Drugs are bad. Drugging kids sterile and disphoric is fucking evil. Eating too much to the point you get fat is bad. Being lazy to the point your body and brain grow weak, opening yourself up to random injuries from basic tasks, and osteoporosis, is bad.
Indulging in moderation occasionally when you have your shit together has been a thing since time immemorial.
Abusing the shit out of it to the point you can't function has been seen as repugnant by others since time immemorial.
A simple reminder for Leftists constantly at war with reality. Old religions had certain dogmas that benefited those who obeyed them without understanding why it was good for them.
P.S. : Maby cartoons weren't "CURRENT YEAR woke" back then, but there was plenty obnoxious, in-your-face preaching about FORMER YEAR trendy thing to virtue signal about.
I was a kid when it came out and I even knew it was pure propaganda. It didn't even have the decency to be a long form toy commercial like the other cartoons.
Nobody recognizing this is frustrating. It's like they mark a point in their lifetime and anything that progresses past that is propaganda and anything before is just normal.
They are making a weaselly often implicit argument that people are only complaining about "woke" shit thanks to fake controversies drummed up by conservative opportunists. They support this argument with examples of past politicized media that allegedly no one complained about.
I think it's better to turn their point on its head and acknowledge that a lot of older media was indeed also politicized along similar lines and discuss how liberal ideology has been historically manufactured and isn't organic. Pointing out that the conditioning runs long and deep is a better argument, but right-liberals (especially the half-KiA types) miss this because they are blind to the manufactured nature of their own liberalism.
"Top 10 ADULT Jokes In 90s Cartoons that We Can't Believe They GOT AWAY With!!"
Faggots putting fag shit in cartoons and jerking off to the idea of children seeing it? Yes, sure, it's totes for the parents that they want to kill so they can "raise" the children they/themselves.
It's an eschatonic and Malthusian death-cult, wearing a Mr. Rogers sweater with a pin on it that says 'I'm the empathetic one."
I don't get it, and have never understood how anyone could be fooled by it for a moment. The whole idea's goals are full of death, and the means to do it is blatant, flat-out piracy. The mildest form involves brainwashing children, the other end of the chain is sending the Government to mow down men, women, and children who've simply tried to stay off the grid.
Re: Drug use in cartoons. I remember when the old theatrical shorts got stripped of their drug use starting even a little before Nancy Reagan.
One major example was a Merrie Melodies cartoon that was slowly chopped to shit over the years before my eyes. The plot had to do with two generic mice trying to drive a cat insane for to get rid of him out of the house. The first bit to be clipped was the times the cat went and took a bunch of "nerve pills", or gulped down "nerve tonic" as the pranks the mice pulled got worse and worse (the ol' nail furniture to the ceiling bit and crap like that, which made the cat increasingly question his sanity.) The whole cartoon eventually faded into oblivion, can't even remember its title now. I guess it was kind of dark. I think the mice won in the end. That's no reason to censor it, though. It'd be more useful as a study as to the decade it was made, or the Depression survivors who made it.
The wokeness stuff has been around basically forever in some form or another. (See people worshipping a golden calf in the Bible - prohibition in the US, Stalinism in Russia, etc)
The trend in cartoons started around the late 60s/early 70s as part of the hippie revolution. See Yogis Ark, the relaunch of Tom and Jerry as great friends. Watch the first Electric Company episode and see how its writing is right out of todays wokeness playbooks.
If anything the difference between then (the 70s) and today is the complete disconnect from reality and rational thought which is part and parcel of typical communist movements. The point is to destroy the known so that you can’t make moral decisions yourself but must rely upon “the elite” to tell you what to think.
Circa 1990, this is how those statements were in practice meant to be interpreted:
"Protect the environment" = "Give the EPA more authority, so that the Environmental Impact Study for a dam costs more and takes longer to complete than the entire building of the dam would have 100 years ago"
"Respect women" = "Use Civil Rights law to give HR departments more authority over employees to ensure women in the workforce feel 'safe' and 'welcome'. And make sure they can have abortions."
"Racism is bad" = "Any statistical difference in outcome between races is due to 'secret racism' and not due to statistical differences in ability. And there are 'secret racists' out there who prey on innocent black people."
It's classic Motte and Bailey, the same way "Make all children feel welcome" = "Teachers give children puberty blockers without their parents' knowledge or consent" today. The only difference is back then we fell for it. Mea culpa.
I recognise captain planet, pretty sure it wasn't particularly preachy. I do seem to recall there being a retarded amount of non-recyclable packaging with the video game though
I remember the aids episode, lol. It was pretty weird and a bit on your nose. Ferngully is another one that I remember having a heavy environmentalist message, don't cut down trees with Tim Curry voicing the main villain which stole the entire show.
Ferngully was cartoonish fun and the "forest good, lumber bad, humans bad" message wasen't too distracting. It made a compelling conflict for the plot of the movie.
The monster sucking the fumes of the machinery was pretty cool and gross.
It was never going to succeed at making little boys "not want to drive a huge truck".
I guess that's my inner conservative nostalgia. I do want to preserve large, functional patches of every ecosystem cause cool plants animals and shiet.
I always thought Captain Planet was some kind of weird controlled opposition on Ted Turner's part, because the villains were just too ridiculous and even too cartoony for a fucking cartoon, and that's saying something considering comic book villains who form organizations with the words "evil" and "doom" in them ...
Know what was a better environmentalist cartoon? The Raccoons. At least Cyril Sneer was presented as more than just an "evil businessman who didn't care". It was made clear in the pilot that his entire motivation was to build a hassle-free business for to leave to his son (which used to be the definition of a "successful businessman", one who started or maintained a family business that would last a million generations, not to have a million copies of his business in a million fucking countries ...) AND was open to better ideas ....
And the series didn't always harp on one thing, it had perfectly normal stories, too (became a bit more of a sitcom type show before circling around with the alligator guy at the last season or two. It's been a LONG time since I saw this series in the wild, so pardon any memory errors. But at least I reminded myself of something I can (re)-watch without puking.
I always thought Captain Planet was some kind of weird controlled opposition on Ted Turner's part, because the villains were just too ridiculous and even too cartoony for a fucking cartoon, and that's saying something considering comic book villains who form organizations with the words "evil" and "doom" in them
Oh right, I forgot they named their villains some really funny stuff like Sly Sludge, Verminous Skumm or Hoggish Greedly. Even for a cartoon it's a bit too much, lol.
Know what was a better environmentalist cartoon
For me personally either once upon a forest or Nausicaa. Especially Nausicaa I'd argue is one of my favorites overall.
I am not entirely opposed to saving the environment but I have some issues with the mentally ill people we call our leaders pushing more and more restrictions on us. The thing we need is progress and in some regards we already HAVE some solutions(like nuclear power) our dear leaders do not like to hear about.
Nausicaa/Princess Mononoke/Ghibli films in general are cheating. They don't have nearly as much woke infection, and an older target audience, so their environmentalist message is much more nuanced.
I don't remember that episode, but I remember the show. Static Shock. Some chemical exosion in a blighted urban area gave a bunch of ghetto trash super powers. The main character spent most of the series fighting lowlife thugs and gangs who benefited from it. If I was a normal white kid in that situation you're goddamn right I'd bring a gun with me to school.
It's basically about a kid named Jimmy who gets fed up with his bully, threatens him with his dad's gun and accidentaly shots his friend. In the end he gets arrested and Static Shock says that a lot of kids get arrested or die due to gun violence. A bit on the nose but still better than anything modern cartoons do, compare that to the OK KO (let's not be skeletons) or the Animaniacs reboot (bun control) episodes about gun control
Reminds me of the time some kid started bullying me in 1st grade. My parents told me not to be a pussy. Paraphrasing, obviously. Shoved the kid when he wasn't expecting it, and he fell down a hill. No teachers saw me do it, and who's gonna believe the known bully when he tells his teacher that the quiet 7 year old with a Barney backpack shoved him down a hill at recess.
Drugs are bad. Drugging kids sterile and disphoric is fucking evil. Eating too much to the point you get fat is bad. Being lazy to the point your body and brain grow weak, opening yourself up to random injuries from basic tasks, and osteoporosis, is bad.
Indulging in moderation occasionally when you have your shit together has been a thing since time immemorial.
Abusing the shit out of it to the point you can't function has been seen as repugnant by others since time immemorial.
A simple reminder for Leftists constantly at war with reality. Old religions had certain dogmas that benefited those who obeyed them without understanding why it was good for them.
P.S. : Maby cartoons weren't "CURRENT YEAR woke" back then, but there was plenty obnoxious, in-your-face preaching about FORMER YEAR trendy thing to virtue signal about.
Captain Planet was woke. Remember the episode where they told people not to have too many kids because of overpopulation?
Ted Turner greenlit the series to push woke environmental messaging. It wasn't by accident; it's what he intended from the start.
I was a kid when it came out and I even knew it was pure propaganda. It didn't even have the decency to be a long form toy commercial like the other cartoons.
And had the opposite message in another episode. Both involving the white American being "wrong" for wanting or not wanting kids.
The real red pill here is learning that there was no shift. That's what they meant all along.
Nobody recognizing this is frustrating. It's like they mark a point in their lifetime and anything that progresses past that is propaganda and anything before is just normal.
They are making a weaselly often implicit argument that people are only complaining about "woke" shit thanks to fake controversies drummed up by conservative opportunists. They support this argument with examples of past politicized media that allegedly no one complained about.
I think it's better to turn their point on its head and acknowledge that a lot of older media was indeed also politicized along similar lines and discuss how liberal ideology has been historically manufactured and isn't organic. Pointing out that the conditioning runs long and deep is a better argument, but right-liberals (especially the half-KiA types) miss this because they are blind to the manufactured nature of their own liberalism.
Faggots putting fag shit in cartoons and jerking off to the idea of children seeing it? Yes, sure, it's totes for the parents that they want to kill so they can "raise" the children they/themselves.
It's an eschatonic and Malthusian death-cult, wearing a Mr. Rogers sweater with a pin on it that says 'I'm the empathetic one."
I don't get it, and have never understood how anyone could be fooled by it for a moment. The whole idea's goals are full of death, and the means to do it is blatant, flat-out piracy. The mildest form involves brainwashing children, the other end of the chain is sending the Government to mow down men, women, and children who've simply tried to stay off the grid.
Satanic evil from the ground up, is what it is.
Re: Drug use in cartoons. I remember when the old theatrical shorts got stripped of their drug use starting even a little before Nancy Reagan.
One major example was a Merrie Melodies cartoon that was slowly chopped to shit over the years before my eyes. The plot had to do with two generic mice trying to drive a cat insane for to get rid of him out of the house. The first bit to be clipped was the times the cat went and took a bunch of "nerve pills", or gulped down "nerve tonic" as the pranks the mice pulled got worse and worse (the ol' nail furniture to the ceiling bit and crap like that, which made the cat increasingly question his sanity.) The whole cartoon eventually faded into oblivion, can't even remember its title now. I guess it was kind of dark. I think the mice won in the end. That's no reason to censor it, though. It'd be more useful as a study as to the decade it was made, or the Depression survivors who made it.
lol, no, but it's always fun to see Abbott and Costello as mice.
I still like the Jack Benny one better. :)
I think it's Mouse Wreckers, actually.
EDIT: Definitely Mouse Wreckers. Here's probably the most complete version that probably still exists: https://www.supercartoons.net/cartoon/706/mouse-wreckers.html
Out: Gaslighting
In: Room Flipping
Captain Planet was extremely in your face, but it was also made by people who were far more talented than the people producing any modern cartoon.
The wokeness stuff has been around basically forever in some form or another. (See people worshipping a golden calf in the Bible - prohibition in the US, Stalinism in Russia, etc) The trend in cartoons started around the late 60s/early 70s as part of the hippie revolution. See Yogis Ark, the relaunch of Tom and Jerry as great friends. Watch the first Electric Company episode and see how its writing is right out of todays wokeness playbooks.
If anything the difference between then (the 70s) and today is the complete disconnect from reality and rational thought which is part and parcel of typical communist movements. The point is to destroy the known so that you can’t make moral decisions yourself but must rely upon “the elite” to tell you what to think.
I love when someone gets straight and to the point when calling out this bullshit.
Completely correct response, since the comparison is idiotic at best.
Circa 1990, this is how those statements were in practice meant to be interpreted:
"Protect the environment" = "Give the EPA more authority, so that the Environmental Impact Study for a dam costs more and takes longer to complete than the entire building of the dam would have 100 years ago"
"Respect women" = "Use Civil Rights law to give HR departments more authority over employees to ensure women in the workforce feel 'safe' and 'welcome'. And make sure they can have abortions."
"Racism is bad" = "Any statistical difference in outcome between races is due to 'secret racism' and not due to statistical differences in ability. And there are 'secret racists' out there who prey on innocent black people."
It's classic Motte and Bailey, the same way "Make all children feel welcome" = "Teachers give children puberty blockers without their parents' knowledge or consent" today. The only difference is back then we fell for it. Mea culpa.
"Make all children welcome" is what caused that 6 year old teacher-shooter to be in a class with normal children, where it clearly did not belong.
I recognise captain planet, pretty sure it wasn't particularly preachy. I do seem to recall there being a retarded amount of non-recyclable packaging with the video game though
Don't recognise the other three mind
I remember the aids episode, lol. It was pretty weird and a bit on your nose. Ferngully is another one that I remember having a heavy environmentalist message, don't cut down trees with Tim Curry voicing the main villain which stole the entire show.
Ferngully was cartoonish fun and the "forest good, lumber bad, humans bad" message wasen't too distracting. It made a compelling conflict for the plot of the movie.
The monster sucking the fumes of the machinery was pretty cool and gross.
It was never going to succeed at making little boys "not want to drive a huge truck".
Besides, what will Aussies use as speed bumps if we don't protect enough rainforest ecosystem for cassowaries to repopulate?
I guess that's my inner conservative nostalgia. I do want to preserve large, functional patches of every ecosystem cause cool plants animals and shiet.
You forgot he was SINGING about how much he loves pollution ...ok, who's worse with their pollution fetish? This guy or the wonderbread guy?
Polluting be kinda hot tho.
If you want an environmentalist movie that WASN'T all "humans are bad"?
Once Upon a Forest.
I'm not kidding, that movie was surprisingly fair to humanity, unlike similar films of the time.
Thank you for the recomendation.
I always thought Captain Planet was some kind of weird controlled opposition on Ted Turner's part, because the villains were just too ridiculous and even too cartoony for a fucking cartoon, and that's saying something considering comic book villains who form organizations with the words "evil" and "doom" in them ...
Know what was a better environmentalist cartoon? The Raccoons. At least Cyril Sneer was presented as more than just an "evil businessman who didn't care". It was made clear in the pilot that his entire motivation was to build a hassle-free business for to leave to his son (which used to be the definition of a "successful businessman", one who started or maintained a family business that would last a million generations, not to have a million copies of his business in a million fucking countries ...) AND was open to better ideas ....
And the series didn't always harp on one thing, it had perfectly normal stories, too (became a bit more of a sitcom type show before circling around with the alligator guy at the last season or two. It's been a LONG time since I saw this series in the wild, so pardon any memory errors. But at least I reminded myself of something I can (re)-watch without puking.
Oh right, I forgot they named their villains some really funny stuff like Sly Sludge, Verminous Skumm or Hoggish Greedly. Even for a cartoon it's a bit too much, lol.
For me personally either once upon a forest or Nausicaa. Especially Nausicaa I'd argue is one of my favorites overall.
I am not entirely opposed to saving the environment but I have some issues with the mentally ill people we call our leaders pushing more and more restrictions on us. The thing we need is progress and in some regards we already HAVE some solutions(like nuclear power) our dear leaders do not like to hear about.
Nausicaa/Princess Mononoke/Ghibli films in general are cheating. They don't have nearly as much woke infection, and an older target audience, so their environmentalist message is much more nuanced.
I don't remember that episode, but I remember the show. Static Shock. Some chemical exosion in a blighted urban area gave a bunch of ghetto trash super powers. The main character spent most of the series fighting lowlife thugs and gangs who benefited from it. If I was a normal white kid in that situation you're goddamn right I'd bring a gun with me to school.
It's basically about a kid named Jimmy who gets fed up with his bully, threatens him with his dad's gun and accidentaly shots his friend. In the end he gets arrested and Static Shock says that a lot of kids get arrested or die due to gun violence. A bit on the nose but still better than anything modern cartoons do, compare that to the OK KO (let's not be skeletons) or the Animaniacs reboot (bun control) episodes about gun control
Reminds me of the time some kid started bullying me in 1st grade. My parents told me not to be a pussy. Paraphrasing, obviously. Shoved the kid when he wasn't expecting it, and he fell down a hill. No teachers saw me do it, and who's gonna believe the known bully when he tells his teacher that the quiet 7 year old with a Barney backpack shoved him down a hill at recess.
I hate when cartoons get political such as when... Sonic tells children not to play inside washing machines
That one was in response to an actual incident--one that changed how appliance doors are built, so they can be more easily opened from inside.