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Spain arrests YouTube star with 3 million subs for criticizing the Ukrainian government (national-conservative.com)
posted 4 years ago by Aurvandel 4 years ago by Aurvandel +81 / -0
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– cartoonericroberts 53 points 4 years ago +53 / -0

He condemned Russia’s military operation in Ukraine after it was launched in late February but kept pointing out what he saw as flaws in Kiev’s conduct during the ongoing conflict.

lol, how's that "liberal democracy" thing going

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– Steampunk_Moustache 34 points 4 years ago +34 / -0

Free speech until you say something that might matter.

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– aaarg 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah, as with that other thing we're not allowed to criticize.

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– Mystiker 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You mean rule 16?

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– Valis3 35 points 4 years ago +35 / -0

Noooooo you can't say bad words about (((our))) hero!!!

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– RealDrJester 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Why "((()))"?

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– SuspendBeforeYouBan 33 points 4 years ago +33 / -0

The USA is run by a lot of Jewish people with Jewish interests. George Soros funds a lot of interests in Europe and NA. Soros speaks about how he pushes his values specifically because he's Jewish. Zalenskyy is Jewish. Russian oligarchs are Jewish and complain they're fighting National Socialists. The Jewish influence is written all over the Ukrainian war. ((())) Represents Jew without saying Jew.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

But there is nothing supporting these views.

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– SuspendBeforeYouBan 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

Oy vey, there is no evidence to support everything widely available with a simple internet search from valid left-wing mainstream approved sources.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I mean, there has been centuries those myths were spread, and nothing, not even one droplet of truth to even prove one single thing has ever come out.

Roe v Wage came out, imagine something this big, and not even one morsel of truth to prove it.

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– SuspendBeforeYouBan 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

How have there been centuries of rumors about what George Soros is up to and what nationality Russian oligarchs are or Zalenskyy? And USA's Jewish influence was really only evident in the last century so likely not centuries of evidence. I don't really see many Americans bring it up until late 1800s and early 1900s at the earliest.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

About the "Jewish influence". Not a single shred of evidence. George Soros sure, but he does that despite his faith or ethnicity. Since many non-Jews(overwhelming) does it too.

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– Soperp 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

dalse

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– deleted 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0
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– CatoTheElder 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

Nah, all you have to do is link that screen capture of him with the Israeli flag in the background.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

How many times have you fapped to that image?

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– CatoTheElder 28 points 4 years ago +28 / -0

You are a jew and a faggot.

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– Stuffyknows2much 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

Who let Justin Trudeau in here?

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I am not into men, that's you. So, stop projecting, and lastly, what is wrong in being Jewish?

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– Mystiker 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I have no idea what you're talking about, who would do something as terrible as that?

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– deleted 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0
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– SuspendBeforeYouBan 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Weird how some guys are into being fisted by women.

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0
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– GeneralBoobs 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Because he has vagina envy.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Very good point!

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– deleted 29 points 4 years ago +29 / -0
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– tylerthet3 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Spain is explicitly a feminist hellhole. They wore masks outside for months. They still may be wearing them outside. They wore masks in the ocean for goodness sake.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

Shariy had been granted political asylum in the EU

Imagine needing political asylum and thinking you might actually have protection in the EU of all places.

It is amusing that they dropped all protection on the secret police complaint of a non-EU nation, though.

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Agree, he should have gone to Russia, as long as he keeps parroting the official account from the Kremlin he will be safe.

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– lapalapa 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

If he would do that, he might as well have stayed in Ukraine and parrot their version.

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He could do what that lancaster dude is doing. Fake news all around and in Ukraine.

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– realerfunction 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

fuck ukraine

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– bloodguard 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Point people that are dismissing concerns about Biden's Ministry of Truth to stories like this.

You just know the crazy eyed nutter they put in charge of it is going to demand prosecutorial powers next.

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– covok48 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

“No freedom-o of speech-o.”

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– xmasskull 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

El "right-o"!!

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– aaarg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

We better don't say anymore that Ukraine sucks.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The news seems quite suspicious. I will definitely need more to believe it. As imp said, only Russian websites covered it.

Because this feels very much akin to what Russians are going through in Russia, with questioning the Kremlin narrative(leads to 10/15 years of jail and/or fine). There is no actual law in Spain that covers criticizing Ukraine. And Spain hasn't done anything with the same level of fervor as the UK. If the news used UK, France l, Germany, Poland and the other Baltic countries it would have been slightly more believable. Lithuania can not unilaterally revoke any asylum given by the EU.

Sorry but this smells like fake news. Or at the very least misinformation.

I will change my mind on this subject accordingly if more reliable evidence comes up.

EDIT: some more digging I found this website that said he did get arrested but provided no other info in regards to Lithuania, or for criticizing Ukraine.

https://imi.org.ua/en/news/shariy-detained-in-spain-i45407

According to this website he is also out on bail https://imi.org.ua/en/news/spanish-court-releases-shariy-on-bail-media-i45420

The website doesn't seem to be pro-Russia either, as they are reporting crimes Russia did against journalists. https://imi.org.ua/en/monitorings/russia-s-media-crimes-in-war-against-ukraine-to-be-updated-i44108 and https://imi.org.ua/en/monitorings/russians-have-killed-six-journalists-since-beginning-of-invasion-imi-i44470

And so far, my opinion has changed to "misinformation" from "fake news"

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– cartoonericroberts 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

There is no actual law in Spain that covers criticizing Ukraine.

That's not how extradition works. It doesn't need to be illegal in Spain. In fact that would make extradition more difficult because Spain would have jurisdiction.

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– Assassin47 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

EDIT: some more digging I found this website that said he did get arrested but provided no other info in regards to Lithuania, or for criticizing Ukraine. https://imi.org.ua/en/news/shariy-detained-in-spain-i45407 And so far, my opinion has changed to "misinformation" from "fake news"

The story is that he got arrested. Lithuania is irrelevant. In the article you linked Ukraine seems to admit this is why he was arrested. Your conclusion is unwarranted.

suspected of treason by the SSU

According to SSU investigators, he conducted illegal activities to the detriment of Ukraine's national security in the information sphere. There are grounds to believe, the SSU notes, that Shariy was acting on behalf of foreign structures.

the interviews and speeches of A. Shariy constitute subversive activities against Ukraine

Now you could argue that the headline and OP are misleading by not mentioning he's a Ukrainian citizen, but it's in the first line of the story.

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I am quoting the article initially. Especially the part of Lithuania, which felt really off. My conclusion at the end shows I changed my mind from full fabrication to misinformation. Is that not the right thing to do when you get new information about something? Is it not natural for one to change their opinion based on new information?

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– lolfail9001 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

So, why did this guy (and I was aware of his existence ever since his anti-maidan days) end up in Spain, anyway.

You'd think he would be far better off in Russia... Oh, right.

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