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Chile votes on constitutional referendum (web.archive.org)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +31 / -0
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– APDSmith 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

a 178-page document with 388 articles

That alone should be enough to tell you the proposed Chilean constitution is a complete dumpster fire.

"Here are your fundamental rights" dumps 400 page novel on the desk

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– xleb2 29 points 3 years ago +29 / -0

The USA: Here's your tax code citizens - 70,000 pages and a front end loader.

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– APDSmith 27 points 3 years ago +27 / -0

Yup. Legal systems that complex aren't meant to be complied with. They are intended to be broken - by everybody - so that you are beholden to the good graces of the government.

I really do wish that these people weren't so determined to prove Ayn Rand right.

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– AntonioOfVenice 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

"Here are your fundamental rights" dumps 400 page novel on the desk

To paraphrase Frederick the Great and Homer: when everything is a right, then nothing is a right. A multitude of rights is not a good thing.

Why? Because rights inevitably clash, especially when you have 178 pages of them. And when rights clash, one right has to take precedence, violating another right, which then is not really a right.

If you have both a right to free speech and to not have your feelings hurt, then you don't have free speech.

So this is perfect for the rulers, as citizenssubjects have no rights.

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– APDSmith 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Or perhaps:

We have so many rights that everybody is violating somebody's rights!

Sadly, the State, being possessed of limited resources, is only able to prosecute the most egregious opposition offenders.

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– TentElephant 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

It got crushed 62 against 38 in favor.

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– Kaarous 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

Don't worry, they'll be made to vote again as many times as it takes, until the Bolsheviks get what they want and then they have to be butchered again.

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– xleb2 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

That's what the EU did.

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– Brennus 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

That’s just what leftist do. Look at amendments the left pushed in California that would get voted down prior to total dnc control.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Yes, it was an amazing win, but the article I archived went from talking about that, to reverting to an older edition. I'm sure I made a mistake somewhere.

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– TyroneNiggums 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

That proposed constitution is crazy Left. Just look at all of the Leftist buzzwords in it.

More bothersome for the LatAm region, Cuba will soon have a referendum on homosexual marriage that will very easily pass.

Hard to believe that the Cuban Communists went from putting homosexuals in camps all the way to being behind this.

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– ailurus 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

That's why I just shake my head at the people in the US - especially the conservatives - who keep saying we need a convention of states to revisit the constitution. If it ever happens, there is a <1% chance it will actually be an improvement and a >99% chance it will just end up adding in a bunch of lefty "compromises"

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– Tourgen 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

the bitter truth is that the establishment right-wing conservatives are fully zionist-controlled. They work to simply prevent actual conservatives from ever achieving anything.

If you ever wonder in frustration why the right is so ineffective, that's most of the reason why. Of course, the other issue is 70yr+ old boomers who are essentially retarded.

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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Ah yes, Cuba, the country that I'm told stands firm against American aggression and cultural imperialism. Not so much, apparently.

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– GeneralBoobs 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

When you chose your delegates based upon progressive stack bullshit, you get bullshit outcomes. Welcome to democracy.

Choose better or get what you fucking deserve.

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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I am glad this got ignominiously crushed.

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– alucard13mmfmj 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Probably dont want their kids to be faggoty and multilated by pedos. They see america and west being destroyed from within by woke bullshit that started with "progressive".

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Oddly, that's not what I had been reading. They rejected the referendum, but its like the article I read isn't there.

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– realerfunction 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

oh wow, that's a landslide.

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– norwegianwikin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

We should all have a celebratory listen to "Mi General Augusto Pinochet"

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

The referendum lost 62-38, which means that a lot of womans voted against too.

How come some members of the Dread Gender voted against it.

Is it to give men a false sense of security?

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Because old people like tradition.

So you're suggesting that women aren't automatically bad? Hiss. Have you gone soft?

You have no idea how bad this shit will get when the baby boomers die off.

Oh, I absolutely do. Mostly because of brainwashing in school.s

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– AntonioOfVenice 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I never said they were automatically bad.

When you say "women are the oppressors" or equate them with Nazis, or just whine about them generically like feminists do about men, without making any qualification, then obviously you are saying they are automatically bad.

I said that they usually are and the younger the group you look at, the more obvious it is.

Is the problem the fact that they are female, or that they are feminists?

For 10 points, can you tell me who makes up the majority of teachers?

The opposite of the majority of rapists and murderers.

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– MattTheBlack 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Most younger women are feminist by default because they have been indoctrinated all their lives into it. Only spineless young men continue being feminist into adulthood.

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