The problem with "the left are the real racists" argument isn't that it's false. It's that it's not an effective argument for persuading people on either side.
For leftists: a) They don't give a shit about being hypocrites. You'll never shame a leftist into intellectual honesty. Pointing out their hypocrisy can convert their audience, but you'll never convince a leftist that their beliefs and policies are racist, even though they are. b) They really don't give a shit about racism anyway. For them it's just a grift and/or a way to grab more power. They don't give a shit about groups they use as props for their agenda. Just ask one of the black guys that post here how the left treats them when they contradict their talking points.
For right wingers: We know accusations of racism are bludgeons to silence others and a dirty trick to gain power. We don't take them seriously for that reason. We also know that the only racism in this country is against whites. Other groups are in the predicaments they're in because of their own shitty behavior. They do just fine when they act like civilized human beings.
You'll never shame a leftist into intellectual honesty.
The issue is: what way back is there for Lefties? They follow an ideology that quite consciously contains no way to de-escalate. They will only realise their folly when the mob comes for them.
Don't waste your time thinking you're changing a diehard leftie's mind. All you're doing is showing the normies what that leftie has planned for them.
This is why I wrote about the idea that Leftism can take any path as a philosophy of War, because "Left" is a purely relative direction.
The Left have taken contradictory positions, sometimes at the same time, on literally any issue. Leftists have been Nationalists, Internationalists, and Isolationists. They have opposed and proposed homosexuality. They invented Autarkey as a concept, and have also facilitated international trade. They call for the deaths of landlords while being home-owners that rent. They have endorsed, condemned, and endorsed racialism and antisemitism. They have made the environment their primary concern, and also claimed that tamining nature was necessary for industrial progress. They have claimed the sole right to speak on behalf of women, and now they don't even know what that means.
There is no path that they are denied. They simply keep going "Left" and changing direction, claiming that their direction of movement was the linear and inevitable path of history.
As with literally every other topic, they will simply change direction on a given topic. Whomever has enough force to appear the strongest in that argument, will stay the Left (normally the people who initiated the change). Then everyone else will be classified as a right-wing reactionary. This is what they mean when they say, "every progressive of today, is tomorrow's conservative".
This is already what is happening to the TERFs. They are Leftists by literally any other means, but they are losing ground literally everywhere but the UK to the Queers and Transgenders. As such, the TERFs are being called rightists, including die hard 1970's feminists who praised the SCUM Manifesto. So, as the "Left" adjusts it's direction in objective space, it claims that the other group which didn't move from their position were right-wing reactionaries.
In the end, all that matters to most default Leftists is power. They only want to be on the "winning" side because it is safe to do so. Therefore, all you have to do to gain support of Leftists is to simply win.
We saw this with the George Floyd Riots in 2020. The places that experienced the hardest rioting didn't shift right, they shifted left. Moderates voted Leftist because it appeared that the Left was winning. Honest to God, if Trump had deployed a Marine Battalion to Portland and killed 150 Antifa rioters, he would have lost every state but Oregon. Most moderate Leftists are only responding to power incentives, regardless of ideological consistency. All the right has to do is win, and then (no, really), most of the default left will come along quietly.
The Leftists themselves will just change tactics and orientation.
They'll either figure it out on their own or they'll die. Wasting time trying to change their minds is like reading Shakespeare to a dog. A waste of breath.
I'm not being a tough guy, the consequences don't have to be violent or vengeful. Just 'x action = x result'. It's a simple truth that some people don't understand anything but consequences, and many leftists haven't had any meaningful ones. They're enabled at all times and from all angles. Consequences = reality, which is what they're most deficient in.
(Some people are a special breed of stupid that don't understand consequences either, the best you can do with them is make sure they're incapable of posing a threat to anyone)
I don't think it's "just fine" to force the black man to act white. I think it is contrary to his nature, and in fact he is worthy of a country to call his own where black standards may be enforced.
"Force" wasn't part of the deal. It's a choice. The way America is/was supposed to work is, you can choose good, and do well, or choose poorly, and fail.
It's the Liberal narrative that choices are actually force, by virtue of choice carrying consequence. They seek to equalize outcomes regardless of good choices and poor ones (through Governmental muscle, aka "force").
If black people had their own country they might establish different rules for what is acceptable that would be easier for them to comply with. For instance, it might be acceptable for the poor to steal from the rich. Maybe cheating on your taxes isn't a crime. There is such a thing as absolute right and wrong, but it doesn't map directly onto laws, or onto the mechanism of crime and punishment.
For another example, in several Asian and Arab countries drug trafficking is punishable by death. Is that right or wrong? IDK, but it may work for them. That sort of self determination is every people's right.
The problem with "the left are the real racists" argument isn't that it's false. It's that it's not an effective argument for persuading people on either side.
For leftists: a) They don't give a shit about being hypocrites. You'll never shame a leftist into intellectual honesty. Pointing out their hypocrisy can convert their audience, but you'll never convince a leftist that their beliefs and policies are racist, even though they are. b) They really don't give a shit about racism anyway. For them it's just a grift and/or a way to grab more power. They don't give a shit about groups they use as props for their agenda. Just ask one of the black guys that post here how the left treats them when they contradict their talking points.
For right wingers: We know accusations of racism are bludgeons to silence others and a dirty trick to gain power. We don't take them seriously for that reason. We also know that the only racism in this country is against whites. Other groups are in the predicaments they're in because of their own shitty behavior. They do just fine when they act like civilized human beings.
The issue is: what way back is there for Lefties? They follow an ideology that quite consciously contains no way to de-escalate. They will only realise their folly when the mob comes for them.
Don't waste your time thinking you're changing a diehard leftie's mind. All you're doing is showing the normies what that leftie has planned for them.
Yes. They go Left in another direction.
This is why I wrote about the idea that Leftism can take any path as a philosophy of War, because "Left" is a purely relative direction.
The Left have taken contradictory positions, sometimes at the same time, on literally any issue. Leftists have been Nationalists, Internationalists, and Isolationists. They have opposed and proposed homosexuality. They invented Autarkey as a concept, and have also facilitated international trade. They call for the deaths of landlords while being home-owners that rent. They have endorsed, condemned, and endorsed racialism and antisemitism. They have made the environment their primary concern, and also claimed that tamining nature was necessary for industrial progress. They have claimed the sole right to speak on behalf of women, and now they don't even know what that means.
There is no path that they are denied. They simply keep going "Left" and changing direction, claiming that their direction of movement was the linear and inevitable path of history.
As with literally every other topic, they will simply change direction on a given topic. Whomever has enough force to appear the strongest in that argument, will stay the Left (normally the people who initiated the change). Then everyone else will be classified as a right-wing reactionary. This is what they mean when they say, "every progressive of today, is tomorrow's conservative".
This is already what is happening to the TERFs. They are Leftists by literally any other means, but they are losing ground literally everywhere but the UK to the Queers and Transgenders. As such, the TERFs are being called rightists, including die hard 1970's feminists who praised the SCUM Manifesto. So, as the "Left" adjusts it's direction in objective space, it claims that the other group which didn't move from their position were right-wing reactionaries.
In the end, all that matters to most default Leftists is power. They only want to be on the "winning" side because it is safe to do so. Therefore, all you have to do to gain support of Leftists is to simply win.
We saw this with the George Floyd Riots in 2020. The places that experienced the hardest rioting didn't shift right, they shifted left. Moderates voted Leftist because it appeared that the Left was winning. Honest to God, if Trump had deployed a Marine Battalion to Portland and killed 150 Antifa rioters, he would have lost every state but Oregon. Most moderate Leftists are only responding to power incentives, regardless of ideological consistency. All the right has to do is win, and then (no, really), most of the default left will come along quietly.
The Leftists themselves will just change tactics and orientation.
This makes me think of Leftism as a societal shit test.
And the fact is that we, as a society, are failing it terrifies me.
It's not a "shit test". It's a scam designed to allure the power-hungry for exploitation.
What way back is there for leftists?
None.
They'll either figure it out on their own or they'll die. Wasting time trying to change their minds is like reading Shakespeare to a dog. A waste of breath.
Consequences.
I'm not being a tough guy, the consequences don't have to be violent or vengeful. Just 'x action = x result'. It's a simple truth that some people don't understand anything but consequences, and many leftists haven't had any meaningful ones. They're enabled at all times and from all angles. Consequences = reality, which is what they're most deficient in.
(Some people are a special breed of stupid that don't understand consequences either, the best you can do with them is make sure they're incapable of posing a threat to anyone)
I don't think it's "just fine" to force the black man to act white. I think it is contrary to his nature, and in fact he is worthy of a country to call his own where black standards may be enforced.
"Force" wasn't part of the deal. It's a choice. The way America is/was supposed to work is, you can choose good, and do well, or choose poorly, and fail.
It's the Liberal narrative that choices are actually force, by virtue of choice carrying consequence. They seek to equalize outcomes regardless of good choices and poor ones (through Governmental muscle, aka "force").
Which is why they hate Christianity. Such is the demonic impetus.
If black people had their own country they might establish different rules for what is acceptable that would be easier for them to comply with. For instance, it might be acceptable for the poor to steal from the rich. Maybe cheating on your taxes isn't a crime. There is such a thing as absolute right and wrong, but it doesn't map directly onto laws, or onto the mechanism of crime and punishment.
For another example, in several Asian and Arab countries drug trafficking is punishable by death. Is that right or wrong? IDK, but it may work for them. That sort of self determination is every people's right.
Is the nature of white people communist self destructing retardation then🤔
kek, no, I made it up, but IIRC Lincoln was a black nationalist.