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Meanwhile in the country soon to be formerly known as New Zealand, a new dark age intensifies as they "decolonize science" (twitter.com)
posted 4 years ago by SupremeReader 4 years ago by SupremeReader +62 / -0
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– Ahaus667 30 points 4 years ago +30 / -0

Should anyone be surprised? They treat “science” as a religion, so why not teach other mythology along with theirs?

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– Assassin47 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

We need a Separation of Science and State.

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– iDontShift 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

we need separation of observation and action

doesn't make sense, it is nonsense

spirit leads, the mind follows or hell ensues

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– TentElephant 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

The Dark Age is a leftist myth to denigrate Christianity while elevating the enlightenment, which ultimately brought us scientism and trannies. There was a proto-industrial revolution during the middle ages with the propagation of waterwheels in manufacturing.

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– SupremeReader [S] 24 points 4 years ago +24 / -0

The cultural, scientific, economic, social, political collapse of the early medieval period (in the wake of Germanic conquest of the Roman Empire, not merely Christianity as you suggest) at least is undeniable. Varier depending on region, with places like Britain hit worse than the others, so much we don't even have almost any written sources from this period. In other places the forest people civilized themselves by bastardizing Roman culture but didn't do much more than live in a ruin of it, except in Italy where it didn't go near as bad and which is why also the Renaissance began there much earlier than elsewhere. A lot is being said about Irish monks rescuing civilization by copying Ancient books, but Ireland wasn't hit by the Germanics until the Viking Age.

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– TentElephant 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

That's all true, but the specific term "dark age" is still a subversive term used to denigrate Christian Europe as a whole. The Italian Renaissance also owes a lot to fall of Constantinople which resulted in a lot of high culture relocating to the Italian city-states.

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– SupremeReader [S] 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

I guess you may 'blame' a contemporary British chronicle that began with "Days as dark as night", ironically written by probably a cleric.

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– Wizardslayer 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

In certain areas such as agriculture there was more advancement in the dark ages than in five previous centuries of roman rule. The whole dark age motif is very much taken from the age of enlightenment and their love affair with everything ancient roman and greek.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

In certain areas such as agriculture there was more advancement in the dark ages than in five previous centuries of roman rule.

That's likely because the end of the roman warm period (which roughly coincided with the end of the western roman empire) basically forced Europe to get good at farming, or die.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

And of course we have the Byzantine Empire Eastern Roman Empire Roman Empire, which managed to keep on trucking and remain a cultural and intellectual jewel of Europe and the Mediterranean for centuries after. Too bad the Fourth Crusade fucked its shit up for good

Either way, yeah the light of knowledge dimmed in the 400s but it wasn't completely snuffed out.

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– deleted 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0
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– Caesah 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

May as well, maybe they can decide that the elder gods are appeased with the current blood sacrifice and therefore can end the lockdowns.

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– SupremeReader [S] 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Now in NZ the Government is trying to insert something called ‘Matauranga’ into science courses. Matauranga means the knowledge system of the Maori. It includes reference to various gods e.g., Tane the god of the forest is said to be the creator of humans, and of all plants and creatures of the forest. Rain happens when the goddess Papatuanuku sheds tears. Maori try to claim that they have always been scientists. Their political demand is that Matauranga must be acknowledged as the equal of western (pakeha) science; that without this, Maori children will continue to fail in science at school.

One rationalisation for this is that they are the indigenous people of New Zealand and that their knowledge deserves respect (mana). It is a very messy situation and a group of science academics of various stripes are engaged in fighting a rearguard action against this. They wrote a letter to the Listener, a weekly publication of reasonable respectability, in which they made the claim that matauranga was not science and had no place in science courses. The kickback against this was astonishing, with some 2000 academics around NZ signing a petition condemning them.

We, the signatories to this response, categorically disagree with their views. Indigenous knowledges – in this case, Mātauranga – are not lesser to other knowledge systems. Indeed, indigenous ways of knowing, including Mātauranga, have always included methodologies that overlap with “Western” understandings of the scientific method. However, Mātauranga is far more than just equivalent to or equal to “Western” science. It offers ways of viewing the world that are unique and complementary to other knowledge systems.

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– deleted 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0
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– ghostfox1_ 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, and it's still just as retarded.

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– Knife-TotingRat 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

OMFG, the new Creationists indeed, and they're not even aware that they're no different than Pat Robertson.

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– dnile1000bc 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

The real WTF is how surprised everyone is at this. The feminist denigration of men of science inevitably introduced "other ways of knowing" that is more inclusive of feminine intuitive knowledge. Hence you have the intrusion of feminist biology, feminist glaciology etc.

Once you have corrupted the scientific method with emotive, feminist crap, it's only a matter of time before other intersectional aspect crept in. I mean the HAES movement has been gaining traction for years.

Creationists take note. This is how you get your religion to be taught as scientific fact.

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– Eltrion 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Soon science will be able to explain how the shaman calls lightning down from the sky

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– JuanTitor 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Turns out, the Earth really might be carried on the back of a sea turtle. Experts have said it, that settles it!

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– Steampunk_Moustache 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

"Indigenous ways of knowing" is a phrase that has been floating around for about a decade now, and it basically boils down to insisting that the mountain god and the lightning god belong the science classroom.

On the surface, It's creationism for brown people.

...But what it actually is, is just another attempt to find well-paying jobs for fat brown 80 i.q. marxist women, and another avenue to insert 'white man bad' into another stack of textbooks.

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– censorthisss 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The University has deep respect for mātauranga Māori as a distinctive and valuable knowledge system. We believe that mātauranga Māori and Western empirical science are not at odds and do not need to compete. They are complementary and have much to learn from each other.

This is like saying Albert Einstein and a retarded 3 year old have much to learn from each other.

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– Sgt_Thundercok 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That post made my brain hurt. Not a good way to sell your shit.

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– Hing 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

And when they're not decolonizing science, they're locking aboriginals up in concentration camps and forcibly injecting them with experimental substances.

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– SupremeReader [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It's in Austr(al)ia.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

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