Sodomy laws work like weed laws. Weed is a regulated substance but people smoke regardless and they have been for ages, and as long as they don't flaunt it too much, noone cares. (No, gorillions of negroes aren't in prison for decades "for a little plant", it's always "a little plant oh and also a murder" because weed is like ghetto rat catnip and they always have some on them when they get busted.)
The real purpose of these laws is to make something relatively harmless "illegal" and therefore taboo, so that rebelious teenagers focus on that. Either they just smoke and move on, or they get caught, get a stern talking to at the police station, and it scares them straight. Most of the time anyway, obviously there are some who will just start using even if it's illegal and it'll fry their brains.
But when you legalize weed and remove the taboo, those same rebellious teenagers won't stop being rebellious, they'll just replace weed with something way more dangerous, like meth.
Same thing applies to sodomy. Noone gives a shit if two degenerates want to stick it up each others' poopers, but when it was taboo, a larger number than today stopped there. Now it's not taboo at all, it's even promoted, just like weed, and instead of just fucking in private they do it in the streets, and instead of fucking one dude they fuck dozens at a time.
Weed laws are basically the "how to find a to find a gun" law. If a guy is blatantly smoking it in his car while driving it gave cops reason to pull him over and usually the dude was breaking a more serious law at the same time or had open warrants for serious crimes.
The real purpose of these laws is to make something relatively harmless "illegal" and therefore taboo, so that rebelious teenagers focus on that
The problem with this idea is that those "rebellious teens" are now in contact with a guy willing to commit major crimes just to sell it to them.
Which isn't a problem in those uber white areas where its just a dreadlocked stoner running the operation from his little farm, but it is in places with diverse populations wherein the same potdealer also runs numerous other illegal operations. The "gateway drug" idea wasn't out of some pure slippery slope, but because the same black gangbanger will sell you pot, pot mixed with shit, and crack all on the same table in his living room. Which takes away taboos from harder drugs because you end up having to trust this guy who will absolutely try to sell you stuff. And you can't just "nah I'm good" him for long. Both the threat of physical violence and being cut off are always on the table.
I'm not pro-legalization, but the idea of trying to false bait them into "just pot" only works in a Leave it to Beaver type America. Not one with ghetto trash actively dragging those same teens into the pit.
Right, that's fair. I grew up in a homogenously white society so the pot dealers were just harmless stoners - it's probably different in, as you say, diverse ones.
But when you legalize weed and remove the taboo, those same rebellious teenagers won't stop being rebellious, they'll just replace weed with something way more dangerous, like meth.
Is this actually true? That would suggest that weed use would decline where it is regulated. And I think the meth problem came up long before weed was legalized.
Bear in mind that I in no way favor the legalization of weed.
Now it's not taboo at all, it's even promoted, just like weed, and instead of just fucking in private they do it in the streets, and instead of fucking one dude they fuck dozens at a time.
I think the problem is not as much what 'people' do, and what the left starts pushing. As long as the left has a legitimate cause to push, it'll do that. When it's fresh out of legitimate causes, it starts pushing something illegitimate to downright evil. It is always pushing the envelope.
So imagining for a moment that complete equality between homosexuals and normal people is desirable: the legitimate cause would be same-sex marriage. But when that happened, it became Drag Queen story hour, castrating your kids, and all sorts of other nonsense.
Same for blacks. It's unquestionably correct to not have people be disadvantaged based on their color and race. But when that happened, they started advocating for riots, special preferences, busing, and God knows what.
It seems that even in cases where we think the left is correct, we should stop just short of 'remedying' the situation completely, to make the leftists stuck on the thing that is actually just - rather than moving on to the truly heinous stuff.
Is this actually true? That would suggest that weed use would decline where it is regulated. And I think the meth problem came up long before weed was legalized.
Bear in mind that I in no way favor the legalization of weed.
Well, the point is really the taboo. It hasn't been taboo in western mainstream for decades.
I think the problem is not as much what 'people' do, and what the left starts pushing. As long as the left has a legitimate cause to push, it'll do that. When it's fresh out of legitimate causes, it starts pushing something illegitimate to downright evil. It is always pushing the envelope.
So imagining for a moment that complete equality between homosexuals and normal people is desirable: the legitimate cause would be same-sex marriage. But when that happened, it became Drag Queen story hour, castrating your kids, and all sorts of other nonsense.
Same for blacks. It's unquestionably correct to not have people be disadvantaged based on their color and race. But when that happened, they started advocating for riots, special preferences, busing, and God knows what.
It seems that even in cases where we think the left is correct, we should stop just short of 'remedying' the situation completely, to make the leftists stuck on the thing that is actually just - rather than moving on to the truly heinous stuff.
Yeah, that's why this shit needs to be nipped in the bud. Every time they were given a mile they took the entire planet, so it's time to go back.
Well, the point is really the taboo. It hasn't been taboo in western mainstream for decades.
That suggests that it being a crime wasn't doing much.
Every time they were given a mile they took the entire planet, so it's time to go back.
Since there is no logic nor limiting principle, they'll eventually just spin out of control with their quest for novelty, destroying themselves and possibly their country in the process.
Bear in mind that the original gay rights movement openly included pedo shit. See Harry Hay. They only dropped that stuff later on. As I've said before, I think AIDS forced them to drop the pedo shit because they needed help from the normies to deal with it.
Actually, I believe they were pushing pedophilia long after AIDS. In the 1990s, there was a homosexual organization called ILGA, which was a federation of different organizations, and they included... pro-pedophilia organizations.
I'm sure they pushed it still. They push it now, but they used to not care as much about PR nightmares. I'm just speculating that AIDS forced them to care more, though. It could have also just been impatience with their lack of achievements.
Thats literally every law that exists. Or are you a retarded anarchist who thinks "laws are oppressive man, if there weren't any laws there wouldn't be any criminals!"
Sodomy laws work like weed laws. Weed is a regulated substance but people smoke regardless and they have been for ages, and as long as they don't flaunt it too much, noone cares. (No, gorillions of negroes aren't in prison for decades "for a little plant", it's always "a little plant oh and also a murder" because weed is like ghetto rat catnip and they always have some on them when they get busted.)
The real purpose of these laws is to make something relatively harmless "illegal" and therefore taboo, so that rebelious teenagers focus on that. Either they just smoke and move on, or they get caught, get a stern talking to at the police station, and it scares them straight. Most of the time anyway, obviously there are some who will just start using even if it's illegal and it'll fry their brains.
But when you legalize weed and remove the taboo, those same rebellious teenagers won't stop being rebellious, they'll just replace weed with something way more dangerous, like meth.
Same thing applies to sodomy. Noone gives a shit if two degenerates want to stick it up each others' poopers, but when it was taboo, a larger number than today stopped there. Now it's not taboo at all, it's even promoted, just like weed, and instead of just fucking in private they do it in the streets, and instead of fucking one dude they fuck dozens at a time.
So yeah, bring back sodomy laws.
Weed laws are basically the "how to find a to find a gun" law. If a guy is blatantly smoking it in his car while driving it gave cops reason to pull him over and usually the dude was breaking a more serious law at the same time or had open warrants for serious crimes.
The problem with this idea is that those "rebellious teens" are now in contact with a guy willing to commit major crimes just to sell it to them.
Which isn't a problem in those uber white areas where its just a dreadlocked stoner running the operation from his little farm, but it is in places with diverse populations wherein the same potdealer also runs numerous other illegal operations. The "gateway drug" idea wasn't out of some pure slippery slope, but because the same black gangbanger will sell you pot, pot mixed with shit, and crack all on the same table in his living room. Which takes away taboos from harder drugs because you end up having to trust this guy who will absolutely try to sell you stuff. And you can't just "nah I'm good" him for long. Both the threat of physical violence and being cut off are always on the table.
I'm not pro-legalization, but the idea of trying to false bait them into "just pot" only works in a Leave it to Beaver type America. Not one with ghetto trash actively dragging those same teens into the pit.
Right, that's fair. I grew up in a homogenously white society so the pot dealers were just harmless stoners - it's probably different in, as you say, diverse ones.
Is this actually true? That would suggest that weed use would decline where it is regulated. And I think the meth problem came up long before weed was legalized.
Bear in mind that I in no way favor the legalization of weed.
I think the problem is not as much what 'people' do, and what the left starts pushing. As long as the left has a legitimate cause to push, it'll do that. When it's fresh out of legitimate causes, it starts pushing something illegitimate to downright evil. It is always pushing the envelope.
So imagining for a moment that complete equality between homosexuals and normal people is desirable: the legitimate cause would be same-sex marriage. But when that happened, it became Drag Queen story hour, castrating your kids, and all sorts of other nonsense.
Same for blacks. It's unquestionably correct to not have people be disadvantaged based on their color and race. But when that happened, they started advocating for riots, special preferences, busing, and God knows what.
It seems that even in cases where we think the left is correct, we should stop just short of 'remedying' the situation completely, to make the leftists stuck on the thing that is actually just - rather than moving on to the truly heinous stuff.
Well, the point is really the taboo. It hasn't been taboo in western mainstream for decades.
Yeah, that's why this shit needs to be nipped in the bud. Every time they were given a mile they took the entire planet, so it's time to go back.
That suggests that it being a crime wasn't doing much.
Since there is no logic nor limiting principle, they'll eventually just spin out of control with their quest for novelty, destroying themselves and possibly their country in the process.
Bear in mind that the original gay rights movement openly included pedo shit. See Harry Hay. They only dropped that stuff later on. As I've said before, I think AIDS forced them to drop the pedo shit because they needed help from the normies to deal with it.
Actually, I believe they were pushing pedophilia long after AIDS. In the 1990s, there was a homosexual organization called ILGA, which was a federation of different organizations, and they included... pro-pedophilia organizations.
Only dropped it when it became a PR nightmare.
I'm sure they pushed it still. They push it now, but they used to not care as much about PR nightmares. I'm just speculating that AIDS forced them to care more, though. It could have also just been impatience with their lack of achievements.
According to Nerdrotic he saw nambla at a LA priest parade still in the early 2000s
It's still subjective enforcement. You're always gonna have a lunatic that tries to wield that as cudgel against anyone they don't like.
Thats literally every law that exists. Or are you a retarded anarchist who thinks "laws are oppressive man, if there weren't any laws there wouldn't be any criminals!"
While sharing a border with Canada, where the coke is legal, and the trans are in charge.
Trans-legal, Trans-sexual, Trans-judicial, Trans-Canadian, Trans-responsible.