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NBC: The amendment ending slavery could be the key to securing abortion rights (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by Ahaus667 3 years ago by Ahaus667 +19 / -0
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– Ahaus667 [S] 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

The bill is breathtaking, with gender-inclusive language, intersectional and reproductive justice framing and references to international human rights norms, and it makes access to abortion services a matter of women’s equality. President Joe Biden announced on Thursday that he would support temporarily removing the filibuster’s 60-vote threshold in the Senate to get legislation protecting abortion passed.

Well this person is clearly deranged already

We need a new plan, and the 13th Amendment might be the answer. To satisfy the most ardent originalists who demand some textual basis for both individual rights and congressional authority to legislate, this plan would have to put Black people at the center of their legislative efforts in ways that Roe’s original privacy-based right did not.

What does this have to do with abortion?

Since the court decided Slaughter-House Cases in 1873, it has been accepted that the original intent of the framers of the 13th Amendment was to benefit those who were formerly enslaved. The 13th Amendment not only establishes declaratory freedom but also grants Congress all the power it needs to enact legislation that undoes slavery, as well as its “badges and incidents,” as the court has put it. Although neither the court nor Congress has set forth an exhaustive list of those badges and incidents, in 1968, the court found Congress has the authority to enact legislation aimed at alleviating the institution’s “burdens and disabilities.”

Ah so now abortion is necessary because slavery?

Denying the rights of reproductive health and choice, bodily integrity and personal autonomy was essential to U.S. slavery, which recognized enslavers’ complete dominion over the people they enslaved. U.S. slavery also forced enslaved women to reproduce, which fueled the domestic slave trade after the official prohibition on the importation of enslaved people into the U.S. in 1808.

And how does this allow you to murder babies?

enact reasonable laws that protect these rights today. Just as slavery branded all Blacks with slavery’s “badges and incidents,” regardless of status, Blackness rather than any other aspect of identity would trigger rights protected by any law enacted by Congress using its enforcement power under the amendment today. The 14th Amendment’s equal protection guarantee, meanwhile, would allow non-Black people to assert their right to enjoy the same rights the 13th Amendment grants to Black people as a matter of racial equality.

This is considered a rational argument from a law professor.

To be clear, this is not a claim that forced pregnancy, which occurs when abortion is not an option, and the absence of the full spectrum of other reproductive justice rights is analogous to slavery. Nor is it a plea for equality regardless of sex or gender. Rather, it is a direct claim that a law protecting Black people’s reproductive health is essential to Black freedom because enslavement denied Black people rights, including those recognized in Roe.

No, you just said a bunch of words that made no sense contextually.

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– Owmyballz 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Dude its a leftist. You can try to argue with them, but to them nothing matters but powers. Its like arguing with a duck about what is better Cadbury or Hershey. You can make a statement on it but the leftists is just a duck and can't comprehend anything beyond their own quacking.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Dude its a leftist. You can try to argue with them

I've encountered unironic Maoists who are more reasonable than some of the shitlibs in America.

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– Owmyballz 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Communists tend to not talk about the third of the population they are going to kill of through slavery. I'm sure there are genocidal maniacs that can come off quite polite and logical. And as you are sent to a gulag to use your calories to build a damn that will be your final resting place, you can think how logical they were.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If you're trying to come across logical, you're not going to express support for Mao, I assume.

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– Owmyballz 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If you're going to come across logical, you're not going to express support for communism.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That's my point. And yet, they're more logical and reasonable than these shitlibs.

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– Owmyballz 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Generally no. When you are talking with them ask them how much of the population they would be willing to sacrifice. They have no problems giving you numbers, means and degree to which they would happily torture, kill or maim to get their way. They are some of the least reasonable people present.

When you walk up to a man and ask him why is he hacking off his limb and he tells you he wants to see if he can regrow a limb. And you ask him who told him that. The 10,000 guys in his village who tried and failed before. Is that man logical and reasonable? They know the consequences of their action, they know what will happen if they do it and yet they advocate for it anyways. They are the definition of insane.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– reidj 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If the court decided this way, affirmative action and all programs to benefit one race exclusively would have to be open to people of all races.

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– Smith1980 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

I guess they never look over these articles and see how stupid they sound

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– Ahaus667 [S] 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

This one’s a doozy. D.C. law professor is now claiming that abortion is a tool of slavery therefore abortion should be legal.

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– evilplushie 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Wait if abortion is a tool of slavery, shouldn't they want to ban tools of slavery

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– TentElephant 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

The greatest contribution of social media is that it accustomed the elite class to not hiding their severe retardation.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Anyone can agree to something that is true or intelligent.

It's a test of loyalty to force people to agree to something that is false and ridiculously stupid.

In other news, men can get pregnant, Clarence Thomas is white, returning the abortion decision to the people is an 'attack on democracy'.

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– acp_k2win 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

funny if it went to court - 5/4 decision - "actually we are misinterpreting the 13th amendment and slavery is epic and based"

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– Hogbutcher 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Woman are colored slaves so let them kill.

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– Filo76 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The level of mental gymnastics the left engages in is astonishing.

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– deleted 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0
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– redman012 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

They’re treating pregnancy as “involuntary servitude”

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– cartoonericroberts 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

The article claims they are not but it doesn't really make sense otherwise. I guess it's all "penumbra" shit, which is funny because the whole reason RvW got overturned is because penumbra shit don't cut it anymore. I don't think they want to go the "involuntary servitude" route because my god the precedent that would set: child support, the draft, alimony, probably a shit ton of stuff I haven't thought of that would overwhelmingly benefit men.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Spreading your legs make it voluntary.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– fauxgnaws 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And treating fathers having to work for free for half the year for 20 years as "not involuntary servitude".

It's literally (sic) indentured servitude.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's right there, in the emanations from the penumbras.

What, are you blind or stupid?

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Preposterous. I bet you're even too stupid to know that men can get pregnant.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

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