knowing that this special one is totes kosher and wanting it to not be around, is a very valid reaction. Especially as the entire purpose of this relatively new device is to both emulate and replace cigarettes, in which people's schema will naturally move right over until they get used to them.
I assume you think "freedom of speech" only exists in America too because its written in our Constitution instead of a general idea and principle held across many.
You didn't need to. Because even asking why he did in the first place as you did says you think he needs a reason why. And as I explained in many different ways, he has numerous reasons why he would do it that are reflexively obvious.
Probably shouldn't start making wild assumptions about someone's beliefs right after whining about thinking you were strawmanned. And then whining about "I was not hypocritical, its not truuu."
The America adjective of your previous statement wasn't relevant, unless you think "innocent until proven guilty" is uniquely American, which is why your cheap defense was worth pointing out as laughable. That entire bit was to point out that trawling through someone's comment history when you don't have a good defense is dumb, gay, and pathetic.
I have yet to see exactly what was going on so I can't really say if he was being a Karen or a concerned parent. The media has been too busy jerking off over everything. It being Canada all I can figure is the damn sing was acting like a fucking car on idle using rolling coal.