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Reposting about Assassin's Creed Red (archive.is)
posted 3 years ago by Galean 3 years ago by Galean +18 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

It's like they were this close to a vault load of cash because of how HARD AC fans wanted a Japanese samauri and Shinobi setting....just to trip the laser and alarm by going 'the Samauri is female and the Shinobi is black'

For fucks sake, it's like Ubisoft want to die with this idiotic move. You might have gotten away with a female Shibobi as many geishas worked as spies too but not black.

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– TheModernDaVinci 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Like was said in the other post, a female Samurai could at least be somewhat believable, especially if they went for the angle of "wife of the samurai getting revenge on his killers". But I highly doubt that is what Ubi is planning on doing here.

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– SoctaticMethod1 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

And I'm willing to put money on another thing considering it's Ubisoft:

The woman won't even be attractive either.

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
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– TheModernDaVinci 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, those are what I was referring to.

Fun fact: the practice still has influence in Modern Japan, and it is why every anime where there are girls in high school almost always has them practicing Kendo or archery (since they were the skills an Onna-Bugiesha was expected to know).

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– NotMacgyver 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The most hilarious part is they could have easily just swapped. You are the black slave trying to become a samurai for Oda Nobunaga and kunoichis were a things (though mostly seducers than sneaky peeps but people don't need to know that part).

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– SoctaticMethod1 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

The black slave thing though still doesn't sound right as wasn't the only outside trade they had was with the Dutch only or is the game set even before then. Where the fuck would a black person even get onto Japan when it finally took an American armada to open them up for trade.

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– NotMacgyver 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Ye I don't believe it either but it has become so accepted that I think they could get away with it.

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– outra_pessoa 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Japan also had trade with the portugueses, and Portugal had many black slaves.

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– SoctaticMethod1 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

But taking them to Japan? I don't think so especially considering they were on such thin ice with the Japanese that eventually led the Christian rebellion that saw Christian converts try to overthrow the government

...it didn't go well, the rebels all die, Christianity and Portuguese where banned from Japan and the Dutch became the only trading partner.....because they traded guns to the government during the rebellion.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I do find it funny how in another comment thread to this we actually have historical examples of female samauri and warriors but black no.

It's the constant need for the left to one up themselves and go even further. Just having a female samauri or Shinobi and the biggest question would've been 'she better be hot' but they had to go too far with black when even Chinese and European were rare in Japan at the time. It's like having a good story involving a same sex couple and then they go 'ah, ones trans now'

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– outra_pessoa 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I think it is not impossible, considering that the portuguese used black slaves in all other colonies. Here is a depiction of portugueses in japan in XVI century, you can clearly see a black slave carrying a big umbrella.

There is also the famous story of yasuke, a black guy born in moçambique (Portugal Colony) who became a warrior in japan.

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– Galean [S] 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

According to Insider Gaming's Tom Henderson, there are two playable characters: a samurai and a shinobi. The official teaser of Assassin's Creed Red is said to depict the game's female samurai protagonist, while the other character is said to be a shinobi and an African refugee, one who joined the Brotherhood at some point.

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– Assassin47 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

I'm sure this will be popular with Japanese players.

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– TerpenoidTester 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Just wait until the side quest to get a box of sushi and watermelon...

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– Lurker404 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

We wuz ninjas n shiet.

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– LauriThorne 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

African refugee

They really can't help but insert current thing can they?

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– TeeBP 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

This sounds like actual cultural appropriation, unlike Ghost of tsushima was accused of.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The "female samurai" thing isn't entirely unbelievable, as long as she's not literally a female samurai. In Japan, women participated in battle all the time. They were called onna musha. They were never samurai and if this woman receives the title of samurai then it's purely historical revisionism, but they did fight. Even if it takes five women to defeat one man, including women in your fighting force would increase its strength by 20%. Besides, everyone knows what happens to the women once their men are all dead. Better to go out in a blaze of glory. Of course, the idea of a lone female warrior roaming the land and besting male warriors is absolutely ludicrous, but maybe she'll have some sort of macguffin that makes up for the fact that women are naturally much weaker than men. Maybe she'll have Venom, like Bane.

A black ninja, though, is just fucking stupid. Half of a ninja's job was spying. I don't think a man who's basically wearing a giant sign that says "THIS MAN IS A FOREIGNER, DO NOT TRUST HIM" would work terribly well as a spy. I really hope they weren't dumb enough to go down this route, but then we are in the thick of Current Year so I wouldn't doubt it.

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– almond_activator 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Even if it takes five women to defeat one man, including women in your fighting force would increase its strength by 20%.

Galaxy brain take right here. Women can barely carry their own equipment, never mind rations, shelter, etc. What you've actually done by adding women is reduced the combat effectiveness of your men because before the battle they've got to ruck with a 20% heavier pack because Miss Anything-a-Man-Can-Do over there can't carry her own tent and keep up with the platoon at the same time.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

This is true in technology-based forces like the ones common in Europe, where better equipment wins battles. But this is feudal Japan, a land where the metal is of terrible quality and the folding technique had just recently been invented, was extremely time consuming, and was reserved for outfitting nobility. Most combatants didn't even have armor except for maybe a basic breastplate, and a lot of them fought with simple, light spears. No commoner was carrying anything into battle except a three pound stick with a pointy end.

Also, I never said that women took part in sieges or raids. Most of the battles they fought in were defensive. No tents or rations required.

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– Hoodie_Fren 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

NINJA WUUUT?

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– Salixion 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

"Not enough people are playing the women. We'll just force them to."

Yea...no

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– deleted 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

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