Just to play devil's advocate, he did a good job with the economy and bringing jobs back. It's actually impressive how quickly the economy has degraded once democrats took power.
I suppose his ultimate problem was that as an outsider he was uneducated on how political dealings work. He couldn't see how many smiling allies were actually enemies.
Trump's downfall was his inability to control his ego, seeming refusal to learn any lessons from his failures, and his shockingly bad judgement of character.
Looks like all this NYT rat had to do to get an obviously detrimental interview was suck up to him a little and smile and nod with the knife behind her back as he talked.
Disagree. It offers incredible positive qualities, but it also leaves you in that position where you aren't used to dealing with politicians and the government business machine.
Politicians are specific forms of cretins that aren't exactly the same as corpos, which is the problem Trump kept running into.
You perfectly summed up my position on this since 2020.
I think the Trump years of 2017-2019 were really good but I think after the complete shitshow from him in 2020, It is high time for someone new to be given a chance to take a shot at it.
As you might have guessed from my own response, I'm not really settled on a preference. Not that it matters, seeing as I'm probably one of the few types of foreigners the DNC would be aghast to have vote in US elections - I'm British.
Fundamentally, it's a compromise between a person likely to be a more effective President - DeSantis - and your own personal assessment of the need to humiliate the deep state types into submission - which would be a vote for Trump.
Given how brazen those deep state types are being at the moment I weight this argument more highly than I otherwise might. The American federal infrastructure must be brought to heel if your country is to be anything more in the long run than merely another implementation of China.
Exactly. I supported Trump, and still agree with most of his ideas...but DeSantis is the guy. He can actually get shit done, and hopefully clean house of all the leftists. I'd like to see some of them hang, but alas, the price of no civil war will probably mean we don't actually get rid of the problem in a permanent way.
It's hard not to notice that all the talk of a Trump-DeSantis feud is from MSM shills. With Trump's personality being what it is I don't think it's out of realm of possibility that he resents DeSantis but I've yet to see claims that don't come from unethical sources with a vested interest in shit stirring.
The media is baiting this infighting to hurt Republicans in the midterms.
Trump is sadly falling for the media bait.
Even on his Truth website, Trump is taking a few digs at DeSantis because I think he is truly scared that there is now one person who at least has a real shot to win against him in the 2024 primaries.
We still have 1.5 years before 2024 primaries. He needs to stop this infighting stupidity and just focus on midterms.
They're two different people, they're going to have at least some differences of opinion.
Conservatives think. They evaluate. They compare. You'll hear things like "choosing the lesser of two evils still chooses evil". They're basically very easily triggered to let perfection be the enemy of good. So the comparison between the two, slowly escalating to calling the other camp "shills", is a result of exploiting that.
Notice you'll never hear the left argue in this way. They know how to just pick someone and will bend over backwards to ignore anything they don't like about them.
Notice you'll never hear the left argue in this way. They know how to just pick someone and will bend over backwards to ignore anything they don't like about them.
Oh, they do. The shills just win hands down every time because all they have to do is shout "look at the evil fascist on the other side, we all need to get behind the globalist neolib right now or he's going to start genociding" and 80% of them shit their pants and do exactly what NPR tells them to do.
Because there's never been more then 1 option at a time. It's not a great precedent when the first time there's 2 ok candidates they can't trip each other up.
Everyone Trump endorses is going to win this November and everyone down-ballot of him will win in 2024. He's going to be the nominee. You're getting a 2nd Trump term and you're gonna like it.
If it's a choice between Trump and DeSantis I'd go with DeSantis in a heartbeat. Trump is still surrounded by quislings and globalist fucktards like Jared Kushner.
Until I see evidence that he's cleaning up his own house I have no faith he's going to even attempt to clean up ours.
That said I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was setting up this goof that's LARPing as a journalist.
Trump failed to pardon Assange or Snowden.
Trump was useless at implementing Trump’s OWN policies.
Even If you support Trump - you should be open to someone else replacing him.
Just to play devil's advocate, he did a good job with the economy and bringing jobs back. It's actually impressive how quickly the economy has degraded once democrats took power.
I suppose his ultimate problem was that as an outsider he was uneducated on how political dealings work. He couldn't see how many smiling allies were actually enemies.
Who do you support then?
He wasn't a politician and that was both his greatest appeal and his downfall.
The not a politician is always purely a positive.
Trump's downfall was his inability to control his ego, seeming refusal to learn any lessons from his failures, and his shockingly bad judgement of character.
Looks like all this NYT rat had to do to get an obviously detrimental interview was suck up to him a little and smile and nod with the knife behind her back as he talked.
Disagree. It offers incredible positive qualities, but it also leaves you in that position where you aren't used to dealing with politicians and the government business machine.
Politicians are specific forms of cretins that aren't exactly the same as corpos, which is the problem Trump kept running into.
You perfectly summed up my position on this since 2020.
I think the Trump years of 2017-2019 were really good but I think after the complete shitshow from him in 2020, It is high time for someone new to be given a chance to take a shot at it.
I understand that viewpoint.
I'm also open to the view that it needs to be Trump 2024 if only to show the FBI & friends who runs the country.
I can empathize with wanting to stick It to people you dislike but this type of thinking is very counterproductive.
We need to bring forth real institutional reform and have good governance not just yell about being witch-hunted by glowies at rallies.
Trump 2024 means Kushner will be back in the WH as prime minister. That corrupt rat will never allow for any real reform.
If Trump wants to be the 2024 nominee, he must get his shit together and learn from his mistakes.
What we seen from him till today shows he is never going to do this.
The nominee in 2024 needs to be someone who can bring forth real reform and be capable of governing effectively.
Trump is not that man.
As you might have guessed from my own response, I'm not really settled on a preference. Not that it matters, seeing as I'm probably one of the few types of foreigners the DNC would be aghast to have vote in US elections - I'm British.
Fundamentally, it's a compromise between a person likely to be a more effective President - DeSantis - and your own personal assessment of the need to humiliate the deep state types into submission - which would be a vote for Trump.
Given how brazen those deep state types are being at the moment I weight this argument more highly than I otherwise might. The American federal infrastructure must be brought to heel if your country is to be anything more in the long run than merely another implementation of China.
Exactly. I supported Trump, and still agree with most of his ideas...but DeSantis is the guy. He can actually get shit done, and hopefully clean house of all the leftists. I'd like to see some of them hang, but alas, the price of no civil war will probably mean we don't actually get rid of the problem in a permanent way.
I'm going to give you a useful piece of advice:
Normies don't fucking care about Assange.
Normies don't fucking care about Snowden.
Normies care about having money in their bank and food on their plate.
It's hard not to notice that all the talk of a Trump-DeSantis feud is from MSM shills. With Trump's personality being what it is I don't think it's out of realm of possibility that he resents DeSantis but I've yet to see claims that don't come from unethical sources with a vested interest in shit stirring.
The media is baiting this infighting to hurt Republicans in the midterms.
Trump is sadly falling for the media bait.
Even on his Truth website, Trump is taking a few digs at DeSantis because I think he is truly scared that there is now one person who at least has a real shot to win against him in the 2024 primaries.
We still have 1.5 years before 2024 primaries. He needs to stop this infighting stupidity and just focus on midterms.
They're two different people, they're going to have at least some differences of opinion.
Conservatives think. They evaluate. They compare. You'll hear things like "choosing the lesser of two evils still chooses evil". They're basically very easily triggered to let perfection be the enemy of good. So the comparison between the two, slowly escalating to calling the other camp "shills", is a result of exploiting that.
Notice you'll never hear the left argue in this way. They know how to just pick someone and will bend over backwards to ignore anything they don't like about them.
Oh, they do. The shills just win hands down every time because all they have to do is shout "look at the evil fascist on the other side, we all need to get behind the globalist neolib right now or he's going to start genociding" and 80% of them shit their pants and do exactly what NPR tells them to do.
Because there's never been more then 1 option at a time. It's not a great precedent when the first time there's 2 ok candidates they can't trip each other up.
The libtards fear DeSantis and are trying to goad Trump into attacking him, hoping it will divide the Right and result in low voter turnout.
I saw a few recent Trump rallies and it is sad how he looks like Uncle Rico bragging about his glory days. He is looking past his prime.
Every person who is right wing should be solely focusing on winning the midterms right now not this petty in-fighting nonsense.
I really wish that someone younger and smarter than Trump is the nominee in 2024.
Everyone Trump endorses is going to win this November and everyone down-ballot of him will win in 2024. He's going to be the nominee. You're getting a 2nd Trump term and you're gonna like it.
Everyone Trump endorses is going to win?
I truly wish that was so.
Will you get back to me on election night when we will find out what happens to:
Tudor Dixon in MI
Doug Mastriano in PA
Dr. Oz in PA
Blake Masters in AZ
Herschel Walker in GA
The chances all five of these people win are less than 1 percent.
I wish they all win but reality is different.
Yea I doubt NYT will give him a fair interview
The NYT constantly smears Trump supporters as Nazis.
It is a huge insult to everyone who voted for Trump that Trump still enjoys giving Maggie Haberman interviews.
Trump's worst enemy is himself.
If it's a choice between Trump and DeSantis I'd go with DeSantis in a heartbeat. Trump is still surrounded by quislings and globalist fucktards like Jared Kushner.
Until I see evidence that he's cleaning up his own house I have no faith he's going to even attempt to clean up ours.
That said I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was setting up this goof that's LARPing as a journalist.
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