I'll reiterate how much I hate these people that groom kids into the tranny and alphabet world.
I'm adding blame to the parents now too. Are you really not connected enough with what's going on with your kids to the point you can't tell they might have something wrong? Unless they are going through all of this as a joke, there has to be some sort of signs other than filling out school paperwork.
I think part of is not being sufficiently connected and involved in what's going on at school. Then there's also them naively thinking that their kid spouting off LGBT+ nonsense is "just a phase." They know nothing of how groomers prey upon vulnerable children or how they help these unaware aCtUaLlY tRaNS "eggs" to "hatch" and realize they were actually trans. Complicating matters is, like with any cult, the groomers encourage the children to say nothing to their parents.
Even sadder, these parents may be happy their child is so "progressive" and for standing up for other peoples' "rights." So when their child is suddenly coming out as trans and doing things to hurt themselves it completely blindsides them.
You could boil it down to parents not being connected enough to know what's going on. That essentially is the case, but I'd say it's not wholly their fault because a lot of these parents are normies. They were in school in the 80s-00s and things like LGBT+ nonsense, troon grooming, all of that just were not a thing. You can't watch out for something if you don't even know it's out there.
edit: Also, if you haven't I do recc you check out Abigail Scrier's book, Irreversible Damage. It's been a good while since I read it (and not in its entirety tbf, got busy with other things), but she does give all sorts of stories from parents and from that you see just how they "suddenly" found themselves with a "trans" child. Heart braking stuff.
I'd never say it's wholly on the parents. It would really be a fallacy to try to lay blame on any one entity. I hate to use their word, but this is one of those things I'd call "systemic." I mean if I were to think back I was a pretty shrewd kid at that age, I might could have kept such a thing from my parents. I certainly wouldn't have involved teachers or school admin, they were very much no-one that could be trusted. Nor would my peers have accepted it either, at least not very many. Hence where I go to the systemic, now it seems all of that I would have experienced is just totally different.
I may check that book out. I really have no idea why I have such an interest in the topic since I don't have any kids and all. I think I just have a soft spot for kids and hate people that take advantage of their natural naivety to push agendas.
It's well worth the read. And if you want to get the cliffs notes of it (Imp forgive me) she has plenty of interviews on various good podcasts on youtube and elsewhere up from when she was advertising the book.
I really have no idea why I have such an interest in the topic since I don't have any kids and all. I think I just have a soft spot for kids and hate people that take advantage of their natural naivety to push agendas.
For me, it's seeing the disproportionate link between autists and transgenderism and seeing (former) friends of mine who were on the spectrum fall into the cult in the mid-10 before we really knew anything about what's going on. I personally saw it wreck those peoples' lives (one even had a wife and kid. The wife ended up "discovering" she was trans too by the by and they divorced after both went trans). Haven't heard from any of them for years.
I may check that book out. I really have no idea why I have such an interest in the topic since I don't have any kids and all.
It's genetically instinctual -- a survival mechanism to maintain humanity's existence.
It's an instant response mechanism from adults to want to protect kids because kids are the gateway to the next generation. If you recognize that a child is in danger (due to innocence and the future they hold), an adult will instinctively want to protect the child until they can protect themselves, even if it isn't their kid.
Plus, you were a vulnerable kid yourself, so your pattern recognition has already been established for potential harms/threats, just as you noted.
If a child has their survival instincts inhibited and their pattern recognition for danger thwarted by groomers, then your own paternal nature kicks in (even if you don't have kids or maybe, consciously don't want them). Biologically you have an innate drive to want to protect the next generation for whom you see as being threatened by predators (we see it happen in the animal kingdom all the time).
It's how humanity has persisted so long, even in the face of evil's overwhelming odds to destroy it.
Yeah I think the "vulnerable kid yourself" part in particular. I was very much that around these same ages. Then on top of that I've always been really good with kids in the 10-15 age group and there's a ton of those in my extended family right now. So I think that's part of it, if one of them gets sucked in by a tranny groomer, I would be pissed.
I'd say that was my experience as well, and I'm just thinking of my own personal experience at that age. Probably the time I was most disconnected from my parents.
If I was coming of age today, being "raised" by my mom (being an awful person she can't keep a man around to save her life, but I digress)... I probably would've fallen into the transgenderism crap like my friends. Autistic, socially adrift, otherwise vulnerable to predation.. even with coming of age in the 10s it's a miracle I didn't fall into it when they did.
I'll reiterate how much I hate these people that groom kids into the tranny and alphabet world.
I'm adding blame to the parents now too. Are you really not connected enough with what's going on with your kids to the point you can't tell they might have something wrong? Unless they are going through all of this as a joke, there has to be some sort of signs other than filling out school paperwork.
I think part of is not being sufficiently connected and involved in what's going on at school. Then there's also them naively thinking that their kid spouting off LGBT+ nonsense is "just a phase." They know nothing of how groomers prey upon vulnerable children or how they help these unaware aCtUaLlY tRaNS "eggs" to "hatch" and realize they were actually trans. Complicating matters is, like with any cult, the groomers encourage the children to say nothing to their parents.
Even sadder, these parents may be happy their child is so "progressive" and for standing up for other peoples' "rights." So when their child is suddenly coming out as trans and doing things to hurt themselves it completely blindsides them.
You could boil it down to parents not being connected enough to know what's going on. That essentially is the case, but I'd say it's not wholly their fault because a lot of these parents are normies. They were in school in the 80s-00s and things like LGBT+ nonsense, troon grooming, all of that just were not a thing. You can't watch out for something if you don't even know it's out there.
edit: Also, if you haven't I do recc you check out Abigail Scrier's book, Irreversible Damage. It's been a good while since I read it (and not in its entirety tbf, got busy with other things), but she does give all sorts of stories from parents and from that you see just how they "suddenly" found themselves with a "trans" child. Heart braking stuff.
I'd never say it's wholly on the parents. It would really be a fallacy to try to lay blame on any one entity. I hate to use their word, but this is one of those things I'd call "systemic." I mean if I were to think back I was a pretty shrewd kid at that age, I might could have kept such a thing from my parents. I certainly wouldn't have involved teachers or school admin, they were very much no-one that could be trusted. Nor would my peers have accepted it either, at least not very many. Hence where I go to the systemic, now it seems all of that I would have experienced is just totally different.
I may check that book out. I really have no idea why I have such an interest in the topic since I don't have any kids and all. I think I just have a soft spot for kids and hate people that take advantage of their natural naivety to push agendas.
It's well worth the read. And if you want to get the cliffs notes of it (Imp forgive me) she has plenty of interviews on various good podcasts on youtube and elsewhere up from when she was advertising the book.
For me, it's seeing the disproportionate link between autists and transgenderism and seeing (former) friends of mine who were on the spectrum fall into the cult in the mid-10 before we really knew anything about what's going on. I personally saw it wreck those peoples' lives (one even had a wife and kid. The wife ended up "discovering" she was trans too by the by and they divorced after both went trans). Haven't heard from any of them for years.
It's genetically instinctual -- a survival mechanism to maintain humanity's existence.
It's an instant response mechanism from adults to want to protect kids because kids are the gateway to the next generation. If you recognize that a child is in danger (due to innocence and the future they hold), an adult will instinctively want to protect the child until they can protect themselves, even if it isn't their kid.
Plus, you were a vulnerable kid yourself, so your pattern recognition has already been established for potential harms/threats, just as you noted.
If a child has their survival instincts inhibited and their pattern recognition for danger thwarted by groomers, then your own paternal nature kicks in (even if you don't have kids or maybe, consciously don't want them). Biologically you have an innate drive to want to protect the next generation for whom you see as being threatened by predators (we see it happen in the animal kingdom all the time).
It's how humanity has persisted so long, even in the face of evil's overwhelming odds to destroy it.
Yeah I think the "vulnerable kid yourself" part in particular. I was very much that around these same ages. Then on top of that I've always been really good with kids in the 10-15 age group and there's a ton of those in my extended family right now. So I think that's part of it, if one of them gets sucked in by a tranny groomer, I would be pissed.
Comment saved. Definitely checking it out later.
Parent your children or someone else will
At that age, most parents are working too much and their kids are too busy and trying to be independent. At least, in my experience.
I'd say that was my experience as well, and I'm just thinking of my own personal experience at that age. Probably the time I was most disconnected from my parents.
If I was coming of age today, being "raised" by my mom (being an awful person she can't keep a man around to save her life, but I digress)... I probably would've fallen into the transgenderism crap like my friends. Autistic, socially adrift, otherwise vulnerable to predation.. even with coming of age in the 10s it's a miracle I didn't fall into it when they did.
It is even worse than the picture this paints, I assure you.
It always is
Straight conversion therapy
Just wait until they're supporting other mental illnesses in children, like depression.
Can't wait to see the suicide support plan and/or roping kit.
It's surprising that there isn't a rash of parents shooting up schools.
This is an observation not a call to action.
Death Penalty Offense. This should be something that we bring back the old ways to punish them.
even crazier, an adult female filled this out as if she was the child... she wrote "calling me [redacted] / they / them" next to "how can we support?"
12 year old girls don't have handwriting like this.
grooming begets termination