This is a broad discussion style post, but it is something I have been thinking about over the last year. There has been repeat discussions on which of the anglo countries are the most screwed (personally, I think it is America with Americans of European descent set to be no longer the majority in just a couple decades). All of the west has declining birth rates plus feminism and other leftist thought having replaced Christianity. I know this is an incredibly vague topic but I am curious as to how the various western countries are fairing compared to each other.
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Don't sleep on Canada. They've gone crazy on immigration as well.
Yeah that's why rural Canada is mostly okay, but the urban centers are pretty bad.
Europe will become an extension of Africa and the Middle East with, maybe, a few small remaining Indo-European ethnostates. But they will be too few and too small in the big scheme of things.
Not on my watch.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned France. They're further along on replacement than, as far as I know, any other country in Europe. They have the whole "we're all French" thing mitigating it a bit, but that's not going to last. Multiculturalism never works.
Depends what you mean by fucked.
Australia and NZ never moved past Covid. UK is peak feminism. America is slowly dying to inflation.
Edit : After seeing that Boris' rumored replacement is a Gender Critical male genocide fangirl, I'm changing my vote to be solely the UK.
Five-eyes and derivations (nine-eyes etc.) The countries with the deepest ties to NATO and its associated intelligence agencies, are exactly the ones marching the fastest into fascism on all fronts.
Which shouldn't be surprising - the existence of five-eyes at all (let's spy on each other to circumvent our own laws) is an open and blatant dismissal of all the democratic ideals of civil liberties and so-called "western" values these countries claim to stand for. Same with Guantanamo as a way to circumvent the constitution.
South America.
No one here can answer this with any degree of accuracy, since that would take people actually knowing enough many different countries; but most of what people know is from biased media sources so is unreliable.
All you are going to get from this thread is a list of people's biased views based on these media representations.
"This is a broad discussion-type post"
They aren't looking for some soothsayer with a crystal ball, able to predict the future with 100% accuracy. They're specifically looking for that bundle of opinions and views that vary wildly person to person.
A biased view is still a useful view, if you know the bias exists.
My point is that it's just going to be a regurgitation of the common stereotypes for each country based on what's presented in the media. So it's not going to vary wildly from person to person. It'll mainly be the same biased representations, which I think is already evident.
If the question had been "tell us something about a country that you know at lot about" then the answers might be different and more useful.
I’d say Germany or Denmark. But here in America we seem to want to tear down a good thing
I'd say that the degenerative processes we're seeing unfold in Canada ahead of everywhere else.
I heard a few years ago that babies aren't even assigned male or female at birth anymore in Canada? If so, then they're clearly ahead of the curve on that issue.
I don't even think that putting all children on puberty blockers till a certain age isn't off the table for these people. They really will go to those lengths to erase the immutable characteristics that they've declared war on.
laughs in German
The cunts and sheep-fuckers may have been taken over but they lack the endless supply of Arabs and Africans and German guilt culture to really fuck them up.
On that note, Germany is a top candidate for a total meltdown. The government is in full "spite Putin" mode to the point where they'll run the remaining industry into the ground just to show them evil Russians. Energy prices were exploding even before Ukraine and they're only doubling down on policies that caused this.
Add to that the composition of German society that's a total powder keg. Pensions are becoming unfinancable. Healthcare premiums go up every year (they're %-based so the go up exponentially). Police are losing control to migrant clans and gangs. Violent crime is rising. Housing is becoming unaffordable. Working for a living is becoming less and less attractive. Violent far left extremists run rampant. Everything is gleichgeschaltet to ensure that nobody willing to change any of that gets a say.
Native Germans have been taught to suffer well but once the government can no longer pay gibs for the million or so migrants on welfare shit is going to hit the fan. Stay away from large cities.
Aus/NZ still have collective, institutionalized guilt. It's just that the perpetual victims are the Aborigines and Maoris in those respective countries. It's probably worse than in Germany: Germans don't believe that they unjustly stole the land from some indigenous, native group; whereas there is a strong belief that the civilizations sitting on Aus/NZ are in some way 'illegitimate'. And that White people should just hand over everything to these small minorities and return to Europe.
Notice, strangely, that nobody objects to all the Chinese, Indians and others in those countries despite the fact that they are not indigenous either, and that it was the illegitimate settler states that let them in the first place. I'm not sure how an illegitimate state can confer legitimacy onto immigrants, given that all of its decisions should also be illegitimate, but all this eludes the Left-wing morons who on one hand talk about justice for the indigenous whilst simultaneously flooding indigenous land with millions of people, all without their consent.
White Leftists in those countries basically declared their own people illegitimate whilst declaring absolutely everyone else (whether indigenous or people fresh off the boat) legitimate. The relationship between the Left-wing political classes and the indigenous is totally bizarre. My feeling that is that they don't even care about the indigenous except as a sort of justification for their ethnomasochism. They'd totally throw them under the bus given the right circumstances, since they're completely insignificant as a voter bloc and only other White Leftists (whose numbers are shrinking as a proportion of the electorate) really sympathize with their supposed plight.
People from Asia or wherever only really bring this stuff up when they have an issue with White people, but they don't live and breathe this collective guilt. Their view, I think, can be summarized as: 'Not my ancestors, not my problem.'
NZ is probably the worse of the two. The largest city probably went 'majority-minority' since the last census, whereas to my knowledge no Australian city has yet become 'majority-minority'. Of course, America in that respect is far worse, since many cities, like SF and LA, have long been 'majority-minority'.
The absurdity of it all is we're remembering so hard, we're doing it all over again. The parallels between today and the early Nazi era is striking.
Black criminals didn't need any help committing crime.
The German psychotic guilt for WWII translates into their pathological coddling of Russia. They don't have attitudes regarding Poland, or Ukraine for that matter. It's only the Jews and the Russians, and no one else.
https://www.rferl.org/a/berlin-moscow-and-war-guilt-why-germany-accommodates-russia/25409920.html
(The "Street combat in the streets of Stalingrad in 1942." photo is fake and gay. Soviet troops there and then could only dream of such gear, besides the guys being shaven and super clean. Compare that with authentic German photos of dirty "pirates" of the Wehrmacht in the city.)
Ya how dare they? Should just leave the war mongering to the jews and their pets.
holocaust didn't happen
Humongous wot? Humongous wot? Humongous wot?
Nice autocorrect.
NZ is so ahead of Australia it's not even a contest.
Australia actually takes Afrikaner refugees today, has actual refugee camps for illegals and race riots, and only half century had the official motto "Keep Australia White".
In regards to central and Southern America; Argentina has severe issues with regressive leftist corruption, Venezuela is suffering from a collapsing communist dictatorship which ironically meant the regressive left may not have taken off there, Mexico has severe issues with crime and corruption so it's believed the regressive left never took off there as a result, Cuba is a Warsaw remnant communist dictatorship so the regressive left likely never took off there, and Brazil has severe issues with extremist court corruption despite Jair Bolsonaro being in charge, along with general reports of the regressive left being active there.
In Asia; S. Korea has issues with extremist feminists there, there are attempts to bring regressive leftism into japan, the PRC actively discriminates against the regressive left despite promoting them outside the country, I have no info on regressive left presence in Taiwan, and I suspect the regressive left never took off in third world Asian countries. Malaysia and Indonesia are Islamic shitholes so you can guess why there are likely no regressive leftists there, and North Korea is similar because the dictatorship made it impossible for regressive leftist ideas to permeate society while giving the leadership a good laugh at how this will likely impact enemy troop performance.
It's safe to assume the Islamic world in is openly hostile towards the regressive left, though in regards to the rest of the middle east; India, Nepal, Sri Lanka, and similar countries are likely too LGB unfriendly for them to thrive, I know nothing about Armenia, and Israel is currently believed to have growing globalist/regressive leftist corruption that will turn the country into the thing that neo-Nazis/white supremacists love to depict it as.
Venezuela: The opposition under Juan Guaido are actually more Left/regressive than Maduro. They're only less Left-wing economically. There isn't really a 'Right' in Venezuela.
Mexico: AMLO/MORENA are actually regressives. Soft on crime and drugs, etc.
Brazil: There's a fast growing regressivism there. Lula will likely be reelected as Bolsonaro's successor.
Regressives have also seen victories in numerous elections. Chile's Boric, Colombia's Petro and Honduras' Castro all indicate a resurgent pink wave. Peru's Castillo is also somewhere between regressive and Bolivarian-Chavismo.
Taiwan: I'd characterize the ruling DPP as regressive, e.g. their legalization of same-sex marriage.
Japan: I suspect same-sex marriage will be legal there within the next five-ten years. The opposition DPJ is quite regressive despite being a big tent.
Malaysia: For now, regressivism is mostly only among ethnic minorities like younger Chinese-Malaysians.
I agree that regressivism hasn't made noticeable inroads into Indonesia or North Korea. It is, however, in the Philippines, albeit largely confined to smaller parties like Makabayan (explicitly regressive party) and Gabriela (explicitly feminist party).
Israel indeed has strong regressivism. You can see that there's a real tension between Likudniks (who are pretty regressive themselves) and Israel's own regressives (e.g. Labor and Meretz), who are seen as too chummy with the Arab parties by the former.
Cubazuela plus Nicaragua (who are being joined by Peru, Chile, Colombia, etc as old Communist guerrillas finally get to power throughout the region despite having failed with armed revolutionary struggles, just like in V originally) are getting massively propped by Russia now. They're not collapsing, they're on the march like never before.
Bolivia practically goes alongside your first three. Morales and Arce have created a Leftist dominant-party system similar to that in Venezuela.
Honduras also goes into your second group. The Honduran military were able to stave off these people for a while by forcibly ousting Zelaya. However, Zelaya's wife has since been elected President.
Brazil will also rejoin that group next election.
So you're correct in saying that the pink tide, despite seeing serious setbacks with the election of more conservative or at least classical liberal people, like Bolsonaro, Uruguay's Lacalle Pou and Ecuador's Lasso, is making serious gains.
They are like Japan. I'd rather be like them than this kiked out multicultural shit hole.
Depending on how you're counting you've probably got Canada too high.
it has enough space and low enough population that it's not really in danger of being overrun outside the hive cities.
It's big enough to survive a breakdown of government and subsequent decomposition into it's constituent parts.
So sure Canada is pretty high up on the lower scale definitions of screwed, it's much better situated to resuscitate itself after a larger collapse. It's not in danger of being remade as an Islamic shithole like Sweden, Germany or the UK at the very least.
You're thinking too small. All of this is shitty now, yes. But think about after things start to crumble, how quickly these people will check out after the standard of living plummets. In such a situation Canada is in a much better situated to rebuild it's society from within rather than descending into the hellscape of starvation and pestilence that await the more densely populated parts of Europe. We can spread out. We aren't dependant of food imports. Alberta has oil.
Yes SJWs suck, but they are the small evil. It's the big evil that replaces the small evil that truly casts a shadow of death.