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[Tweet] A redacted "Gender Support Plan" in place in a NY middle school district, sent to Abigail Shrier by the mom of a 12 year old girl. The school district kept "gender change" secret from the mom. The only reason mom found out was because of a teacher's guilty conscience. (archive.fo)
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– cccpneveragain 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I'd never say it's wholly on the parents. It would really be a fallacy to try to lay blame on any one entity. I hate to use their word, but this is one of those things I'd call "systemic." I mean if I were to think back I was a pretty shrewd kid at that age, I might could have kept such a thing from my parents. I certainly wouldn't have involved teachers or school admin, they were very much no-one that could be trusted. Nor would my peers have accepted it either, at least not very many. Hence where I go to the systemic, now it seems all of that I would have experienced is just totally different.

I may check that book out. I really have no idea why I have such an interest in the topic since I don't have any kids and all. I think I just have a soft spot for kids and hate people that take advantage of their natural naivety to push agendas.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

It's well worth the read. And if you want to get the cliffs notes of it (Imp forgive me) she has plenty of interviews on various good podcasts on youtube and elsewhere up from when she was advertising the book.

I really have no idea why I have such an interest in the topic since I don't have any kids and all. I think I just have a soft spot for kids and hate people that take advantage of their natural naivety to push agendas.

For me, it's seeing the disproportionate link between autists and transgenderism and seeing (former) friends of mine who were on the spectrum fall into the cult in the mid-10 before we really knew anything about what's going on. I personally saw it wreck those peoples' lives (one even had a wife and kid. The wife ended up "discovering" she was trans too by the by and they divorced after both went trans). Haven't heard from any of them for years.

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– throwawayaccount2037 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I may check that book out. I really have no idea why I have such an interest in the topic since I don't have any kids and all.

It's genetically instinctual -- a survival mechanism to maintain humanity's existence.

It's an instant response mechanism from adults to want to protect kids because kids are the gateway to the next generation. If you recognize that a child is in danger (due to innocence and the future they hold), an adult will instinctively want to protect the child until they can protect themselves, even if it isn't their kid.

Plus, you were a vulnerable kid yourself, so your pattern recognition has already been established for potential harms/threats, just as you noted.

If a child has their survival instincts inhibited and their pattern recognition for danger thwarted by groomers, then your own paternal nature kicks in (even if you don't have kids or maybe, consciously don't want them). Biologically you have an innate drive to want to protect the next generation for whom you see as being threatened by predators (we see it happen in the animal kingdom all the time).

It's how humanity has persisted so long, even in the face of evil's overwhelming odds to destroy it.

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– cccpneveragain 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah I think the "vulnerable kid yourself" part in particular. I was very much that around these same ages. Then on top of that I've always been really good with kids in the 10-15 age group and there's a ton of those in my extended family right now. So I think that's part of it, if one of them gets sucked in by a tranny groomer, I would be pissed.

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