Not really, all you have to do it put a Web shortcut on your phone and you have twitter. The app store is completely and utterly superfluous at this point. People just haven't figured it out.
Another option is competitive appstores. I already use F-Droid for most of my app downloads, because most of the apps I use are open source. Naturally that specific store might not appeal to everyone, there is a vacuum forming in the Android app market.
Pretending their ToS are currently applied evenly and fairly (they aren't), this is pretty easy to get around by having two tiers of moderation, what someone else called different "views" earlier. Posts that get flagged for any of the "Mobile Platform" rules are blurred out with a link saying "This post may violate our Mobile Terms of Service. Click here to view it at Twitter.com." Done. You could go further by splitting posts across different domains.
But we all know this is a bully tactic and nothing may be good enough for them.
Name one good technical reason by Twitter needs to be an app and not just a mobile website.
Why are people so stupidly adamant that everything they use on their phone be an app? And because people demand an app, companies neglect their mobile sites in favor of developing their app (and because companies want the ability to track and spam you easier that an app provides versus a website).
I would guess there is large overlap between people who don't really understand what an app is and the people saying "you must protect me from the bad words". Normies destroyed the web. But they aren't going away and I don't know if driving them all off to another platform is what Musk wants.
I agree that there is a large overlap, but only because it is an incredibly small minority of people that have noticed what I'm talking about. I don't think it's one political side specifically; everyone is guilty of perpetuating this shit.
Although, some of the only non-technical people who have seen the light are people who used Gab (or this site) and were forced to try the "Add to Homescreen" option from their browser to get an app-like, fullscreen experience from nothing more than a mobile website.
Twitter probably has enough momentum to just publish their own Android APK and ignore Google. Apple banning Twitter would probably be worse from a user retention standpoint due to no easy and permanent sideloading.
It's my understanding AWS has a contract with Twitter, so it's unclear how that would shake out. Maybe Elon can move what they're running on AWS to private facilities or Oracle Cloud.
If Elon is committed to free speech the first step is to make Twitter have as little dependence on third parties as possible ASAP.
because pissing off the single guy who could possibly jump start another competing tech company by just saying he’s putting x amount of money towards it and is looking for adventure capital. History has shown if he wants to do something he will find away to make it happen
Oh gee, now Elon is going to have to build a smart phone as well. I don't think Apple or Google really understand that their smooth brain workers are dealing with a fucking autist who loves coming up with new ideas and has the technological and social skills to make it come true.
It's more of a symbolic gesture, what I really mean is - is Twitter forgiven or do we act as normal?
For the boycott list I am managing for MGTOW I put this :
Twitter is being taken over by Elon Musk. It remains to be seen if he will change their enforcement on "misogyny". For now, I don't give any advice on whether to boycott or support him, decide for yourselves.
My personal position is that he shouldn't be trusted because of his birth rate grift.
Netflix tanking proves that if you have enough people, it can do real damage. 700 -> 190.
I'm not crazy enough to think 30-40 people here can push a friendly Twitter to profit, but if each one of us tells other people, who tell more people etc etc, you'll have enough over time.
Netflix competes with other services whose ownership shares the same ideology so it's pretty meaningless if it tanks. The only intriguing aspect of this is the possibility of rogue elite. That could be Musk, but I'm not convinced. He does a bit of trolling, but I haven't seen a serious commitment out of him yet.
Someone made a suggestion the other day that I liked.
If they're going to verify everyone anyway, use driver's licenses instead of phones and you can determine their nationality.
Then you go to the law agencies and say "You each get 5 mod accounts. You have power only over users in your country but you can do whatever you want".
Puts the ball back in the governments hands. The biggest problem with government censorship is that they're offshoring it to big tech so no one is able to fight back directly.
I was going to talk about Epic's fight against the same companies, but I'm still mad about their women's day BS.
They formed an organization to fight it, Epic and Match Group (read : Tinder and the other cesspits) are the leaders of it. Twitter could join their lawsuit.
Epic did get back onto iPhones via the GeForce Now client.
Epic found a lot of dirty dealings by Google to discourage sideloading, and a plan to make a bid to Tencent to try and force a hostile takeover of their company.
Likely that Twitter will face the same smear campaigns and shady tactics (Fake warnings that sideloaded apps could destroy your phone) as Epic did.
Elon will follow the nations laws that Twitter operates in. Europe will have no problems at all with what European twitter users are allowed to view on Twitter. Meanwhile Elon won't do anything on VPN's because they aren't outlawed in the EU so Euro's can get actual twitter with a simple VPN.
Yeah, but you were told Shaun King would be leaving by Shaun King himself.
Can you really trust a liar to lie?
Can you?
Or apps become worthless.
Apple and Google have been censoring so much, at some point they'll reach critical mass and people get used to using the browser.
Not really, all you have to do it put a Web shortcut on your phone and you have twitter. The app store is completely and utterly superfluous at this point. People just haven't figured it out.
Another option is competitive appstores. I already use F-Droid for most of my app downloads, because most of the apps I use are open source. Naturally that specific store might not appeal to everyone, there is a vacuum forming in the Android app market.
Martin Luther Cream Jr.
That's why I said "supposedly".
Parag called his H1B army in Silicon Valley
Pretending their ToS are currently applied evenly and fairly (they aren't), this is pretty easy to get around by having two tiers of moderation, what someone else called different "views" earlier. Posts that get flagged for any of the "Mobile Platform" rules are blurred out with a link saying "This post may violate our Mobile Terms of Service. Click here to view it at Twitter.com." Done. You could go further by splitting posts across different domains.
But we all know this is a bully tactic and nothing may be good enough for them.
lol, I'm pretty sure an official Twitter PWA could be spun up in like a week. It would be an improvement.
True but there's something to be said for store app convenience, especially having your app deployed on the default ROMs on millions of phones.
I am so fucking sick of "app culture."
Name one good technical reason by Twitter needs to be an app and not just a mobile website.
Why are people so stupidly adamant that everything they use on their phone be an app? And because people demand an app, companies neglect their mobile sites in favor of developing their app (and because companies want the ability to track and spam you easier that an app provides versus a website).
I would guess there is large overlap between people who don't really understand what an app is and the people saying "you must protect me from the bad words". Normies destroyed the web. But they aren't going away and I don't know if driving them all off to another platform is what Musk wants.
I agree that there is a large overlap, but only because it is an incredibly small minority of people that have noticed what I'm talking about. I don't think it's one political side specifically; everyone is guilty of perpetuating this shit.
Although, some of the only non-technical people who have seen the light are people who used Gab (or this site) and were forced to try the "Add to Homescreen" option from their browser to get an app-like, fullscreen experience from nothing more than a mobile website.
Do it. Destroy twitter. I'll take that as a bigger victory than uncensored twitter.
Does anyone think Elon is just going to just shrug his shoulders and let his investment die without a fight?
Please, Google, Apple, do it. I beg of you. Do it so you can be ruled to be an illegal cartel in open court.
Twitter probably has enough momentum to just publish their own Android APK and ignore Google. Apple banning Twitter would probably be worse from a user retention standpoint due to no easy and permanent sideloading.
It's my understanding AWS has a contract with Twitter, so it's unclear how that would shake out. Maybe Elon can move what they're running on AWS to private facilities or Oracle Cloud.
If Elon is committed to free speech the first step is to make Twitter have as little dependence on third parties as possible ASAP.
because pissing off the single guy who could possibly jump start another competing tech company by just saying he’s putting x amount of money towards it and is looking for adventure capital. History has shown if he wants to do something he will find away to make it happen
Oh gee, now Elon is going to have to build a smart phone as well. I don't think Apple or Google really understand that their smooth brain workers are dealing with a fucking autist who loves coming up with new ideas and has the technological and social skills to make it come true.
Is it time to stop posting archived Twitter links and support Elon?
I'm still a bit apprehensive because of his pushing of "everyone should have kids" and his pro-feminist position 10 years ago.
I would still archive, but I would put that in the comments and have the post link directly to Twitter.
I'm pretty sure it means nothing whatsoever whether anyone here "supports" Elon or not.
It's more of a symbolic gesture, what I really mean is - is Twitter forgiven or do we act as normal?
For the boycott list I am managing for MGTOW I put this :
My personal position is that he shouldn't be trusted because of his birth rate grift.
Oh yeah, You were banned for so long I forgot you still think markets, and by extension boycotts, can save you.
Netflix tanking proves that if you have enough people, it can do real damage. 700 -> 190.
I'm not crazy enough to think 30-40 people here can push a friendly Twitter to profit, but if each one of us tells other people, who tell more people etc etc, you'll have enough over time.
Netflix competes with other services whose ownership shares the same ideology so it's pretty meaningless if it tanks. The only intriguing aspect of this is the possibility of rogue elite. That could be Musk, but I'm not convinced. He does a bit of trolling, but I haven't seen a serious commitment out of him yet.
Yeah, the thing is, they haven't actually been banning hate groups. They've been banning competing hate groups.
If you banned hate groups including feminists it might work.
Also if they killed twitter entirely that would definitely be fine with me.
It's a fair point, but I would point out that Epic was directly taking money away from Apple.
Twitter isn't, at least not directly, so it may be a bit more difficult to justify to shareholders.
Someone made a suggestion the other day that I liked.
If they're going to verify everyone anyway, use driver's licenses instead of phones and you can determine their nationality.
Then you go to the law agencies and say "You each get 5 mod accounts. You have power only over users in your country but you can do whatever you want".
Puts the ball back in the governments hands. The biggest problem with government censorship is that they're offshoring it to big tech so no one is able to fight back directly.
I was going to talk about Epic's fight against the same companies, but I'm still mad about their women's day BS.
They formed an organization to fight it, Epic and Match Group (read : Tinder and the other cesspits) are the leaders of it. Twitter could join their lawsuit.
Epic did get back onto iPhones via the GeForce Now client.
Epic found a lot of dirty dealings by Google to discourage sideloading, and a plan to make a bid to Tencent to try and force a hostile takeover of their company.
Likely that Twitter will face the same smear campaigns and shady tactics (Fake warnings that sideloaded apps could destroy your phone) as Epic did.
Elon will follow the nations laws that Twitter operates in. Europe will have no problems at all with what European twitter users are allowed to view on Twitter. Meanwhile Elon won't do anything on VPN's because they aren't outlawed in the EU so Euro's can get actual twitter with a simple VPN.