No, its not the Imp. November 2018 HNoMS Helge Ingstad, a Norwegian frigate, collided with the tanker Sola TS and sank. Much criticism and many jokes were made on the Norwegian navy following this.
But as it turns, and this has only come to light in the last few days and appears to have been actively suppressed for 4 years now, the duty officer on the bridge was a female US navy officer under training, on a exchange program between the Norwegian and US Navy.
Its one thing that it happened, but this has been rumored for years and the only reason its finally come out is because she has been requested to testify as a witness during court proceedings currently ongoing against the watch chief of Helge Ingstad.
Pussy pass stamped and approved, and a male Norwegian officer is currently getting shafted for a fuckup in part caused by a US navy diversity hire.
I'm not surprised in the least. I served for 20 years, and deployed seven times with women on a carrier. IME women on ships are 90% dead weight, are often the eye of a hurricane of office drama, and fraternization kills dozens of careers every deployment as the inevitable consequences of forcing young men and women to work in close proximity to each other results in them fucking like bunnies every chance they get.
Unlike every other environment.
Exactly right. Something that's bothered the shit out of me my whole life is how other men enable this. Men will put up with totally useless women at work just to have a piece of eye candy around they can daydream about fucking. Its retarded.
Islam is right about women
Islam is right about everything (except that one thing). Allahu a'alam.
There isn't anything anyone can do about it at that level other than just try to ride out the chaos. Remember how Mike Pence said he never met women in private? Men have been doing that in the military since the late 1990s. No closed door one on one counseling happens in the military, the door is always left open, or it is done with at least one other person present. Men know their careers are on the line, so they don't let themselves be in a place where it is his word against hers.
I'm not talking about military, I'm talking about regular jobs. The amount of covering and coddling men do for women is unreal. I remember a female coworker came in to work crying, said she stubbed her toe (yes, for real) and wanted to go home. I laughed in her face. Another male coworker said no problem and took all her work for the day. Fucking idiot.
Another job, girl takes over from a prior admin who was an old tech. This girl is fresh out of college and knows fuck all about the job. Prior tech would line up all the jobs for the day and put together everyone's schedule so no time was wasted. I come in and my schedule is not done, new girl doesn't know how to do it. I realize all the other guys are doing their own schedules (wasting the first 30-45 min of their day). I sat down and demanded she do her job and prepare the schedules, and she did. After that, no issues. I was the only guy out of 5-6 who held her to that standard. (she was VERY attractive though).
Another job, girl takes over from a retiree. Company makes a big deal about how she's so qualified and perfect for the job. Gets a BIG pay raise. The last guy did all this tech stuff though that she can't or won't do. They come to me and say we need you to do the tech tasks now that are part of her job. I say why isn't the new girl doing this? They say she's learning but in the meantime I need to do it. I demand a raise for the new responsibilities, they refuse. I found a new job that paid me 20k more. They had to hire a replacement for me AND a 'helper' do the parts of the job this girl was so so so qualified for (but couldn't actually do.)
I have never in my life picked up the slack for a pair of bobs and vagene and I never will. If all men were like me this wouldn't be a problem, but simping seems to be genetic.
At least when they were eye candy and lent themselves to dreaming there was some purpose.
Wtf is the point of today's multi colored dickathongs.
The USA's first combat certified female pilot blew a landing onto the deck of the Abraham Lincoln.
https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/female-naval-aviator-died-accident/
https://youtu.be/6Q_anBB3M0A
https://youtu.be/rFUXshaaMQM - An excellent breakdown of the accident by a retired, career F14 pilot.
Scuttlebutt is that there was enormous top-down pressure to get a female pilot qualified and flying. She was accelerated because she was a woman and a halfway decent pilot. She was in the air to fill a quota. Corers were cut with her training because top brass wanted political points.
Women can be decent pilots, but only if held to the same standards as male pilots. If you want the best of the best; the best of the best is a man. No question.
I am sure there are a thousand male pilot candidates that would not have made that well understood mistake. Perhaps another thousand hours in the simulator would have made
There was a similar incident recently in Australia, and of course the identity of the pilot is redacted. However "human error" always reads to me that the pilot did not meet the requirements to qualify, and therefore the standards were lowered.
My dad wasn't ever on a carrier to my knowledge but he has plenty of stories like that from when he was in. Late 70s-mid 2000s.
My father sometimes telsl a story about a study that he was privy to where a navy tested how many females they could have before everything went to shit.
Their conclusion was that around 30% was the absolute maximum they could afford to keep on a ship.
Don't have a source for it but don't find it to be massively implausible from what I have seen
That seems awfully high, unless their threshold of "went to shit" is keel up.
Pretty much yes but one needs to use a more... Diplomatic wording when a study is gonna be shared across countries.
So the "could afford to keep" is likely a "ship doesn't sink" but worded nicely. And it is the absolute maximum and not the efficient number of females they could have on a warship. No use making a study about that when it's easy to deduce it's zero
US Marines kept excellent figures on injury rates in basic training.
Women have 30X greater rate of medical discharge for hip ligament injuries under load: eg marching with a pack
That is just one kind of injury. All told women are about half as physically capable as men and much (!) more prone to injury under strain.
I'd love to see that study. Do you still have it to hand?
I'd like to read it as well (and see what 'under load' constituted for men and women in the study).
In my experience, they got hurt at half-pack, while most of us were fine at 120-140%, because we were carrying what they couldn't in addition to our own.
Of course, when units in my field went forward WMs never left the wire except in MRAPs, but they still had to pretend in training, and they never had anything other than individual equipment to carry. No squad gear, just sleeping kit, ammo, weapon, and armor to ruck around with.
That had to have been a huge drain on morale knowing you had women larping in the service
It was less a drain than the inevitable infidelity while husbands and boyfriends were downrange, or the resulting suicide in the battalion adjacent.
There was one woman who decided she just wanted to be a mother after her first son was born, so she angled for a job in the bullshit 'family readiness' office and rode out her contract there. No LARPing, no failure to pull her weight, didn't get fat, basically just a civilian in MARPAT, working an 8-5 behind a desk instead of bent over it.
She was the only one I wouldn't say was a net negative. An island of hope in a sea of useless whores and half-useless hags.
You know, aside from the fact that she took up a very expensive, very scarce A-school seat.
Unfortunately not. Sorry.
I did a bit of a search, and this is the study I found. There are others, including officer training.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9158436/
Most of the data of recruit injury isn't broken down by gender or injury type by gender. I don't think that is a cooincidence.
The broad consensus is that women are much more likely to suffer injuries to the legs and lower legs than men; and that this can be reduced with the correct physical conditioning.
Reduced how much, and compared to what remains unanswered.
This must mean that it only needs 40% crewmen to run a ship.
Slightly related: do we STILL not know the captain of the Evergiven? I am at this point 100% sure it was a woman and/or a minority otherwise we would've heard who it was.
While the Evergiven was captained by an Indian Woman, it was under the control of an Egyptian pilot at the time of the grounding.
On a scale of 1 to Sweden, how cucked is Norway?
I forgot about her
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Old saying was round hips sink ships. It's still true.
While I’m sure that the pussy pass plays a role here, there’s also the fact that Norway wants the U.S. in it’s good graces, so it would not blame the American sailor, even if she was at fault.
I distinctly remember hearing when this happened that a woman was in charge at the time.
Again??
No its still just one, so far.