Yeah, I'm not reading something that long. The only thing I'll say is that I wish the incels were able to experience women the way most non-Chads do. They would quickly realize that the benefits they seek aren't worth the degrading hoops they would have to jump through, especially when Chad and Tyrone never have to do that shit to get what they want. Most men can play the game, but it's almost never worth it.
For most guys Modern dating is like being forced into a gladiatorial arena and fighting and killing other men over table-scraps. The fight has never been harder, and the “prize” has never been less worth it.
That's a good way of putting it. I like to put it in terms of hoeflation. We have to work 100 times harder than our great grandfathers for women 100 times worse than our great grandmothers.
I didn't read that whole thing, because it's a book and I'm not a raging incel and I just don't have interest in being raged at about women. I would say I very likely fit into the MGTOW category, but I'm not part of some movement. I am not a part of some community of MGTOW where that's part of my identity just like I was never screaming "to the moon" and buying up weird stocks. That's never been me, I'm a really shitty part of a herd. I've really always just been going my own way in basically everything since I was a kid. That's my personality.
absolute lack of trying to change to be something better
This is what I really pick up on from this whole spiel though. I've argued this with people before who bitch and moan about how awful whatever the hell is for them. Ask them are they doing anything to change their situation. Watch the excuses flow. I especially notice it with people with money problems. Their attitude turns into what I'd call "if they can't be Elon Musk then why bother trying." They just can't get that it's a mentality to better yourself that I'm talking about and that failure comes all the damn time. Maybe I'm just happy to keep trying.
I very likely fit into the MGTOW category, but I'm not part of some movement
MGTOW is a lifestyle, not a movement. For every MGTOW who's on the internet talking about it there are hundreds or thousands who just live it without even being aware of the anonym. Calling it a movement is a feminist lie that seeks to drive it off the internet, and ultimately meat space.
Male incels and female "femaledatingstrategy" types should be forced to live on an island together and filmed for our entertainment. They both suffer from the same delusion: that you can be a shitty person, unappealing to the opposite sex, and yet entitled to the affection of that sex.
It is a delusion so deep and fundamental that it is only surpassed in its rejection of reality by liberals in general and trannies in particular.
Joining a "community" comprised of failures who only reinforce and validate the very delusions that cause them to remain failures, is only going to make the problem (being unappealing) worse and make overcoming it more difficult.
But it's SO IMPORTANT that I be "authentic" and "true to myself" and never change my personality and fight the world to force it to change around me
That is literally how mentally ill people think. It's how communists and trannies think. Rational human beings understand that reality comes first, and your sense of self is subordinate to that and subject to that. There is a word for people who insist upon what is in their mind as superior to reality, and that word is "delusional".
Change and growth is the hallmark of maturity. People who get "stuck" and refuse to change their personalities over time to adapt to reality are typically mentally ill, or at the least seriously dysfunctional. As a rule, these people are unhappy. Constantly having to deal with the dissonance between delusion and reality is a very frustrating thing. This is why trannies are so suicidal and liberals are so unhappy.
One of the biggest problems with trusting young men, and the biggest red pill they need to learn, is: women lie, pretty much all the time, and as a rule. Women also spend a lot of time in particular lying to and manipulating young boys since women dominate the role of authority figure and caretaker for children in general. These adult (typically feminist) women don't want to help boys grow up to be more appealing or attractive, they want the boys to end up being more submissive and easily dominated.
April 14, 2003 -- Do boys and girls really deal with people in very different ways? Yes, say researchers like Campbell Leaper of the University of California. With Leaper's help, we conducted a test that he said would show us the difference. We made some lemonade, but instead of putting in sugar, we deviously put in salt — lots of it.
The boys responded the way I would if someone gave me something foul. Would girls react differently? I didn't think they would, but was I ever wrong. Courteously, Morgan said, "It's good." Again and again, the girls politely drank, even a girl who looked as if she was choking it down. I asked one girl, Samantha, why she didn't tell me the lemonade tasted bad. She said, "I didn't want to be rude to you." "I just didn't want to make anyone feel bad that they made this so sour," Asha told me.
"This is one of those situations where the boys probably should be behaving more like the girls," said Susan Witt, who teaches childhood development at the University of Akron. Georgetown Professor Deborah Tannen, who's written best sellers about gender differences, says each sex would benefit by adopting some of the opposite sex's traits.
So unfortunately men need to deprogram this bullshit. And if you go on Reddit, you see the vast majority of males on there are not only programmed, they will lash out at anyone who contradicts their programming, calling them "incels". Ironically, it's the deprogrammed men who get all the pussy, while it is the truly sexless virgins on Reddit screaming "incel" at everyone else.
"This is one of those situations where the boys probably should be behaving more like the girls," said Susan Witt, who teaches childhood development at the University of Akron.
This is a second order shit test. Putting salt in someone's lemonade to see if they call you out on your bullshit is a shit test, and then you have this retard saying that passing the shit test is bad, and that it would be better if boys failed the shit test instead.
Ironically, it's the deprogrammed men who get all the pussy, while it is the truly sexless virgins on Reddit screaming "incel" at everyone else.
That's because "incel" has become a catch all slur against anyone who questions the narrative. I only take that term seriously when someone applies the term to themselves or when it's applied to a tranny. Otherwise it's a good bet that the person being called an incel just contradicted a feminist or described the state of the dating market in anything less than glowing terms.
Incels are giving up on themselves, and blaming women for it.
They also put way too much credit in hypergamy. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but the idea of "if you are a 4 and below, give up on relationships because it will never happen" is fucking stupid. I just had some friends marry and they were both zeros on the scale.
Your friends would have to be quadriplegic burn victims with Down syndrome to rank a zero. Let's not be like women where they call 80% of men "below average."
I think everyone can manage to get married. By were they desired by their partner? There is no point in being an ATM for a couple years to be divorce raped later. I hope that's not the case for your friends.
Yes. Basically love-near-first sight. Followed up by common interests. Followed up by him filling a narrative role of a rescuer, and allowing her to develop agency away from an abusive and shitty environment.
There is no point in being an ATM for a couple years to be divorce raped later. I hope that's not the case for your friends.
In this case, and there are many cases like this, neither party would even consider breaking up. I might be an anti-theist, but Michael Knowles is correct that you have to be with a woman who isn't going to divorce. Now, I'm not going to say "marry a catholic", I'm saying that you have to fulfill a woman's metaphysical needs to the point that she would have no sane reason to divorce you. Yes, marry older, uglier, poorer women who see you as a kind of hero/night-in-shining-armor.
And yeah, those women exist, there's plenty of them.
I've lived a normal life, with a great gal in a 'normal' family setting, engaging with society. The people that were run down on Monday in Toronto, so very close to home to me and the ones i love, who could easily have been in his bombsights on any given day. All he saw was a society that isolated him, did not care to help him but ridiculed him.
Yeah, I'm not reading something that long. The only thing I'll say is that I wish the incels were able to experience women the way most non-Chads do. They would quickly realize that the benefits they seek aren't worth the degrading hoops they would have to jump through, especially when Chad and Tyrone never have to do that shit to get what they want. Most men can play the game, but it's almost never worth it.
For most guys Modern dating is like being forced into a gladiatorial arena and fighting and killing other men over table-scraps. The fight has never been harder, and the “prize” has never been less worth it.
That's a good way of putting it. I like to put it in terms of hoeflation. We have to work 100 times harder than our great grandfathers for women 100 times worse than our great grandmothers.
I didn't read that whole thing, because it's a book and I'm not a raging incel and I just don't have interest in being raged at about women. I would say I very likely fit into the MGTOW category, but I'm not part of some movement. I am not a part of some community of MGTOW where that's part of my identity just like I was never screaming "to the moon" and buying up weird stocks. That's never been me, I'm a really shitty part of a herd. I've really always just been going my own way in basically everything since I was a kid. That's my personality.
This is what I really pick up on from this whole spiel though. I've argued this with people before who bitch and moan about how awful whatever the hell is for them. Ask them are they doing anything to change their situation. Watch the excuses flow. I especially notice it with people with money problems. Their attitude turns into what I'd call "if they can't be Elon Musk then why bother trying." They just can't get that it's a mentality to better yourself that I'm talking about and that failure comes all the damn time. Maybe I'm just happy to keep trying.
MGTOW is a lifestyle, not a movement. For every MGTOW who's on the internet talking about it there are hundreds or thousands who just live it without even being aware of the anonym. Calling it a movement is a feminist lie that seeks to drive it off the internet, and ultimately meat space.
So he got laid?
Male incels and female "femaledatingstrategy" types should be forced to live on an island together and filmed for our entertainment. They both suffer from the same delusion: that you can be a shitty person, unappealing to the opposite sex, and yet entitled to the affection of that sex.
It is a delusion so deep and fundamental that it is only surpassed in its rejection of reality by liberals in general and trannies in particular.
Joining a "community" comprised of failures who only reinforce and validate the very delusions that cause them to remain failures, is only going to make the problem (being unappealing) worse and make overcoming it more difficult.
That is literally how mentally ill people think. It's how communists and trannies think. Rational human beings understand that reality comes first, and your sense of self is subordinate to that and subject to that. There is a word for people who insist upon what is in their mind as superior to reality, and that word is "delusional".
Change and growth is the hallmark of maturity. People who get "stuck" and refuse to change their personalities over time to adapt to reality are typically mentally ill, or at the least seriously dysfunctional. As a rule, these people are unhappy. Constantly having to deal with the dissonance between delusion and reality is a very frustrating thing. This is why trannies are so suicidal and liberals are so unhappy.
One of the biggest problems with trusting young men, and the biggest red pill they need to learn, is: women lie, pretty much all the time, and as a rule. Women also spend a lot of time in particular lying to and manipulating young boys since women dominate the role of authority figure and caretaker for children in general. These adult (typically feminist) women don't want to help boys grow up to be more appealing or attractive, they want the boys to end up being more submissive and easily dominated.
So unfortunately men need to deprogram this bullshit. And if you go on Reddit, you see the vast majority of males on there are not only programmed, they will lash out at anyone who contradicts their programming, calling them "incels". Ironically, it's the deprogrammed men who get all the pussy, while it is the truly sexless virgins on Reddit screaming "incel" at everyone else.
This is a second order shit test. Putting salt in someone's lemonade to see if they call you out on your bullshit is a shit test, and then you have this retard saying that passing the shit test is bad, and that it would be better if boys failed the shit test instead.
That's because "incel" has become a catch all slur against anyone who questions the narrative. I only take that term seriously when someone applies the term to themselves or when it's applied to a tranny. Otherwise it's a good bet that the person being called an incel just contradicted a feminist or described the state of the dating market in anything less than glowing terms.
Yeah as I always say on reddit, throwing out "incel" on reddit just reveals the accuser to be a simp.
Sorry but nigger thugs prove every day, that this really is possible and even works
in cells
Incels are giving up on themselves, and blaming women for it.
They also put way too much credit in hypergamy. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but the idea of "if you are a 4 and below, give up on relationships because it will never happen" is fucking stupid. I just had some friends marry and they were both zeros on the scale.
Your friends would have to be quadriplegic burn victims with Down syndrome to rank a zero. Let's not be like women where they call 80% of men "below average."
Okay, then 1.
Both are morbidly obese and have bad teeth.
I think everyone can manage to get married. By were they desired by their partner? There is no point in being an ATM for a couple years to be divorce raped later. I hope that's not the case for your friends.
Yes. Basically love-near-first sight. Followed up by common interests. Followed up by him filling a narrative role of a rescuer, and allowing her to develop agency away from an abusive and shitty environment.
In this case, and there are many cases like this, neither party would even consider breaking up. I might be an anti-theist, but Michael Knowles is correct that you have to be with a woman who isn't going to divorce. Now, I'm not going to say "marry a catholic", I'm saying that you have to fulfill a woman's metaphysical needs to the point that she would have no sane reason to divorce you. Yes, marry older, uglier, poorer women who see you as a kind of hero/night-in-shining-armor.
And yeah, those women exist, there's plenty of them.
I put in on Summarize and the result is:
Basically, gibberish garbage.
He's twisting the definition so much it's not even funny.